Live8

[minaz]

Hey everyone sign up to the live8list! Show your support in putting an end to poverty!
http://www.live8live.com

[Mr. Baldy]

aslaam alykum,

im sorry, but how is a bunch of people dancing and singing gonna end poverty. this just seems to me another oppurtunity for kafir to do haram with an 'excuse'. ok they might make a few million pounds, but africa is not just in economic crisis it is in a social and political crisis, giving money is not going to make thesse problems go away, its just gonna make kaffir sleep easy. the only system that can get rid of poverty is islam, these kafir just keep on exploiting the poor african people, yeah tony bLiar might cancel third world debt, but he'll just find a new way to exploit the african population.

wa alykum aslaam

[minaz]

Go to the website and read what it says, by the way they aren't asking for money just human support

[S_87]

bunch of junk

we shouldnt support their method..if only we as an ummah were united, to show them the REAL way :'(

Allah SWT gave us zakah as a pillar and sadaqah as a means of giving money, and also gaining reward.
we dont need half naked singers *raising awareness*


just my op anyway

[minaz]

Valid opinion, and you're right in that "if only we as an ummah were united" - we are not. Live8 is not just about the music which is just a part of raising the awareness, live8 is part of the Make Poverty History campaign. It's not all about "naked singers" (lol it would be illegal if they were naked!). It's uniting all types of people and groups in its cause including Islamic Relief, who infact were very active yesterday in distributing much material including posters, leaflets etc.
http://www.islamic-relief.com/

[Genius]

aslaam alykum,

im sorry, but how is a bunch of people dancing and singing gonna end poverty. this just seems to me another oppurtunity for kafir to do haram with an 'excuse'. ok they might make a few million pounds, but africa is not just in economic crisis it is in a social and political crisis, giving money is not going to make thesse problems go away, its just gonna make kaffir sleep easy. the only system that can get rid of poverty is islam, these kafir just keep on exploiting the poor african people, yeah tony bLiar might cancel third world debt, but he'll just find a new way to exploit the african population.

wa alykum aslaam

You obviously have a very good understanding of how the world works and should be made President of the Universe.

[Mr. Baldy]

aslaam alykum,

so whats your soloution 'genius', would you rather have the islamic system or bow down to the currnet kuffar system?

wa alykum aslaam

[Genius]

aslaam alykum,

so whats your soloution 'genius', would you rather have the islamic system or bow down to the currnet kuffar system?

wa alykum aslaam

My soloution (sic) is to end poverty, the rest of your question is rather irrelevent and has nothing to do with the topic.

ws

[Mr. Baldy]

aslaam alykum,

it has everything to with the question, please can you explain the way the kuffar want to abolish poverty?

wa alykum aslaam

[minaz]

Mr Baldy how would YOU get rid of poverty? Or should I really ask how you are helping to get rid of it?

[Genius]

aslaam alykum,

it has everything to with the question, please can you explain the way the kuffar want to abolish poverty?

wa alykum aslaam

If i explained you probably wouldn't change your view, so what's the point in wasting both our time.

And the 'kuffar' are not a monolithic bloc, but again thats a concept you'd probably struggle with.

[Mr. Baldy]

aslaam alykum,

in reply to minaz.
i am working for islam.

wa alykum aslaam

[minaz]

these kafir just keep on exploiting the poor african people,

I wouldn't say that's working for Islam mate

[Mr. Baldy]

If i explained you probably wouldn't change your view, so what's the point in wasting both our time.

And the 'kuffar' are not a monolithic bloc, but again thats a concept you'd probably struggle with.

im sorry but all i have to say is that there is the islamic way, and then there is haram.

wa alykum aslaam

[Genius]

aslaam alykum,

i am working for islam.

wa alykum aslaam

And what a job you're doing, you've won a special star



Print it out and stick it on your chest, make sure an adult supervises you.

[Mr. Baldy]

I wouldn't say that's working for Islam mate

what do u meen??

[Mr. Baldy]

im sorry, but whats your soloution?

or dont you have one?

[minaz]

Mr. Baldy, saying things like what you stated

these kafir just keep on exploiting the poor african people,

Is not the way in working for Islam, it gives out the message as Genius pointed out of the mentality of monolithics. Instead of working for islam saying such things are working for the real Kafir.

[S_87]

trying to raise awareness of something with baatil is good? or bad?

al-Tirmidhi (2212) narrated from ‘Imraan ibn Husayn that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Among this ummah, people will be transformed into monkeys and pigs, swallowed up in the earth, and pelted with stones.” A man among the Muslims said, “O Messenger of Allaah, when will that be?” He said, “When singing-girls and musical instruments become widespread and wine is drunk.” (Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 1802).

[Mr. Baldy]

Mr. Baldy, saying things like what you stated
Is not the way in working for Islam, it gives out the message as Genius pointed out of the mentality of monolithics. Instead of working for islam saying such things are working for the real Kafir.

so wait, saying kaffir are bad, is helping there image, how does that work?