:eek: subhanallah that is sooo cruel!
Punishment for not memorising Quran: Death
A sickening story showing the state of some village mullahs. What deen is this they practise and preach???
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BBC News
Friday 30th May 2008
Pakistani boy 'killed by teacher'
A student of a religious seminary in Pakistan's Punjab province has died after he was punished by his teacher, police say.
Atif, seven, was hung upside down from a ceiling fan by Maulvi Ziauddin for not memorising his Koran lessons, his fellow students told the police.
Atif's condition deteriorated quickly and he died in the teacher's room. Maulvi Ziauddin has been arrested.
Human rights organisation say Pakistani children are often exposed to abuse.
The students told the police in the town of Vehari that Atif was punished on Wednesday by Maulvi Ziauddin who left him hanging from the fan for some time.
The son of a farm labourer, Atif lived in the seminary with about 20 other students, including a cousin.
"When his cousin did not see Atif on Wednesday night or the next morning, he informed the family," a Vehari police official, Mohammad Afzal, told the BBC.
"Members of the family found Atif's body in Maulvi Ziauddin's room, but the cleric himself was missing," he said.
He was arrested from a nearby village later on Thursday.
The police said they would file formal charges after an autopsy report is issued by the local hospital.
In a report published in January, Lawyers for Human Rights and Legal Aid (LHRLA) - an organisation which monitors and compiles cases of child abuse and kidnapping - said children in Pakistan were increasingly exposed to abuse, kidnapping and violence.
The number of reported cases involving children has more than doubled from 617 in 2006 to 1,595 last year, the report said.
It blamed poor law enforcement and old social attitudes towards children's rights as some of the reasons for the problem.
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:eek: subhanallah that is sooo cruel!
yh come on , it cna't be just pakis doing things like this,
but yh its sick and really sad, tut tut
since when did it become compulsary to memorise the quran? and at the age of seven!
Yeah its truly Sad, What the Hell is wrong with these People killing children Nowadays and then Calling them self Muslim
Don't you think that may offend some people? It's not all 'pakis' as you'd put it. I dont think the teacher meanto kil the kid, though I am pretty pissed off he did, well if he did.
Last edited by Intisar; 05-30-2008 at 10:04 PM. Reason: reply to a deleted post.
That's Repulsive! Reminded me of this quote!
"With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion."
Sorry i didnt mean all paki's i meant the paki's that do this. theres even some that burned robbers alive for stealing!! OMG
But wonder why is the BBC only after such sought of news.
wow...how cruel, Is this the method he come up with to teach the kid
is he even a real muslim......................really what is that deen that he is practice?
That's just stupid. Especially seeing as how what he did wasn't even allowed by the religion. Honestly, the idiotic statements people make these days.format_quote Originally Posted by Athée
Anyway, the poor child, it is absolutely tragic!
It's really important to be patient with children
source (http://www.islamnewsroom.com/content/view/395/52/)The Story of Man and His Truck PDF Print E-mail
Written by Sister Zabrina
Sunday, 02 December 2007
The Story of A Man and His Truck
My mobile rang late that evening. ‘As Salaamu ‘alaykum’ I answered as I picked up the phone. The next thing I heard was a sobbing sound on the other line. I immediately recognized that voice.
A dear friend was in tears after being yelled by her boss over some administrative mistakes which she admitted done accidentally. She knew that she was wrong and deserved to be corrected. As a professional, she could admit and accept her wrongs gracefully, and had no qualms correcting them. However, according to her, that was not why she was crying.
What hurt her was more of the way it was handled. The yelling and shouting by the boss, plus the throwing of the document file towards her direction. That was what shattered her that day. And who could blame her? Anyone would be shaken if treated in such a way. I know I would. Calming her down took some time but the pep talk to build up her self esteem and motivation again took longer, much longer.
As I sat there, thinking sadly of my friend’s experience that day, I could not help but to ponder on why some people took pleasure in being harsh when getting their points across. Why people choose aggressiveness over a simple advice?
Did they enjoy watching the other person squirm? What was in their mind during the yelling and shouting? Is the mistake worthy of the humiliation they received? Would they, themselves, accept being embarrassed and disgraced that way? Couldn’t a simple discussion, done in a civilized manner do the job for them? Couldn’t the advice be given privately instead of making sure that his voice was heard through the four walls of his office?
