Message to CSIS & FBI

[samobosna96]

In light of the raids here in Canada I am wondering how many of you are CSIS, RCMP, CIA or the FBI? I dislike transgression and the murdering of innocent people so if these 17 individuals were conspiring to bomb civilians then they should be accorded due punishment. Even though I disagree with violent methods to defeat the tryanny of the West I full heartedly support the downfall of the secular west and the revival of Islam. The intellectual pursuit of bringing Islam into the fold influence is a duty for all Muslims who are able. I should mention that I do not disagree with the use of arms to defend oneself, say in Iraq or elsewhere facing rampant injustice but when dealing with a general public that is manipulated by scaremongering there is no place to attack them, rather education is the more dignified approach.

There is enough proof that the US government acted in the 9/11 attacks so it makes me wonder considering Canadians have an ideological Prime Minister will our own government attack us too? After all an attack on Canada would solidify that a Liberal governmwent never comes to power again because they are mostly responsible for the decay of the Canadian military. With no military how can they defend Canadian values and society, the Liberals will be public enemy number 2 after al-qaeda. Lets face the facts if there was an attack on Canada the ruling government would have a lot to gain politically.

But for all you government agents wandering through this site I know your real enemy is Muslims not because we are violent but because Islam poses an intellectual challenge to your authority. If you want to arrest someone come and arrest me, not because I want to attack innocent Canadians, strategically and morally it is useless. Yoi should come and arrest me because I will never compromise Laa Illaha Illallah Muhammadur Rasullah.

[north_malaysian]

Last week Malaysian government held several 'terrorists' from Indonesia (said to be sub group of Jemaah Islamiah). And yesterday Donald Rumsfeld came to Malaysia and praise Malaysian government in counter-terrorism. So COINCIDENTAL isnt it?

[corn_fed]

There is enough proof that the US government acted in the 9/11 attacks...

where is this proof, you are talking out of your posterior bigtime... lets see you back it up

[lavikor201]

where is this proof, you are talking out of your posterior bigtime... lets see you back it up

You most likley will not get a reply....

[ACC]

You most likley will not get a reply....

I agree, there will not be a legitimate reply.

Proof here appears to be that which agrees with what they want to believe. If the source says something else, it is a lie, no matter who it is from. If the source agrees with what they want to believe, then it is realiable. How do you have a discussion with someone that thinks like that? Their minds and agenda are already made up, unfortunately.

[SirZubair]

where is this proof, you are talking out of your posterior bigtime... lets see you back it up

As a couple of people have pointed out already (in this thread),there wont be a reply.

And if there is,the source the information will be derived from will most proberly be an 'extremist muslim' who has nothing better to do than sit around making up conspiracy theorys.

O' Muslims,use your intellect.

Allah swt didnt bless us with a brain so that it can help us balance our heads..

[wilberhum]

Originally Posted by samobosna96
There is enough proof that the US government acted in the 9/11 attacks...

Those that profess lies through empty “Conspiracy Theories” Tell a lot more about themselves than there target.

“I dislike transgression and the murdering of innocent people”. Dislike? I dislike Vegemite. That is not what I feel about murdering.
“I full heartedly support the downfall of the secular west and the revival of Islam”. So much for peaceful coexistence. Why don’t you go do your revival in Saudi Arabia?
With no military how can they defend Canadian values and society. Now I think that would please you. After all, you support the downfall of Canada.
Because Islam poses an intellectual challenge to your authority. The only intellectually challenging thing I see here is getting you to face reality.

[samobosna96]

Listen here Kafr and Munafiq.........

Do you think I fear the lies of the kafir and those hypocrites who side and try to please the kafir? I fear Allah SWT not you. Islam is far superioor to your ideologies and religions. Islam taught you civilization while before Europe was filth and was wallowing in their feces and living in mud huts.
If it were not for Muslims Europe would still be a basin of waste and your precious renaissance would never have happened.

For our jewish friend let me pose this question to you.... Hitler burned down the Reichstage and blamed it on your grandparents and communists and used that as an excuse to invade Poland and setup gas chambers, why cant this scenario happen again where a government fakes a terrorist attack and blmaes it on innocent people. Doies hatred for Islam and Muslims blind you from this?

