In some Muslim countries, some scholars suddenly declare that they have become peers. The public in general then believe that the peer is dear and near to Allah and he is able to do any good or harm for his disciples by exerting his influence on Allah. Many even believe that a peer's pleasure means Allah's pleasure. So they go to such peer named satanic scholars and pay them money to buy Allah's grace and favour through him.
Therefore all the peers are great satans, who trade in shirk.
In Malaysia, some Muslims (like 0.1% of us) visit certain "saint" tombs and put some flowers and recite dua there... but it just that...and the religious authorities are doing a good job in eradicating the practice.
But the people in the sub-continent they not only reciting dua and put flowers there...they even put colourful clothes on it plus...singing, clapping hands etc.... are these practice have something to do about Hinduism too...
Sorry, if my question annoyed any bros and sis from the sub-continent...just being curious...
No onez judging people here i don't judge any1...I understand where SIs Broken and Bro Pauper ur cuming frm but I'm not giving benefit of the doubt to people who throw it in my face and I have seen it with my own two eyes...I'm not ignorant..i wouldn't even comment on this issue if i didn't experience it myself.
I would just like to advice you to read up on Hazarat Musa (pbuh) and his travels with Hazarat Hider (pbuh) ...
I personally agree 100% with what brother pauper has been saying in this thread ... brothers/sisters have to realise not to generalise when discussing such matters ... first thing is who are we to judge others ... Allah (swt) hasnt given permission to anyone to do this .... "shirk" is one of the highest sins in Islam basically because it is born from Niyat (intention) ... niyat is between Allah and the individual only ... you cannot judge someone for where they go or what they do because you can NEVER know what their niyat is.
"shirk" is one of the highest sins in Islam basically because it is born from Niyat (intention) ... niyat is between Allah and the individual only ... you cannot judge someone for where they go or what they do because you can NEVER know what their niyat is.
Brother,
Referring to the intention in these matters is a weak argument.
The word Talaq is an explicit statement of divorce, and if its said even jokingly, the wife is divorced. The man cannot then go and say that: "I only intended it allegorically, whereas my intention was not to divorce her". Likewise, when one makes a clear statement of shirk, such as "Oh Shaykh Fulan, aid me!", its still shirk, regardless of the intention. His claim that he intended something else holds no water.
Last edited by Ibn Abi Ahmed; 09-22-2008 at 12:56 PM.
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