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    I had a weird dream the other day, someone proved islam was the true religion by paying anyone $30,000,000 to destroy the Kaaba in Mecca and it couldn't be done, one tried to fire missiles but they somehow they wouldn't fire, then one man had a grenade went to throw it and had a hear attack and seizure then died. Yes I know i sound odd for saying this but the Kaaba be destroyed? (not that i want it to)
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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    The Ka'ba is the House of Allah. Whoever tries to attack it Allah will take care of him, Just like Allah took care of Abraha (Abraha was a ruler who ruled in Yemen who tried to destroy the ka'ba). Abraha owned an army of war elephants, and this was his most prized piece of equipment.

    When Abraha went forward to attack the ka'ba Allah destroyed him and his army by birds who threw stones of baked clay, and then Allah mentioned it in Qur'an in surah al-fil.

    Allah says:

    1. Have you not considered how your Lord dealt with the possessors of the elephant?

    2. Did He not cause their war to end in confusion,

    3. And send against them swarms of flying birds,

    4. Casting against them stones of baked clay,

    5. And made them like green crops devoured (by cattle)?

    [Surah al Fil (The Elephant) 105]

    This event was known as 'The Year of the Elephants'. Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) was born in this year.

    Allah will destroy whoever tries to destroy the ka'ba because no one knows the soldiers of Allah except Allah.
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    And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.”
    [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]


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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    exactly, so if anyone doubts Islam like a christian or jewish government tell them there right if there able to destroy the kaaba if somehow the kaaba cant be destroyed then Islam is proved to the Christians as the true religion because god protects it.
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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    Lets not tempt fate please. It would be a sad day if people tried to attack the Kaaba
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    Yes i agree, just theoretically speaking i wouldn't want anyone dying, if people doubt our religion then tell them there right if they destroy the kaaba and watch Allah work his wonders.
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    Re: sure way to prove islam




    The Ka'bah has been attacked even during the time of the sahabah [Abdullah ibn Zubair was killed in the battle.] Al Hajjaaj shot catapults at it and some of it was destroyed.

    It was even taken down during the time of Allah's Messenger, before his Prophethood by the Quraysh to rebuild it again. The reason for this was because there was a flood and to fix it - they needed to rebuild it again after taking it down gradually first.


    So even if it was harmed today, it wouldn't disprove islam.
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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    You know if somone fired on the Ka'baa your telling me nothing will happen? Allhumdillia sounds 2 good 2 be true
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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    i heard the ka'ba will be destroyed one day


    did i hear wrong?
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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fighting4Iman View Post
    i heard the ka'ba will be destroyed one day


    did i hear wrong?
    yh its supposed to be destroyed by a 'shephard', yes anyone?
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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Number 78 View Post
    Yes i agree, just theoretically speaking i wouldn't want anyone dying, if people doubt our religion then tell them there right if they destroy the kaaba and watch Allah work his wonders.
    I don't think it works that way. If Allah wanted 'ip so facto' proof he could have sent a sign to every generation that nobody could deny, but as stated in the Quran Allah wants people to believe through faith.

    There were few things different with Abraha:
    (1) Nobody provoked him to attack Ka'aba, he was furious over an issue but to attack Ka'aba was not necessary for one incident that took place in Yemen.

    (2) He want to replace Ka'aba with his own place of worship.

    (3) He openly challenged Allah, that if God of Ka'aba is true, then save Ka'aba against his mighty army.
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    It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).

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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    cool dream, your faith must be very strong. Subhan Allah
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    anyone know anything about this sign of qiyamah? ^
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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    yh its supposed to be destroyed by a 'shephard', yes anyone?
    It is supposed to be destory by a blackman before the end of the world.
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    It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).

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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    An Abyssinian leader with thin shins will destroy the Ka’bah. (Sahih Muslim Book 041, Number 6951)

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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine View Post
    An Abyssinian leader with thin shins will destroy the Ka’bah. (Sahih Muslim Book 041, Number 6951)

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    whats the 'thin shins' supposed to mean? literallly as in skinny legs or somthin else?
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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    whats the 'thin shins' supposed to mean? literallly as in skinny legs or somthin else?

    shins:The front part of the human leg between the knee and the ankle

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    an Abyssinian leader ...so that means an Ethiopian leader isnt it
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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    whats the 'thin shins' supposed to mean? literallly as in skinny legs or somthin else?
    I suppose, it means skinny legs.
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    It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).

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    Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem,

    As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullah,

    In a fatwa answering the question "Will the Qur’aan disappear at the end of time?", you can find:

    There will be no prayer, no fasting, no Hajj and no charity (zakaah). Then there will be no point in the Ka’bah being there or in the Qur’aan remaining among mankind, so Allaah will decree that the Ka’bah be destroyed at the hands of a kaafir from Ethiopia

    The Fatwa is here


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    Re: sure way to prove islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Number 78 View Post
    I had a weird dream the other day, someone proved islam was the true religion by paying anyone $30,000,000 to destroy the Kaaba in Mecca and it couldn't be done, one tried to fire missiles but they somehow they wouldn't fire, then one man had a grenade went to throw it and had a hear attack and seizure then died. Yes I know i sound odd for saying this but the Kaaba be destroyed? (not that i want it to)
    I dont want to be rude but may I ask if you pray 5 times a day?This is about the dream.You dont have to answer.
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