As for Christian friend i wont bother with you because anything that remotely goes against you beliefs is a lie and no matter how reasoned thinkers deal with you belief you cant see how wrong you are. Your arguments are fruitless and somehow laughable coming from a Christian. But anyways here is what Donald Rumsfeld himself said:

"Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center."

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcrip...1_t1012pm.html

I can give dozens more of information arguing the point the government did the attack. But no matter how much info I give you you still wont believe because you think America is the greatest nation in the world. And as same our jewish friend hatred for Islam and Muslims clouds your judgement, your're nothing but cattle and your media thinks for you.

As for the Munafiq who sides with the people of the book and the kafir to please them. You have openly mocked Muslims so if you can openly mock Muslims (ligitmitley criticizing is different) but mocking is to show your truw colors, it seems to be you of the hypocrites. You want to pledge your alleigance to the kafir and this makes them pleased. Use you intellect hypocrite and see that there is s war on Islam and Muslims. Here in Canada we have a government who just plotted a fake terrorist attack to legitimize there increased military spending and future increases, this budget passed unamiously without debate because of the alledged attack. This government has said that it will continue to hold these Muslims for the time being without charge and showing any evidence that they actually were plotting an attack. If these were christians or jews in Canada their charges would come in 48 hrs after arrest and formal charges soon after, but it is not the case for Muslims. Muslims are not afforded justice and you side with them out of fear of them, subhannallah!!!!!!!!

as for the kafir who is not sure if God exists the same is for you. You cant imgaine that this government would attack you but Bush said it himself he will never stop thinking of ways to harm Americans. Allah SWT created this entire universe and everything in the end will know the soverignty of Allah SWT. This entire world will be brought under the fold of Islam and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Yes I support the downfall of secularism but not through killing people but through education. Muslims do not need to attack canadians to bring Islam here because over 3000 canadians according to time magzein revert to islam annually and by 2020 1 and every 3 canadians born here will be Muslim, inshallah. Killing people to make islam superior is morally and strategically useless to the cause of liberating mankind from your mankind tyranny.

you uneducated twits think islam never brought anything to this world except the suicide bomber and that just shows your lack of intelligence. Try thinking for yourself and not through Cnn and Fox news. Mankind is nothing but cattle but once Islam comes to the forefront you will no longer be driven by deceit but rather by the truth and knowledge.

i will let you go with this article from ABC News because quit frankly I have a life and i dont wish it to waste more time talking with your ilk....

Copy and paste this link or click on it to read this article how the US government plottted against American cities with hijacked airliners after fidel casto came to power. They planned it before what is to say they didnt carry it out decades later...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

[cleo]

May Allah bring us peace...for there is none. America is heading for facisim, and it is spreading all over the world. It is a time for weeping, and crying. The great satan lives here, and his agenda is destroy. Pray for American, that we can heal, and therefore the world will also.

[ACC]

Listen here Kafr and Munafiq.........

Do you think I fear the lies of the kafir and those hypocrites who side and try to please the kafir? I fear Allah SWT not you. Islam is far superioor to your ideologies and religions. Islam taught you civilization while before Europe was filth and was wallowing in their feces and living in mud huts.
If it were not for Muslims Europe would still be a basin of waste and your precious renaissance would never have happened.

For our jewish friend let me pose this question to you.... Hitler burned down the Reichstage and blamed it on your grandparents and communists and used that as an excuse to invade Poland and setup gas chambers, why cant this scenario happen again where a government fakes a terrorist attack and blmaes it on innocent people. Doies hatred for Islam and Muslims blind you from this?

As for Christian friend i wont bother with you because anything that remotely goes against you beliefs is a lie and no matter how reasoned thinkers deal with you belief you cant see how wrong you are. Your arguments are fruitless and somehow laughable coming from a Christian. But anyways here is what Donald Rumsfeld himself said:

"Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center."

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcrip...1_t1012pm.html

I can give dozens more of information arguing the point the government did the attack. But no matter how much info I give you you still wont believe because you think America is the greatest nation in the world. And as same our jewish friend hatred for Islam and Muslims clouds your judgement, your're nothing but cattle and your media thinks for you.

