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    I am having difficulty comprehending someone being punished for eternity for a limited amout of time, lets say 100 years. If you use math you will find out that any number divided by infinity equals zero. Therefor, mathematically god is punishing humans for their limited life which has a value of 0. I need some help and clarification about this subject.
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    Asalamu Alikum Wr Wb!

    LOL! where did God say to use maths in this?


    It's only a warning that God will punish the disbelievers for eternity. But why not highlight the good points too. That God will reward believers for eternity for only some good deeds done??? Isn't He the most merciful?!
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    God created math and used to create the universe, the Quran it self has math.
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    Look at this in this way.

    The life of the hereafter is for eternity (infinity).

    This, our very life is for a few years, (100 years as you supposed)

    So dividing this life's years with the eternal, infinite life would again give zero.

    So that means we didn't live?

    It's LOL question!
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    But why must it be infinity, why cant it be finite amount of time. We disobeyed god for a finite amount of time so it seems only fair for god to punish us for a finite time.
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    btw, Your Avatar is disturbing.
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hussein radi View Post
    God created math and used to create the universe, the Quran it self has math.
    Oh no! did I offend you in any way brother? I was just trying to help!

    What I meant was that maths and science are so imperfect and have many limitations. We can't just explain or define everything in the world or universe. Sometimes, the whole theories can be flawed. One logical reason cuts the other. And leaves a person totally confused (if you can understand what I mean)

    And again sorry if I offended you in any way!
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    I was never offended, and it will take much more than that to offend me.
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hussein radi View Post
    btw, Your Avatar is disturbing.
    You mentioned it on purpose right? To cause offence I guess? But still I don't mind.

    Yeah it is creepy. But I love it. Don't know why...

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hussein radi View Post
    But why must it be infinity, why cant it be finite amount of time. We disobeyed god for a finite amount of time so it seems only fair for god to punish us for a finite time.
    Yeah this is a question I asked myself alot. But still don't have a good explanation. But you know what, when I think of the punishment, always Allah's mercy overwhelms me with hope. Why don't people highlight the good points that Allah would reward us for eternity for only some of the good deeds done in this very life...?
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    Its just the idea of infinity in hellfire really scares me, sometimes i wish it wasn't true.
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    Why don't people highlight the good points that Allah would reward us for eternity for only some of the good deeds done in this very life...?
    I think its because Hellfire is much more influential than paradise.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Hussein radi View Post
    Its just the idea of infinity in hellfire really scares me, sometimes i wish it wasn't true.
    Oh my! Wait a sec, I think I've one more point.

    The people who'll be burning in hell, they won't be those guilty of pardonable sin. Allah has put seal on some peoples' heart so that they'll never learn. No matter you give them thousand centuries or two thousand centuries or eternity; they would still not accept truth. And as Allah knows even the future, so He knows that these people would never learn. Therefore a punishment for eternity is justified.

    So do you agree ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hussein radi View Post
    I think its because Hellfire is much more influential than paradise.
    No no. That is only YOUR view. I think that people try to portray God as unjust or biased etc and that is why they do this.

    But you know what- we both can be wrong. So I would not draw my own conclusions here.
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    So do you agree ?
    If that what god says then i agree. I think god's wisdom is so beyond us that we will never be able to understand it. there are things that we must accept even if we don't fully comprehend them.
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    salam,

    I am not sure whether this is the right thread or not, but I think it's strongly related..inshAllah it will be of help

    http://www.islamicboard.com/clarific...-religion.html
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    I am not sure whether this is the right thread or not, but I think it's strongly related..inshAllah it will be of help
    Thank you for the support
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hussein radi View Post
    I am having difficulty comprehending someone being punished for eternity for a limited amout of time, lets say 100 years. If you use math you will find out that any number divided by infinity equals zero. Therefor, mathematically god is punishing humans for their limited life which has a value of 0. I need some help and clarification about this subject.
    the disbelievers will be the only ones that will remain in the hellfire. the believers will end up in jannah inshallah. but we should use this time now to seek as much knowledge as we can.. and keep away from sin. suffer in this life and enjoy in the next.. this is how you should look at things. the only reason why people ask these questions because there imaan is weak.

    i'm not saying my imaan is super but i try to find out why Allah has said such things and look at the interpretations behind it
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    the only reason why people ask these questions because there imaan is weak.
    I do admit my imaan is weak ): .
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hussein radi View Post
    But why must it be infinity, why cant it be finite amount of time. We disobeyed god for a finite amount of time so it seems only fair for god to punish us for a finite time.
    When did Allah say believers will be punished for eternity?

    That punishment is only for disbeleivers, if they were given the opportunity to live for eternity they would disbeleive for eternity

    Also do not question Allah's justice, he is most just and He does not ask for much to avoid eternal hellfire

    What do you suggest would happen to disbelievers after they have been punished for a finite time?
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    He it is Who sends blessings on you, as do His angels, that He may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light: and He is Full of Mercy to the Believers. [Quran {33:43}]
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    What do you suggest would happen to disbelievers after they have been punished for a finite time?
    Do everything in their power to avoid going back in there. you do mean punished in hell right?
    Last edited by Hussein radi; 06-26-2010 at 04:25 PM.
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    Re: Eternity hellfire clarification

    Salaamz! =D

    I'm not sure whether thers any math involved in saying that God will punish individuals for eternity..it literally means eternity - forever [only Allah S.W.T has divine knowledge of how long tht is]

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