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    Salaam u'alaikoem brothers and sisters,

    I heard that woman in Palestine are getting trained to fight in war because there are not so much muslimmans left.
    When I heard this I couldn't believe it. But Allah knows best if this is really happing. May Allah protect them and save them amin.

    I have a question about woman and jihad/war.
    Are woman allowed to fight in war go on jihad against the enemy?
    and fight side by side with the muslimbrothers?
    Go in the army and get trained etc?

    I already asked people, some say yes its allowed and some say no.

    Does anyone know if there is a hadith about this or a aya in the Quran?
    I always thought that the woman need to stay home and take care of the kids, old people, sick people and feed the muslimsoldiers if its war.
    Because if every healty adult goes on jihad who is going to take care of the kids etc?

    Insjallah someone can answer my question and share some hadiths about this issue.

    Barak Allahoe Fiekoem
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    Re: Does anyone know what Allah say about....

    The ruling on jihad for women

    Question:
    This is an import matter about which I am confused. What is the ruling on jihad for women?.


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    Praise be to Allaah.

    Jihad is not obligatory for women. Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    In order for jihad to be obligatory there are seven conditions: being Muslim, being an adult, being of sound mind, being free, being male, being physically sound and being able to afford it financially. With regard to being Muslim, adult and of sound mind, these are essential conditions for all Islamic duties, because a kaafir is not to be trusted in jihad, an insane person cannot go for jihad and a child is physically weak. Ibn ‘Umar said: “I presented myself to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) on the day of Uhud when I was fourteen years old, and he did not let me join the fighting.” Agreed upon. … With regard to being male, this is stipulated because of the report narrated from ‘Aa’ishah who said: “O Messenger of Allaah, do women have to engage in jihad? He said: “Jihad in which there is no fighting: Hajj and ‘Umrah.” And because women are not able to fight because they are (physically) weak.

    From al-Mughni, 9/163.

    The hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) was narrated by Ahmad (25361) and Ibn Maajah (2901); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Ibn Maajah.

    Can a woman go out to help the mujaahideen and treat the wounded?

    Al-Sarkhasi said in Sharh al-Siyar al-Kabeer (1/184): Chapter on women fighting alongside men and being present in war: He said: we do not like women to fight alongside men in war because a woman does not have the right physical make-up for fighting, as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) indicated when he said: “This one was not a fighter” (said when he saw the body of a woman slain on the battlefield). And when a woman fights, the ‘awrah of the Muslims may become exposed and the mushrikeen will rejoice at that, and that may be a cause of the mushrikeen increasing their hopes of defeating the Muslims, and they may think that the Muslims are weak because they had to bring the women to fight, so they will say, ‘They need the help of women to fight us.” So this should be avoided. For this reason it is not recommended for women to participate directly in the fighting. But if the Muslims have no choice and are forced to do that, because repelling the kuffaar when necessary by whatever means the Muslims have at their disposal, is permissible, rather it is obligatory. The story of Hunayn is quoted as evidence for that.

    At the end of this story it says: Umm Sulaym bint Milhaan, who was fighting that day with a cloth tied around her stomach, said: “O Messenger of Allaah, what do you think about these people who ran away from you and let you down? You should not forgive them if Allaah gives you power over them.” He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “O Umm Sulaym, the forgiveness of Allaah is immense.” She repeated that three times, and each time the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The mercy of Allaah is immense.” In al-Maghaazi it is narrated that she said: “O Messenger of Allaah, should we not kill these who ran away (from the battlefield) as we killed the mushrikeen?” He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The forgiveness of Allaah is immense.” What greater need can there be for women to fight than this incident when the men fled and abandoned the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). This clearly shows that there is nothing wrong with women fighting when that is essential, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not prevent this woman from fighting on that occasion. But it is not narrated that he gave the women permission to fight on other occasions. There is nothing wrong with old women being present at times of war to tend the wounded, bring water and cook food for the soldiers if they need that, because of the hadeeth of ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Qarat al-Azdi who said: The womenfolk of Khaalid ibn al-Waleed and the womenfolk of the Sahaabah had their sleeves rolled up, bringing water to the mujaahideen and reciting encouraging poetry, when he was fighting the Byzantines. What is meant here is old women, because young women are not allowed to go out for fear of fitnah, and old women can take care of the needs in such situations. And it was narrated that Umm Mutaa’, who was present at Khaybar with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), said: I saw Aslam (one of the Arab tribes) when they complained to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about the difficulties they were facing, so he recommended that they engage in jihad and they responded. I saw that Aslam were the first ones to reach the fortress and the sun did not set on that day until Allaah had enabled us to conquer it.

    This clearly shows that she went out with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and he did not forbid her to do so. From this we know that there is nothing wrong with an old woman going out to help the mujaahideen by doing tasks that are appropriate for them. And Allaah is the Source of strength. End quote.

