‘Say: If the ocean were ink wherewith to write out the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted, even if We added another ocean like it.’~Al Qu'raan (18:109)
^ I think so, because as far as I'm aware Arab Christians use "Allah" as well.
‘Say: If the ocean were ink wherewith to write out the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted, even if We added another ocean like it.’~Al Qu'raan (18:109)
My computer is mute, I can't hear how they say that word.
Is it like Arab Muslim say 'Allah' or like non-muslim when they say 'Allah' ?.
Actualy, there is a word for God in Malaysian/Indonesian language that oftenly used by non-muslim. That word is 'Tuhan' (read : too'haan).
I think it's simple. If 'Allah' is the general word in the Malaysian language for 'God', then why shouldn't Christians use it?
If it is not the generally used word for 'God', then it is a different matter ...
i would agree, it seems close to what many christians do in leicester with their leaflets and talks aimed at muslims.
me personally i would just do a dawah stall outside their church every day, explaining the falsehood and idolitry of their beliefs and call them to follow Allah as he wants to be worshipped not through all these intermediaries and saints.
i dont know glo, but it certainly isnt in england where we have the same problem.
This may be a different scenario, because here I am in an Islamic forum ... but on occasions I refer to God as 'Allah', meaning the same one God which you Muslims worship.
Does it cause offence or concern when I speak about Allah in that context?
Peace glo
Here I stand.
I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
Come, let us worship and bow down •
and kneel before the Lord our Maker
[Psalm 95]
This may be a different scenario, because here I am in an Islamic forum ... but on occasions I refer to God as 'Allah', meaning the same one God which you Muslims worship.
Does it cause offence or concern when I speak about Allah in that context?
not from you,
but when you get christian missionaries in leicester city centre calling people to worship Allah and meaning jesus, with their leaflets being the same then it is obvious what their game is.
It's rather silly tbh, we all pray to the same God then why Muslims in Malaysia want to monopolize the word? Whenever I see hope for future of Islam, I see Malaysia, this is a step backwards, but then this perhaps a small minority of Malaysians.
What I fear most for my people are the hypocrites, who talk wisely, yet act unjustly.
~ The Prophet Muhammad, as reported by Umar bin al-Khattab ~
It's rather silly tbh, we all pray to the same God then why Muslims in Malaysia want to monopolize the word? Whenever I see hope for future of Islam, I see Malaysia, this is a step backwards, but then this perhaps a small minority of Malaysians.
yeah but that is the point, we dont all worship the same God, other religions have false gods and they think the same about Allah also.
yeah but that is the point, we dont all worship the same God, other religions have false gods and they think the same about Allah also.
Right. The way I see it is that no matter what religion claims to worship God, in the end as Muslims we know that they are praying to Allah the one and only. You see Christians claim Jesus as God and so on but in the end no matter how complex their belief is, they are still worshipping the same God as we do.
I don't know if my point went across or not but to make things simpler let me link my thread about a Jew who says that Allah is the same God as the God of the Jews. Arab Jew Explains...
What I fear most for my people are the hypocrites, who talk wisely, yet act unjustly.
~ The Prophet Muhammad, as reported by Umar bin al-Khattab ~
I think it is not wrong for people to use the word Allah. Anyone can use the word Allah. Even pagan arabs use to worship the supreme God Allah. What is wrong is that people tell you , come on you can worship Allah in the church too. That is wrong. I think people can say whatever they want and it is very nice to hear other people say Allah too.
Although I don't know if it should be propagated that way or not, personal usage is one thing, propagating one religion as praying to Allah is another thing ( if it is not true) as said in the video, some muslims may misunderstand that.
But then, do they pray to Allah or do they pray to another God and only use the WORD Allah?
The priest said he only uses the WORD Allah, hence he is not really praying to Allah, the one God, in which case it is wrong. He should not give the name of Allah to his "other" god. but if he prays to Allah and calls Him Allah then he shouldn't be banned.
or so I think...
Right. The way I see it is that no matter what religion claims to worship God, in the end as Muslims we know that they are praying to Allah the one and only. You see Christians claim Jesus as God and so on but in the end no matter how complex their belief is, they are still worshipping the same God as we do.
I don't know if my point went across or not but to make things simpler let me link my thread about a Jew who says that Allah is the same God as the God of the Jews. Arab Jew Explains...
when discussing this with others i start by saying,
lets agree there is only one worthy of worship, ok the hindus and sikhs arent going to agree with this but the christians and jews will at least.
let us agree there is only one creator, who made us and guides creation.
now the difference is that the christian and jewish concept of who that creator and one worthy of worship is differs from ours.
so the jews say Allah's hand is tied up, that one of their prophets wrestled and beat Allah, the christians say Allah is not one but three beings in one.
so my creator, the one i worship is not the same one the christians and jews worship, their's are false concepts and so they associate partners with Allah.
when discussing this with others i start by saying,
lets agree there is only one worthy of worship, ok the hindus and sikhs arent going to agree with this but the christians and jews will at least.
let us agree there is only one creator, who made us and guides creation.
now the difference is that the christian and jewish concept of who that creator and one worthy of worship is differs from ours.
so the jews say Allah's hand is tied up, that one of their prophets wrestled and beat Allah, the christians say Allah is not one but three beings in one.
so my creator, the one i worship is not the same one the christians and jews worship, their's are false concepts and so they associate partners with Allah.
Right on I agree. In concept we are not but in belief we are so they can also call God Allah if they want as per belief.
What I fear most for my people are the hypocrites, who talk wisely, yet act unjustly.
~ The Prophet Muhammad, as reported by Umar bin al-Khattab ~
when discussing this with others i start by saying,
lets agree there is only one worthy of worship, ok the hindus and sikhs arent going to agree with this but the christians and jews will at least.
let us agree there is only one creator, who made us and guides creation.
now the difference is that the christian and jewish concept of who that creator and one worthy of worship is differs from ours.
so the jews say Allah's hand is tied up, that one of their prophets wrestled and beat Allah, the christians say Allah is not one but three beings in one.
so my creator, the one i worship is not the same one the christians and jews worship, their's are false concepts and so they associate partners with Allah.
I agree with brother Dawud on this one.
ALLAH(swt) is NOT Jesus(pbuh).
ALLAH is almighty unlike when the Jews said "He rested on the seventh day", the Qur'an said "walaqad khalaqna al samawat wal arda wa baynahuma fe settati ayyam wa massana men loghoob" to correct their false understanding.
so my creator, the one i worship is not the same one the christians and jews worship, their's are false concepts and so they associate partners with Allah.
The concepts may be different. You may even argue that our concepts are wrong ... but the one God, creator of heaven and earth and everything is it is still the same!
How we choose to understand and worship God doesn't alter HIM at all.
He always has been and always will be God Almighty.
Peace glo
Here I stand.
I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
Come, let us worship and bow down •
and kneel before the Lord our Maker
[Psalm 95]
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