As for the Munafiq who sides with the people of the book and the kafir to please them. You have openly mocked Muslims so if you can openly mock Muslims (ligitmitley criticizing is different) but mocking is to show your truw colors, it seems to be you of the hypocrites. You want to pledge your alleigance to the kafir and this makes them pleased. Use you intellect hypocrite and see that there is s war on Islam and Muslims. Here in Canada we have a government who just plotted a fake terrorist attack to legitimize there increased military spending and future increases, this budget passed unamiously without debate because of the alledged attack. This government has said that it will continue to hold these Muslims for the time being without charge and showing any evidence that they actually were plotting an attack. If these were christians or jews in Canada their charges would come in 48 hrs after arrest and formal charges soon after, but it is not the case for Muslims. Muslims are not afforded justice and you side with them out of fear of them, subhannallah!!!!!!!!

as for the kafir who is not sure if God exists the same is for you. You cant imgaine that this government would attack you but Bush said it himself he will never stop thinking of ways to harm Americans. Allah SWT created this entire universe and everything in the end will know the soverignty of Allah SWT. This entire world will be brought under the fold of Islam and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Yes I support the downfall of secularism but not through killing people but through education. Muslims do not need to attack canadians to bring Islam here because over 3000 canadians according to time magzein revert to islam annually and by 2020 1 and every 3 canadians born here will be Muslim, inshallah. Killing people to make islam superior is morally and strategically useless to the cause of liberating mankind from your mankind tyranny.

you uneducated twits think islam never brought anything to this world except the suicide bomber and that just shows your lack of intelligence. Try thinking for yourself and not through Cnn and Fox news. Mankind is nothing but cattle but once Islam comes to the forefront you will no longer be driven by deceit but rather by the truth and knowledge.

i will let you go with this article from ABC News because quit frankly I have a life and i dont wish it to waste more time talking with your ilk....

Copy and paste this link or click on it to read this article how the US government plottted against American cities with hijacked airliners after fidel casto came to power. They planned it before what is to say they didnt carry it out decades later...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

You reek of tolerance (serious sarcasm).

Is it possible that people have used their brains and have done serious research and have come to the conclusion that their religion and views are superior to yours, or is every opinion that does not agree with yours ignorant and the fruit of weak thought and research?

What makes your sources any more reliable than someone elses? Is it because it agrees with what you want to be the truth. I have said several times that people believe what they want to. What is true to you is a joke to me and vice versa.

[Ghazi]

Listen here Kafr and Munafiq.........

Who's the Munafiq

[samobosna96]

okay Chrisitian lets go to thje Comparative religion room are discuss:


Islam vs. Chrisitianity: Which is Superior?


But i forware you I have studied religion I will defeat you inshallah ta'ala. will you take up my challenge???

If so hurry and say yes, I have to leave for a few hours but i will make the threat available so you camn post your rebuttle of Islam and I will then when I get back I will refute your claims and make islam superior, so yes or no?

[Vishnu]

In light of the raids here in Canada I am wondering how many of you are CSIS, RCMP, CIA or the FBI? I dislike transgression and the murdering of innocent people so if these 17 individuals were conspiring to bomb civilians then they should be accorded due punishment. Even though I disagree with violent methods to defeat the tryanny of the West I full heartedly support the downfall of the secular west and the revival of Islam. The intellectual pursuit of bringing Islam into the fold influence is a duty for all Muslims who are able. I should mention that I do not disagree with the use of arms to defend oneself, say in Iraq or elsewhere facing rampant injustice but when dealing with a general public that is manipulated by scaremongering there is no place to attack them, rather education is the more dignified approach.

There is enough proof that the US government acted in the 9/11 attacks so it makes me wonder considering Canadians have an ideological Prime Minister will our own government attack us too? After all an attack on Canada would solidify that a Liberal governmwent never comes to power again because they are mostly responsible for the decay of the Canadian military. With no military how can they defend Canadian values and society, the Liberals will be public enemy number 2 after al-qaeda. Lets face the facts if there was an attack on Canada the ruling government would have a lot to gain politically.

But for all you government agents wandering through this site I know your real enemy is Muslims not because we are violent but because Islam poses an intellectual challenge to your authority. If you want to arrest someone come and arrest me, not because I want to attack innocent Canadians, strategically and morally it is useless. Yoi should come and arrest me because I will never compromise Laa Illaha Illallah Muhammadur Rasullah.

Do you live in the west? If so why not move to Pakistan, Iran, or Syria? The you can live in peace in an Islamic World, instead of praying for the downfall of people who give freedom of speech, and let people express there faith however they want.

If you hate the west so much, then move to the Middle East. Or do you enjoy the rights you have in the west?