    It says in Khishshaaf al-Qinaa’ (3/26): Women are not allowed (to engage in jihad) because they are a source of temptation, as well as not being qualified to fight, because of their natural tendency to be weak and cowardly, and because there is no guarantee that the enemy will not capture them and regard it as permissible to do to them that which Allaah has forbidden. Some of the scholars said: except the wife of the ruler or commander, who may be present to attend to his needs, because of the actions of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), or an old women in cases of need only, such as giving water to the troops and treating the wounded, because al-Rubayyi’ bint Mu’awwidh said: “We used to go out to fight with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), bringing water and serving them, bringing back the wounded and the slain to Madeenah.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari. And a similar report was narrated from Anas by Muslim. That is because men may be distracted from these tasks by fighting, so this is a help to the Muslims and supporting them in their fight.

    All of this has to do with jihad in cases where the enemy has not invaded the Muslim land, in which case jihad becomes obligatory on every able-bodied person, man or woman, and a woman may then go out without her husband’s permission. Al-Kaasaani al-Hanafi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “But at times of general mobilization, such as when the enemy is seeking to invade a Muslim land, then it becomes an individual obligation (fard ‘ayn) on every single Muslim who is able to fight, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “March forth, whether you are light (being healthy, young and wealthy) or heavy (being ill, old and poor)” [al-Tawbah 9:41]

    It was said that this was revealed concerning general mobilization.

    And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “It was not becoming of the people of Al-Madinah and the bedouins of the neighbourhood to remain behind Allaah’s Messenger (Muhammad r when fighting in Allaah’s Cause) and (it was not becoming of them) to prefer their own lives to his life”
    [al-Tawbah 9:120]

    From Badaa’i’ al-Sanaa’i’, 7/98

    It says something similar in al-Sharh al-Sagheer, one of the Maaliki books (2/274): that if the enemy attacks a Muslim land, then jihad becomes an individual obligation for every man and woman.

    In conclusion:

    Jihad is not obligatory for women in principle, except in cases of necessity, such as if the kuffaar attack a Muslim land, in which case jihad becomes obligatory for women, according to their abilities. If a woman is not able to fight then she is not obliged to do so, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Allaah burdens not a person beyond his scope” [al-Baqarah 2:286]

    And Allaah knows best.
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    Re: Does anyone know what Allah say about....

    Asalam Alaykum Warakmatulah Wabarkatuh
    I have one hadeeth/saying to answer your question
    : And for women are rights over men similar to
    those men over women.(2:226)
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    Re: Does anyone know what Allah say about....

    Assalamu alaikum
    one of the sisters in this site posted some ahadeeths and one of them talks about woman in jihad. hopes this help inshallah.

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    Hadith - Bukhari 2:595, Ibn 'Aisha I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shouldn't we participate in Holy battles and Jihad along with you?" He replied, "The best and the most superior Jihad (for women) is Hajj which is accepted by Allah." 'Aisha added: Ever since I heard that from Allah's Apostle I have determined not to miss Hajj.
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    Salaam u'alaikoem brothers and sisters,

    Barak Allahoe fiekoem.

    Woman are not allowed to figth side by side If I understand it correctly.

    Then I think what if the enemy comes to their homes.
    and that every muslim has the right to protect his home?
    If for example a thief enters your house then you have the right to kill him (right?)

    So Then in war it means, if its the enemy then each muslim have the right to do so.
    The wars in this time are not the same as in the time of Mohammad (saaw)

    What I also dont understand is if we muslims are one , we believe in Allah (swt) and his messeger Mohammad (saaw)
    Why is nobody of the muslim countries helping them.
    I always thought that if a muslim needs help that we have to go and help him.
    I'm thinking of the day of judgment if the muslim brothers and sisters of palestine
    will say we asked help from our ummah but nobody reacts to our call.

    dont you all get scared if you think about it.
    Sometimes i read on forum, if the Mahdi comes then I will go and join that army.
    And fight with my muslimbrothers.
    Then I think Wake up.....how do you know that the Mahdi will come in your time?
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    Re: Does anyone know what Allah say about....

    I have a question about woman and jihad/war.
    Are woman allowed to fight in war go on jihad against the enemy?
    and fight side by side with the muslimbrothers?
    Go in the army and get trained etc?
    I know that the Mujahideen from the Caucasus Emirate have women fighters who fight alongside the men, however this is due to extreme circumstances, but in these cases the women have no choice.

    Salam a leikum
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    Re: Does anyone know what Allah say about....

    I heard that woman in Palestine are getting trained to fight in war because there are not so much muslimmans left.
    When I heard this I couldn't believe it. But Allah knows best if this is really happing. May Allah protect them and save them amin.
    there are many muslim men left around the world but they arent there to defend their sisters
    inshaAllah the men of the ummah will wake up soon!
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    Our Lord! Verily, we have heard the call of one calling to Faith: 'Believe in your Lord,' and we have believed.
    Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and expiate from us our evil deeds, and make us die (in the state of righteousness) along with Al-Abrar
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    Re: Does anyone know what Allah say about....

    Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

    Brother 'Abd-al Latif provided the answer, there is no need for us to add our personal opinions and cause confusion.
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    Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

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