It was a heartbreaking moment for me when I was reminded of my Lord’s attribute…
'A'isha reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Allah is kind and loves kindness and gives for gentleness what he does not give for harshness nor for anything else." [Muslim]
Subhanallaah. Allaah is kind and gentle. Allaah, the AlMighty, the Creator and Owner of everything and everyone between the heaven and the earth, is kind and gentle. Who are we? The one who do not even own the cloth we wear, the eyes we use, the air we breathe, the smile we show, the eyelid we batter, the teeth we chew with, the water we drink. Who are we to act in such harsh manner as if we are the perfect one? As if we are the one who has never done and would never do any mistake? As if we are so great? Astaghfirullaah. My heart beats sadly for my friend…
I remembered a hadeeth of my Prophet (SAW) who said that…
Narrated Jarir: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: He who is deprived of gentleness is deprived of good. (Sunan Abudawud Book #41, Hadith #4791)
Ya Allaah, that is so scary. A person who is deprived of gentleness is deprived of good? Who in their right mind would want to be deprived of good, right?
I want to understand this better. Let me think, what does good mean here? Good if defined by the dictionary would mean high-quality, first class, first rate, superior, fine, excellent. Wow, this is really something. So, a harsh person would be deprived of excellent in his dealings?
I need to put it into a context here so that I can understand this better. Say, I am boarding on a plane and facing a problem with my seating. I have two ways to deal with this matter, right? One is to get angry and show my anger, and second is to stay calm and deal with the airline in a gentle and peaceful manner. Which behavior would give me superiority? If you are the person who is handling me, would you like me better if I am calm or if I am angry? That is one question.
Then, say, there is another person with similar problem as me. And he is angry and cursing, while I am calm and smiling. Then, you as the airline rep found 2 seats; one is the first class seat, while the other is at the economy class. Let us all honestly ask ourselves, who would we rather bumped into at the first class? Hmm…
He who is deprived of gentleness is deprived of good.. I got it now, alhamdulillaah…
I remembered reading the Quranic verse which has become one of my compasses in dealing with others
“And speak to him [i.e., Pharaoh] with gentle speech that perhaps he may be reminded or fear [Allaah].”” [Quran 20: 44]
Ya Allaah, when I first read this ayah, it surprised me.
What did Allaah tell us to do? Even to Pharaoh, we are asked to speak gently. You know Pharaoh? Yes, the Pharaoh who chased after our Prophet Moses (AS), who had wronged his people, killed babies. Yes, that one. And how should we conduct ourselves with him? With gentle speech! Can you believe that? Even to a person with such history like Pharaoh,we are asked to deal with gentle speech. Subhanallaah…
And why was the reason given? So that perhaps (no guarantee because it was still Pharoah’s choice), he could be reminded of Allaah through our gentle speech. Subhanallaah. What did that tell us? A person regardless of his current behaviour and action is entitled to be addressed gently. Allaah…
Maybe my friend’s boss should be reminded of this ayah. Maybe he should ask himself, was my friend worse than Pharaoh, because even Pharaoh who denied Allaah and His Prophet was asked by Allaah to be handled gently! Surely, my friend is nothing close to Pharaoh, right?
I reminded myself of this quote I read somewhere before…
Extract The Honey, But Do Not Break The Hive....
How true this quote is. To get to the honey, we should not break the beehive. Instead, we should carefully, systematically and gently approach the hive. Failure to do so would result in us getting bee stings all over, qualify us for a hospital admission and if severe, we might even land ourselves into the a new home 6 feet under! I knew it seems a little bit far fetched here, but these things do happen.
Let me share with you a story I read sometime ago about a man and his son…
A man came out of his home to admire his new truck. To his puzzlement, his three-year-old son was happily hammering dents into the shiny paint.
The man ran to his son, knocked him away, hammered the little boy's hands into a pulp as punishment. When the father calmed down, he rushed his son to the hospital.
Although the doctor tried desperately to save the crushed bones, he finally had to amputate the fingers from both the boy's hands. When the boy woke up from the surgery & saw his bandaged stubs, he innocently said, "Daddy, I'm sorry about your truck." Then he asked, "but when are my fingers going to grow back?"
Astaghfirullaah. When are my fingers growing back? I could not imagine the regret this father must have in his heart. Could you even imagine it? Was the satisfaction worth the pain after? Was the action during rage by the father justified? Could the finger ever grow back? How could the father answer his son?
As I sat there thinking of my friend and this poor boy, I asked myself this question. Have I ever hammered someone else’s fingers? If yes, why did I do it? If yes, whose fingers were they? Why do I have to get that hammer and hurt those fingers? What if their fingers were beyond repair and had to be amputated? Was it a finger or a few fingers? Astaghfirullaah…
I felt a heavy feeling in my heart and I pray to Allaah to forgive me if I have done something unthinkable as such. And to all my friends out there, forgive me if I have hammered your fingers. Please find somewhere in your heart to forgive me whenever you looked at your amputated your fingers, if any…
What about you my friends? Have you ever hammered anyone’s finger simply because you could not control your temper? Just to satisfy your anger? Think about it. Think hard because always, the doer forgets but the receiver does not. Just imagine that your fingers are amputated.. How would you feel? Do you want to make others feel that way too?
