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    Hello - I am new here. I am a Christian and have been very drawn towards Islam... in strange and sometimes frightening ways. I am an american Christian and yet I have started wearing salwar kameez and jilbab. I found them online and ordered some and now I don't want to wear anything else. I stopped dying my hair and am only using henna and letting it grow out long. I can't bear to wear perfume with alcohol or to put chemicals on my hair or skin. During the day, when I am home alone I put on a headscarf and modest clothes and I feel so safe and comfortable. And yet I cannot leave my religion...

    Several months ago I started researching Islam and the Muslim people. I did this because I have a special love in my heart for humanity and am especially drawn to people who are persecuted. I discovered what beautiful, compassionate people Muslims are. I am now an advocate for Palestinians, Lebanese, Iraqis etc... all Muslim people who are now being so horribly persecuted! I pray for Muslim people every day. Many nights I do not sleep... Many nights I cry and cry and cannot stop thinking about the children...

    And so, I came here because I need to talk about what is happening to me. There is no way I can share this with my Christian friends.

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    Re: Hello

    This must be blessing from Allah towards you. Do you sometimes wish to convert?
    Last edited by Hashim_507; 12-06-2007 at 06:52 AM.
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    Re: Hello

    Very much so. I find myself doing things that do not come from Christianity. For example -- the last time I cut my hair I found myself praying, asking God/Allah to forgive me and promised that I was only trimming the ends of my hair in order to make it grow more naturally. I am not even sure if there is a command in Islam for women not to cut their hair -- I just "feel" things like that. I have such unexplainable longings. And I feel such a connection with the Palestinian people especially. I don't know why! I have purchased many books about Zionism and the crimes of Israel... books about the ethnic cleansing of Palestine... and more and more...

    well, its hard to describe. But the answer to your question is yes. But I can't turn my back on God and Jesus. Nor can I turn from my husband, who is the most wonderful husband in the world. My whole life in entrenched in our marriage and our marriage is rooted in the principles of Jesus and our relationship with God and Jesus Christ.

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    Re: Hello

    format_quote Originally Posted by caroline View Post
    Very much so. I find myself doing things that do not come from Christianity. For example -- the last time I cut my hair I found myself praying, asking God/Allah to forgive me and promised that I was only trimming the ends of my hair in order to make it grow more naturally. I am not even sure if there is a command in Islam for women not to cut their hair -- I just "feel" things like that. I have such unexplainable longings. And I feel such a connection with the Palestinian people especially. I don't know why! I have purchased many books about Zionism and the crimes of Israel... books about the ethnic cleansing of Palestine... and more and more...

    well, its hard to describe. But the answer to your question is yes. But I can't turn my back on God and Jesus. Nor can I turn from my husband, who is the most wonderful husband in the world. My whole life in entrenched in our marriage and our marriage is rooted in the principles of Jesus and our relationship with God and Jesus Christ.

    You are turning towards the true God which is Allah swt. Do you believe Allah is the only God and Mohamed is the messanger of Allah? from your heart?
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    Re: Hello

    I'm going to be very honest with you. I do believe that Allah is God, the god of Abraham and that God and Allah are simply two translations of the same name. Just like "Jesus" in English and "Jezi" in Haitian Creole are two words from different languages but they are the same name. I do believe God/Allah is the one God, the only creator of heaven and earth... there is none like him, none above him. When I pray in church I fight the urge to fall on my face before God -- sometimes I do this and people are kind to me because they know I love God so deeply.

    I also love Jesus and believe he was the son of God and that he came to bring the message of peace to the world. I believe that the jews hated him because they were hard headed and did not love God sincerely. Jesus is my example, my light, my comfort and strength. God is my creator and my all.

    I also believe that human beings are born perfect and that by being in the world they stray from their perfect relationship with God.

    I don't think Christianity and Islam are mutually exclusive. I believe that is a lie cooked up mainly by the people in power who are trying to defame Islam.

    the interesting thing is that all the persecution is only making Islam stronger. Have you noticed that?

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    Re: Hello

    Hello! and welcome to the forums.
    interesting story :sunny:
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    ...desperate for husnul-khitaam...


    please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.


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    Re: Hello

    format_quote Originally Posted by caroline View Post
    I'm going to be very honest with you. I do believe that Allah is God, the god of Abraham and that God and Allah are simply two translations of the same name. Just like "Jesus" in English and "Jezi" in Haitian Creole are two words from different languages but they are the same name. I do believe God/Allah is the one God, the only creator of heaven and earth... there is none like him, none above him. When I pray in church I fight the urge to fall on my face before God -- sometimes I do this and people are kind to me because they know I love God so deeply.

    I also love Jesus and believe he was the son of God and that he came to bring the message of peace to the world. I believe that the jews hated him because they were hard headed and did not love God sincerely. Jesus is my example, my light, my comfort and strength. God is my creator and my all.

    I also believe that human beings are born perfect and that by being in the world they stray from their perfect relationship with God.

    I don't think Christianity and Islam are mutually exclusive. I believe that is a lie cooked up mainly by the people in power who are trying to defame Islam.

    the interesting thing is that all the persecution is only making Islam stronger. Have you noticed that?

    What do you know about Jesus on Islamic view?
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    Re: Hello

    I know that Jesus is seen as a prophet but not the son of God and that Islam does not believe that he was crucified or that following him has any saving power.

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    Re: Hello

    format_quote Originally Posted by caroline View Post
    I know that Jesus is seen as a prophet but not the son of God and that Islam does not believe that he was crucified or that following him has any saving power.

