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    Dear brothers and sisters
    i need some guidance
    i like this girl who also likes me and who said she wants to get married to me
    i agree with it, because it is the most halal thing to do
    she already told her mum about it, but i am still waiting a while, because today i got fone calls and threatening text messages from her brother, who is telling me 2 leave her alone and not get in contact with her
    i mean, what am i supposed 2 do?
    the guy doesn't even know me, and yet he is making prejudice on me
    In 1 of his texts he is saying: "I swear by allah if u get near my sister or are in contact with her i will slush ur throat. ur kafar and mortad for ur action"
    so now i'm in a dilemma
    help me pls

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    Re: Problem concerning engagement



    My dear brother... first and foremost, place your trust in Allah SWT... Seek refuge in Him and ask for His protection and guidance.

    It's a beautiful thing you are wanting to do... sticking with a halal approach May Allah SWT reward you for this effort and help you on your journey...

    More than likely, this brother's threats on you are all-talk, so do not take them to heart. If you are certain that you are on the right path and following the orders of Allah SWT and the prescribed methods of approaching potential spouses as instructed by the Prophet Mohammed SAW, then fear nothing and no-one but Allah SWT and He alone.

    Before you get too into this, I advise you to avoid any and all contact with this sister directly. Be careful of the shaytan and seek refuge in Allah SWT from him. I recommend you talk with your parents and take the appropriate route... let your mother or father contact this girl's parents and initiate a proper contact with her family. If your parents are not an option for this, then allow another elder person in your family to do it for you. If this option is not available to you, then speak with an Imam of a local mosque and let him approach them on your behalf.

    At the end of the day, fear nothing and no one but Allah SWT and do your best to follow the Sunnah of the Prophet SAW.

    May Allah SWT give you guidance and peace.

    Forgive me if there is anything I have said that was misunderstood or innacurate in any way. And Allah knows best.

    Last edited by brother_rk; 12-04-2007 at 10:12 AM. Reason: Added something...
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    Re: Problem concerning engagement

    Assalamualaikum,

    I think what the brother has said is right. Many people get into such types of troubles because they have gone wrongly through the process of seeking and asking for a potential spouse. It is natural that her brother will tend to be hostile towards you. That's why as said above, you need to keep away (Satanic traps abound).

    Maybe one first step will be to perform Salat-ul-Istikhaarah if you haven't done it yet. Then choose one of the means above. Insha Allaah you will find a way out.

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    Perform Istikharah brother, to see whether she is right for you.

    http://www.islamicboard.com/advice-s...-guidance.html
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    i have done istikhara already, and now i'm putting my trust in allah inshallah
    but new news have arrived that her brother has broken her fone, and not only that, her mother has also turned against her and is now on her sons side
    now that is even worse
    but not only that, he also beat her up yesterday, to 'teach her a lesson'
    wallah i'm confused, even though i should put my trust in allah, and he is the only one who knows what is best
    inshallah he will guide me
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    Re: Problem concerning engagement

    format_quote Originally Posted by teen-omar View Post

    i have done istikhara already, and now i'm putting my trust in allah inshallah
    but new news have arrived that her brother has broken her fone, and not only that, her mother has also turned against her and is now on her sons side
    now that is even worse
    but not only that, he also beat her up yesterday, to 'teach her a lesson'
    wallah i'm confused, even though i should put my trust in allah, and he is the only one who knows what is best
    inshallah he will guide me
    assalaamu alaykum omar,

    by the sounds of things you have gone about things the right way, approaching for marriage but the thing where you seem to have gone wrong is not approaching her wali first.

    my advice would be to get an elder such as an imam onside to go talk to her family and try to get them to see some sense and that allowing things to proceed in a halal way will be best.

    subhanallah, no wonder the youth of this ummah turn to zina when this is the reaction of others when they do things in the right manner.

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    Brother have u notcied an outcome of the Istikharah yet? E.g. A dream/strong feelings, etc.?
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    Re: Problem concerning engagement

    :s:
    No i haven't noticed any outcome yet
    it jus gets harder n harder 2 cope wid
    maybe that is one of the signs...
    Allahu A'Lam
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    Re: Problem concerning engagement



    How many days have you done the Istikharah? It's supposed to be between 3-7 days...
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    Re: Problem concerning engagement

    well i have done istikhara the last 2 days since we started the discussion
    ok inshallah i will be waiting more
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    Just adding in: 3-7 days continuously......
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    Re: Problem concerning engagement

    wat u mean wid continuesly????
    u mean do it at least once a day???
    or more often?
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    You do it once a day, but for 3-7 days continuously, e.g. You don't miss a day out.
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    inshallah i will do it
    i have done it the past 2 days after fajr, and will inshallah continue to do so
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    Re: Problem concerning engagement

    Salamualikum.

    These kinda things happen, Love breaks apart when another person gets involved out of blue and you be utterly confused and lost. Don't worry that dude needs to go through me first before he slushe's your throat or whatever he said in text!... He needs to think twice about himself rather giving beef to other people!

    Don't be afraid this is ALL TALK... No action but talk!.. maybe you should tell your parents aswel init and then take your parents down to the gyal's yard and talk to her parents about this 'marriage' thingy bob and then if they agree safe if not then spank it.. You might love her or like her but if her bro and her mom getting in way then just forget her man. Say ya farewell to her and wait until Allaah gaves u a pious wife insha'Allaah.

    Don't mess ya life up with cwap love cuz it killz a lot at end and u will regret it!
    Just relax with life and have faith in Allaah and don't give up worshipping Allaah.

    DO NOT BE SCARED AND CHEER UP AND GET ON WIV YA LIFE, THIS KINDA LOVE IS BULLSHOOT AND FULL OF WASTE MAN!

    Just focus in deen and get on wiv studies or whatever ya doing insha'Allaah. Repent to Allaah before it's too late and forget it man, not worth it.
    If the gyal aint allowed to chat to you and getting beaten up and what not then leave it init cuz she's getting in trouble and ur getting ALL-TALK texts which is just sad, he aint got no life man..

    JUST PACK IT IN AND LEAVE IT BRO..

    If u aint going to listen a mi u will regret it lata. Idk...

    May Allaah guide u and gave u a pious wife Amin

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    Love before marriage is indeed a waste of time.
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    Re: Problem concerning engagement

    format_quote Originally Posted by Muj4h1d4 View Post


    Love before marriage is indeed a waste of time.
    Salamualikum.

    Indeed it is and breaks up quick aswel!!!!

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    It is better to preserve the honour of oneself, and to only fall in love after marriage Inshaa Allaah.
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    @Muj4h1d4 wat u mean wid fall in love after marriage??
    arent u supposed to love the person b4 u get married, because what would then be the point in getting married if they ain't in love??
    ok so u lot think i shud jus leave it n get on wid ma studies until Allah guides me to the right wife??
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    ^^ Yeh Inshaa Allaah.

    arent u supposed to love the person b4 u get married, because what would then be the point in getting married if they ain't in love??
    How do u fall in love? When u get to know the opposite gender, talk to them, have a one to one convo. That isn't allowed in Islaam.
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