In the end, whenever you feel like showing your anger, remember this – pharaoh and finger. Yes, my friends. Pharaoh and fingers. May we all take heed. Ameen…
asalam alaikum wr wb,
Ya Allah that poor kid and his family
I can only speak of pakistan because I'm 3/4 pakistani, and I know that there is too much abuse of children going on in madrasas there. Believe it or not it is happening in pakistani madrasas in the UK too, although not to that extent. My nephew then 8-9 was hit so hard with a wooden batton that his elbow swelled up - because he went to the toilet during a lesson! My friend's daughter told us her molvi use to pinch the girls making them cry if they didn't learn their sabak properly - not to mention my little bro getting punched in the back by his molvi! Sexual abuse is also rife, yet well covered secret. Every government, of every country should put safe-guarding polices in place and enforce them strictly. Children need to be protected.
wa alaikum asalam wr wb.
Sis Transistion , jazaikhair for the article- its a real reminder.
Can you elaborate a bit, on what you meant?format_quote Originally Posted by Asma Shaikh
Wa alaykum salam,format_quote Originally Posted by Muslimah_Sisasalam alaikum wr wb,
Ya Allah that poor kid and his family
I can only speak of pakistan because I'm 3/4 pakistani, and I know that there is too much abuse of children going on in madrasas there. Believe it or not it is happening in pakistani madrasas in the UK too, although not to that extent. My nephew then 8-9 was hit so hard with a wooden batton that his elbow swelled up - because he went to the toilet during a lesson! My friend's daughter told us her molvi use to pinch the girls making them cry if they didn't learn their sabak properly - not to mention my little bro getting punched in the back by his molvi! Sexual abuse is also rife, yet well covered secret. Every government, of every country should put safe-guarding polices in place and enforce them strictly. Children need to be protected.
Its more the fault of those people who build masjids and then do these things. Think about it, if the Muslims did stand up against this those other Muslims would have noone to hit.
You see families allowing these things, turning a blind eye in the name of tradition and so forth. I mean, why import 'imams' who don't even know the cultural problems and boundries from Asia or whereever I mean that's a major stumbling block in the first place.
You know, I would have thought that if the student wasn't learning, it's because his teacher was lacking in his own ability to instruct. Maybe the next time a child isn't able to learn, they should hang his teacher upside down from a ceiling fan, huh?
But it is interesting as a side note, considering western media has always claimed these people don't believe in schools or education.
The Ninth Scribe
asalam alaikum wr wb,
Of course, you are absolutely right bro Al Habeshi. The families do turn a blind eye to it and even continue sending their children their in the false belief that they are doing it for Islam.
The law cannot depend on families to report abuse, because in the majority of cases it simply won't happen and therefore governments should take responsibility to safeguard these children. It is also up to each of us to raise this issue with our mosques, cuz too many times we only say it's unacceptable yet don't do anything about it. Let's try to practice what we preach inshaAllah.
wa alaikum asalam wr wb.
Wa Alaykum Salam,format_quote Originally Posted by Muslimah_Sis
But how they gonna safe guard children? They'll just take them out of the masjid altogether! I mean non Muslims even are argueing about whether they can slap their child.
It's upto those people in power in the masjid, because I'll tell you this, if I raised any problem, in some masjids, they'd label me this or that, like they do to many others, then go back to their own business.
The parents who do send their children in some cases dont even practice, they send them as a way of 'We went through it, you need to do it', the type to marry their daughters to a guy with a great job and big car who only prayes Jummuah rather than an average guy who is great in his deen. That's the problem, Muslims who claim it, but then do haram stuff like interest, not only on their FIRST house, but their SECOND! Talk about excessive.
That's the problem, these are similar Muslims who attend lectures once in a while, some who even cover. I mean its amazing.
You know, I was thinking the same thing. How it is that school teachers do not need to beat children in order to descipline them? Simple! They use far more effective methods, such as after-school detention, missing playtime etc. The incompetence of some molvis in dealing with children just makes them rebel against authority and Islam. It's about time molvis are made to do a teacher training course before they are allowed near children.=Ninth_Scribe;952610]You know, I would have thought that if the student wasn't learning, it's because his teacher was lacking in his own ability to instruct. Maybe the next time a child isn't able to learn, they should hang his teacher upside down from a ceiling fan, huh?
Peace.
Agreed. Teachers are the main reason a child does or doesn't learn. They used to hide bad teachers (and make money in the process) by declaring the students were "problemed" but cellphone cameras and other recording devices led to a completely different interpretation of the problemformat_quote Originally Posted by Muslimah_Sis
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