Do Angels Have free will?

[NiceGuy1987]

Asslaamu Allykum wr wb,

i was wondering do angels have free will because i was told they have free will but do not disobey Allah swt?

[The Ruler]

they do dont they...and that is how iblis became iblis :confused:

[NiceGuy1987]

they do dont they...and that is how iblis became iblis :confused:

ummm.. ibilis wasnt an angel he was from the jin

And (remember) when We said to the angels: “Prostrate yourselves unto Adam.” So they prostrated themselves except Iblees (Satan). He was one of the jinn; he disobeyed the Command of his Lord. Will you then take him (Iblees) and his offspring as protectors and helpers rather than Me while they are enemies to you? What an evil is the exchange for the Zaalimoon (polytheists, and wrongdoers, etc).” [al-Kahf 18:50]


go to explains more http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...%20free%20will

[ABWAN]

I must admit I have a really bad memory. So I may be wrong when I cite Imam Anwar Alawlaki. If I remember correctly (from one of his lectures)..then the answer is NO. even logically NO would be the right answer

And Iblis is not an angel. Mr.Iblis is a jinn

[NiceGuy1987]

I must admit I have a really bad memory. So I may be wrong when I cite Imam Anwar Alawlaki. If I remember correctly (from one of his lectures)..then the answer is NO. even logically NO would be the right answer

And Iblis is not an angel. Mr.Iblis is a jinn

Thats what i always thought they have no free will but then when i went to an islamic class the teacher said, " they have the facility of choice, however they choose to do good and not disobey." so im confused and i explained to someone they have free choice but dont disobey allah wen he commands them to do something.

[Khayal]

You can find your answer from the following link.



http://www.load-islam.com/artical_de...orious%20Quran

http://www.load-islam.com/artical_de...orious%20Quran

I hope It will help.

[lolwatever]

Asslaamu Allykum wr wb,

i was wondering do angels have free will because i was told they have free will but do not disobey Allah swt?

salamz dude

http://islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=8976&ln=eng

checkout the bits on angels... xplains it inshalha... basically they dont disobey allah.

The angels were created noble; they never disobey Allaah when He commands them to do something and they do what they are commanded.

So it is not possbile for the angels to disobey their Lord, because they are protected from sin and they are naturally inclined to obey Allaah.

[Malaikah]

" they have the facility of choice, however they choose to do good and not disobey."

That is what I heard from a knowledgeable teacher also... however I heard another knowledgeable teacher say that they don't have free will... so yeh lol, confusing... but it isn't the end of the world I guess.

[lolwatever]

That is what I heard from a knowledgeable teacher also... however I heard another knowledgeable teacher say that they don't have free will... so yeh lol, confusing... but it isn't the end of the world I guess.

did either of the teachers quote ne evidence?

jazaks

[Malaikah]

No! Neither did! lol that's the annoying thing...

[ژاله]

Allah says
لايعصون الله ما امرهم و يفعلون مايؤمرون
they(angels) dont disobey Allah and they do what they are ordered....
it seems that they dont have their own will...
Wallahu a3lam
wassalam

[NiceGuy1987]

Asslaamu Allykum wr wb,

umm... i asked a sheikh today he said no they dont have free will, i asked on al magrib forum i was told they dont have free will and supported with evidence and that they do have free will and supported with evidence lol,

go to this link to find the evidence lol http://forums.almaghrib.org/showthre...588#post178588

i am asking because i told a couple of people angels have free will but they do not disobey Allah swt. an example being wen gabrile a.s. went to through dust in pharoahs mouth, or wen the angels questioned Allah on how will u create man who will cause mistichef on earth etc. so i need to be sure and if im wrong need to say i am wrong

[lolwatever]

Asslaamu Allykum wr wb,

umm... i asked a sheikh today he said no they dont have free will, i asked on al magrib forum i was told they dont have free will and supported with evidence and that they do have free will and supported with evidence lol,

go to this link to find the evidence lol http://forums.almaghrib.org/showthre...588#post178588

i am asking because i told a couple of people angels have free will but they do not disobey Allah swt. an example being wen gabrile a.s. went to through dust in pharoahs mouth, or wen the angels questioned Allah on how will u create man who will cause mistichef on earth etc. so i need to be sure and if im wrong need to say i am wrong

the only evidence that exists is that "Angels do what they are ordered and they don't disobey Allah",

it's like saying a child always does what his parents tell him, and he never disobeys his parents... doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have free will.

so as long as no side brigns evidence... then Allahu alam.

and really it's not like its that beneifical for us 2 know.... how is that going to affect us?

tc

[ژاله]

really it does'nt affect us in any way

[IbnAbdulHakim]

it would be scary if someone as powerful as Gibrail AS who could lift up the people of sudum with the tip of his wings had free will!!!!

[amirah_87]

Allah says
لايعصون الله ما امرهم و يفعلون مايؤمرون
they(angels) dont disobey Allah and they do what they are ordered....
it seems that they dont have their own will...
Wallahu a3lam
wassalam

I'd say that this Aayah here sums it up MashaAllah.

[Umar001]

Asslaamu Allykum wr wb,

i am asking because i told a couple of people angels have free will but they do not disobey Allah swt. an example being wen gabrile a.s. went to through dust in pharoahs mouth, or wen the angels questioned Allah on how will u create man who will cause mistichef on earth etc. so i need to be sure and if im wrong need to say i am wrong

Wa Aleykum Salam Wa Rhametulah,

I do not think either are proof enough.

Both can be reconciled with the belief that angels do not have free will.

[NiceGuy1987]

JAzakallahu kayeer for all ur help brothers and sisters may allah reward u all with jannah and protect u from hell ameen

[lolwatever]

JAzakallahu kayeer for all ur help brothers and sisters may allah reward u all with jannah and protect u from hell ameen

ameen u2bro

[barney]

Hai!

I just wanted a quick banter about angels .

1) Are they free willed? Satan was, because although he was a perfect angel and quite high up in the rank system of angels, he decided he knew best, rebelled and became fallen. what about the others? Do they have free will or are all their actions and thoughts controlled by God?
If one of them got miffed at another would they start fighting?

2)Do islamic angels have wings? Or are they like Djinns in form?
3) Actually do Christian Angels have wings. ive never seen em portrayed flightless, but I cant find anything bibalic about them being airborne apart from where they appeared in the sky to the shepherds. And they might not have had wings to do that, they could have just hovered or something.