[ACC]

okay Chrisitian lets go to thje Comparative religion room are discuss:


Islam vs. Chrisitianity: Which is Superior?


But i forware you I have studied religion I will defeat you inshallah ta'ala. will you take up my challenge???

If so hurry and say yes, I have to leave for a few hours but i will make the threat available so you camn post your rebuttle of Islam and I will then when I get back I will refute your claims and make islam superior, so yes or no?

Is this this addressed to me? My name is Christian? Shall I call you Muslim now? You will have to do your debate with someone that has studied both Christianity and Islam extensively. You would surely enjoy debating with people at the faith freedom web-site. From what I have seen of that place, they love to argue religion with Muslims and have posted all of their debates. They seem equally as tolerant as you as well. But feel free to post why you think Islam is superior and provide the link to the argument my friend. It would be interesting to see everyone's claims to superiority.

[samobosna96]

Oh my Hindu friend, what rights do I have in the west? These so called right you speak of can be taken away in canada for any just cause that can be defened in a democratic state. that means a Muslim is a terrorist and is a threat to national security therefore take his rights away. I have no rights here as a Muslim. What Islamic countries do you speak of? there are none, these countries do not implment islam the way iof the rightly guided caliphs so there are apostates. And islam allows people to practice their faith all they want but in Islamic state they cant go out yelling in the streets down with islam just as i cannot go out in the streets and say down with canadians homosexual values....

[ACC]

Who's the Munafiq

I have figured out what kafir is. What is munafiq?

[Trumble]

... why cant this scenario happen again where a government fakes a terrorist attack and blmaes it on innocent people. Doies hatred for Islam and Muslims blind you from this?

No. Theoretically it could happen, as could just about anything else, but most of us have considered the evidence and the conspiracy theory has little to recommend or support it. The whole thing has been set out at great length at many places across the web, so there is no point in repeating it. 9/11 was the work of muslims - not representive muslims; fanatics.. but still muslims. Once you learn to deal with that, you can start calling others "uneducated twits". At present, though.. the "twits" are far less gullible than you; they believe the facts not the fairy story.

Nobody "hates" Islam or muslims - just those responsible for atrocities like 9/11.

[Vishnu]

Oh my Hindu friend, what rights do I have in the west? These so called right you speak of can be taken away in canada for any just cause that can be defened in a democratic state. that means a Muslim is a terrorist and is a threat to national security therefore take his rights away. I have no rights here as a Muslim. What Islamic countries do you speak of? there are none, these countries do not implment islam the way iof the rightly guided caliphs so there are apostates. And islam allows people to practice their faith all they want but in Islamic state they cant go out yelling in the streets down with islam just as i cannot go out in the streets and say down with canadians homosexual values....

You can yell down with Homosexuals, you can yell down with Christ if you want in Canada. There is freedom of speech, freedom of religion.

Go move to Pakistan if you want to live in a little Islamic cacoon with no other types of faith. If you hate the west so much, then LEAVE. No one is stopping you.

[samobosna96]

Is this this addressed to me? My name is Christian? Shall I call you Muslim now? You will have to do your debate with someone that has studied both Christianity and Islam extensively. You would surely enjoy debating with people at the faith freedom web-site. From what I have seen of that place, they love to argue religion with Muslims and have posted all of their debates. They seem equally as tolerant as you as well. But feel free to post why you think Islam is superior and provide the link to the argument my friend. It would be interesting to see everyone's claims to superiority.

Yes you can call me Muslim, as our religion or way of life is our identity. Come on you said islam is a joke so back it up. Why should I debate with the likes of Ali Sina who hate islam and do not represent the facts truthfuly much like joachim katz or whatever his name is. you rely on ignorance in your beleifs i rely on truth and knowledge. i am sure at least you can be reasonable and recognize the truth that is why i am willing to debate with you. Islam is superior to everything but islam allows you to practice your faith peacefully and a protected people no matter what a few apostate rulers do in the middle east, as they will ber brought down too.

[ACC]

You can yell down with Homosexuals, you can yell down with Christ if you want in Canada. There is freedom of speech, freedom of religion.

Go move to Pakistan if you want to live in a little Islamic cacoon with no other types of faith. If you hate the west so much, then LEAVE. No one is stopping you.

I couldnt have said this any better. I guess the taliban was paradise on Earth to some.