2,080 lashes for Saudi man who raped daughter

[CosmicPathos]

Drunk or not, they should give him millions of lashes before cutting his head in Public

I do not think cutting off the head of rapist is Islamic punishment. It seems to be stoning to death. And that of a person who is mentally sane, does know that rape is wrong etc. Many people, due to mental illnesses do not know that rape is wrong. Even I would not be able to know rationally if rape is really wrong or not if I did not believe in a God since in absence of God everything would seem to be at war with me.

 

[attica]

To reply to an earlier question, people generally plead guilty in the hope of getting a lighter sentence, which they sometimes do and sometimes don't, at least that's the way it is in most European countries. I don't know how that works in a Sharia context.
I know that in America, death sentences are mostly given to people who are too poor and uneducated to get themselves a good enough lawyer or defend themselves properly. The wealthy businessman type who trades in weapons does not get a death penalty but the poor, uneducated guy who kills someone in a bar brawl does get it.
Do you know if there exist any statistics showing death penalties by social/economic class in Saudi? I bet you won't see many wealthy oil sheik types in those statistics! The rich always look after themselves and it is ultimately they who control the laws of a country. I do not want such rich BEASTS (for want of a better word) to have the power to hand out the death penalty.

 

[Ansariyah]

Saudi is a sick country, I remember a couple of years back they beheaded 6 immigrant young boys for stealing food. And they lash this guy and let him live.

There's no justice in Saudi! The relatives of that girl should personally punish that man.

 

[esperanza]

saudi is not a sick country..people are not beheaded for steAling.. DO YOU HAVE A LINK FOR THAT STORY
and as for rich and poor,,where mudrer or rape takes place there is no exception

 

[ardianto]

The court in the holy city of Mecca found the man guilty of raping his teenage daughter for seven years while under the influence of drugs.

What drug is it and why he consumed this drug ?

Drug that given by doctor to someone who under medicine will not give bad effect like this is if the patient consume the drug follow the doctor instruction. But if the drug is used not under instruction from doctor, it can be turn into narcotic or psychotropic.

This man raped his daughter after he used drug. But actually, he would not rape his daughter if he never had intention to rape his daughter before. He had this intention, but he was afraid to carry out his intention, and he always able to control himself.

But drug made him lost his self control. Yes, this is the effect of drug.

We cannot say this man is insane. He is sane, because insane person never use drug. We cannot say drug made him have intention to rape his daughter. He had intention to rape his daughter before he use that drug. Drug is just something that made him dare to implement his bad intention.

 

[islamica]

At least I can say Alhamdulillah for Islam and the Shariah, I don't have to worry about the crackpots sitting here defending their fellow losers over the suffering of the victim in their own pathetic little world of reasoning and justice.

 

[CosmicPathos]

At least I can say Alhamdulillah for Islam and the Shariah, I don't have to worry about the crackpots sitting here defending their fellow losers over the suffering of the victim in their own pathetic little world of reasoning and justice.

I am also glad that Sharia exists. If this man is really insane, then Sharia will protect his life and that of his daughter from blood thirsty irrational masses that you seem to be a part of. Let me ask, "pious" men, how many of you are willing to marry a raped girl like this?

Blood thirsty masses that suggest the relatives should personally kill the man. Or that the guy who supplied drugs to this man should not be punished but lets kill this man who is poor, has no protection, easily caught. Lets not kill the thousands of kufaar who have killed millions of Muslims, but lets kill an easy prey, who we are not sure was insane or not, raped her daughter under influence of drugs. Maybe someone forced those drugs into him. Hudood punishment are applied when there is NOT A SINGLE SHRED OF REASONABLE DOUBT about the criminal's involvement. TONS of question arise after reading this story.

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

most of the above are emotional responses. The man committed a heinous crime, no denying. But he was under influence of drugs. Was he addicted to drugs? You do know that people who are addicted to drugs are sick and need professional help? Not all but many. Druggies are humans. They need help. No, they are not evils who should be castrated. Physicians have responsibility towards this class of humanity. If this guy was addicted to drugs, and was committing crimes, Islamically he is not considered "sane." Wallahu Aalim. Yes, what he did was a crime, and due punishment should be given after the man's condition has been judged properly. Moreover, in a godless world, there is nothing wrong with rape. More so in the context of biological evolution.

I am sure YOU would writing the same rubbish above IF your mother was RAPED by this man? Yeah, that is BIG "if". The girl is the one that will need help for the rest of her life. Imagine your own father rapes you? do you think SHE will have sound mind after this? Do you think she is able to look in the mirror without thinking about what her own flesh and blood did to her!!!

And if he knew drugs cause to hurt others and behave in way that is anti- social and yet he still continued to take drug make him liable for his action.

durg or no drug!!! he should be hanged!

 

[CosmicPathos]

I am sure YOU would writing the same rubbish above IF your mother was RAPED by this man? Yeah, that is BIG "if". The girl is the one that will need help for the rest of her life. Imagine your own father rapes you? do you think SHE will have sound mind after this? Do you think she is able to look in the mirror without thinking about what her own flesh and blood did to her!!!

And if he knew drugs cause to hurt others and behave in way that is anti- social and yet he still continued to take drug make him liable for his action.

durg or no drug!!! he should be hanged!

Yea if she is reasonable and mentally rational, then she should be able to accept that her father was psychologically ill and raped her. If he had not been mentally ill, he wont have raped her. She should grow up rationally and learn to accept it was not her father's fault, once it is proven he was insane. And if he was sane then well he should be punished. As for her living whole life like that, well its a traumatic experience and she should be provided some sort of psychological counseling. But no one can force her to help herself. She should grow up and move on, everyone in life goes through different sort of traumatic experiences. Its just not her alone.

"durg or no drug!!! he should be hanged". Sorry, Sharia does not cater to your blood thirsty fantasies involving men!

 

[Muhammad]

Punishment in Islam is the responsibility of the person in authority and is based upon Islamic principles and guidelines, where there is a clear process of ascertaining the facts and deciding on a suitable penalty based upon the laws of the Shariah. It is not for lay people to carry out. There is no benefit in speculating further over this story and getting into needless disputes.

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