    Allah have no association with anyone or anothing; he is all mighty and Jesus is just messanger. Do you read the quran before?
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    Re: Hello

    Hiya Caroline, welcome to the forum,

    If you have any questions, ask away

    I can wish you nothing but the best for the future, May God guide you,

    You seem like a genuinely nice girl, mashaAllah *smiles*

    Keep posting and stay active and become part of the Li family!

    Peace be upon those who follow guidance.
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    Re: Hello

    One thing I would say is that Jesus is very sacred to Christians. Saying that Jesus wasn't God's son or that he was nothing other than a messenger or that he wasn't any more special than any other prophet,etc.. well, for us, that's a lot like if we were to say that Mohammed wasn't anything special, just a messenger or that he wasn't necessarily to be followed to the letter.

    Now, I am not trying to speak contentiousness - I have great respect for Muslim people and your way of life. I see it is very beautiful. One reason I love and respect you so, is because you have kept your modesty in the midst of a pornographic society. I also love and respect you because most every Muslim I have met has been so gracious, polite and gentle. I also love and respect you because you are so dedicated to prayer. There are many reasons to love and respect you and your way of life.

    And so I do not want to be offensive. Just please understand that Jesus being the son of God is a very sacred belief to us. One of my earliest and most beloved memories is being on my grandmother's front porch in the summertime, smelling her climbing roses all around me and listening to her tell me the story of Jesus and sing her old songs. How could a person turn from something to basic and intrinsic to their entire belief system?

    I feel I am being drawn, but I don't believe that any path that God would point me towards would ever require I turn away from my love for Jesus, who has given his all for me.

    I'm being honest. And I hope you all realize I say everything I say with the utmost respect.

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    In the Qur'an, stories about the life and teachings of Jesus Christ (called 'Isa in Arabic) are abundant. The Qur'an recalls his miraculous birth, his teachings, the miracles he performed by God's permission, and his life as a respected prophet of God. The Qur'an also repeatedly reminds that Jesus was a human prophet sent by God, not part of God Himself. For more detailed information about what Muslims believe about Jesus, please visit the FAQ index page. Below are some direct quotations from the Qur'an regarding his life and teachings.
    "Behold! the angels said, 'Oh Mary! God gives you glad tidings of a Word from Him. His name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter, and in (the company of) those nearest to God. He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. He shall be (in the company) of the righteous... And God will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel'" (3:45-48).

    "He [Jesus] said: 'I am indeed a servant of God. He has given me revelation and made me a prophet; He has made me blessed wheresoever I be; and He has enjoined on me prayer and charity as long as I live. He has made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable. So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)!' Such was Jesus the son of Mary. It is a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) God that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is" (19:30-35).

    "When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: 'Now I have come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which you dispute. Therefore, fear God and obey me. God, He is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him -- this is a Straight Way.' But sects from among themselves fell into disagreement. So woe to the wrongdoers, from the penalty of a Grievous Day!" (43:63-65)

    "And behold! God will say [i.e. on the Day of Judgment]: 'Oh Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?' He will say: 'Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Yours. For You know in full all that is hidden. Never did I say to them anything except what You commanded me to say: 'Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' And I was a witness over them while I lived among them. When You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things'" (5:116-117).

    "Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how God makes His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!" (5:75).
    Hello

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    Re: Hello

    Welcome to the forum. Feel free to email me (I think as a newbie you can do that) if you'd like to chat with an american woman who has been there, done that so to speak.


    In my own spiritual journey, I lost Jesus (as), then found him again in Islam. I deconverted from christianity after loosing faith in the validity of the bible. When I embraced Islam, I could once again honor Jesus (as) as a central figure in my faith.

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    Peace Caroline,
    You will find that many of us on this forum are reverts from other religions. Some of our Muslim members were Ministers, Priests, Seminarians etc. You will often hear some of us say that it was the love of Jesus(as) that led us to Islam. I do not know of a single revert who feels he/she has given up Jesus(as) but you will us say is that we have now learned to love him properly and as a result our admiration, love and respect for him has actually grown.
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    Re: Hello

    Howdy.

    Im a revert from being a Catholic Christain!

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    Hi Caroline.
    Can you explain what the word (SON) means?

    Im deep sure that you wont find a satisfactory meaning in ur heart.

    You said that if you say that Jesus is just a prophet, it would be like we Say that Muhammad is just a prophet. Indeed we say so. Muhammad and Jesus are just prophets.

    You should know that nothing can be like God or similar to God in anyway. God is above humanity. Nothing called half God half human like old Roman traditions!

    I think that God will lead you near to Islam.

    Another thing, you wont turn ur back to God or Jesus, but you will correct ur concept to them.

    Im almost sure that u and ur husband will be muslims soon. (YES) and your husband. I dont know why im sure of that

    You will remember my words one day inshallah

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    One more thing Sis, theres a very interesting and logical book called Amazing Quran by Dr. Gary Miller.

    You will enjoy itttttttttttttt :thankyou:

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    Re: Hello

    My husband is a Christian Minister.

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    Re: Hello

    wow! you do have a dilemma! i thought i had problems!
    best of luck to you.
    Hello

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    Smile Re: Hello

    format_quote Originally Posted by caroline View Post
    My husband is a Christian Minister.
    Believe me or not, if he's sincere and a good man, it will be easier for him to be logically convinced.

    Islam is the religion of mind and logic. All sincere people who study it, can do nothing but be convinced. its really irresistable for our minds.

    I wish everything will be great for you.
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