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Clover said:
I would say, a god of the Muslim people.
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Incorrect. He is not the Lord of the Muslim people He is the Lord of all that exists, irregardless of race or religion, shape or form, time or dimension etc. Whether people deny that or accept is another issue but they are given the choice to do so. It's the same as you denying your biological parents but that doesn't negate the fact that they are not your parents nor does it nullify their existance.
 
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'Abd-al Latif said:
Incorrect. He is not the Lord of the Muslim people He is the Lord of all that exists, irregardless of race or religion, shape or form, time or dimension etc. Whether people deny that or accept is another issue but they are given the choice to do so. It's the same as you denying your biological parents but that doesn't negate the fact that they are not your parents nor does it nullify their existance.
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That's your religion, not everyone's. The fact is, Allah is God, to Muslims. Not to Christians, Jews, Pagans, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, and others. That is why I said God to the Muslim people. He is GOD to you, but not to me, and others. Yes, he is the ruler of all that exists, to Muslims, not to others. I am not demeaning Allah, I am simply stating a true statement. Allah is god, to Muslims.
 
drahmed said:
if someone asks you;
who is Allah?
what would you say?
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Allah. He who has Godhood - the power to create all entities.

If they need a break down then..


1. Allah
2. The Compassionate (al-Rahman)
3. The Merciful (al-Rahim)
4. The King/Sovereign (al-Malik)
5. The Holy (al-Quddus)
6. The Source of Peace (al-Salam)
7. The Giver of Faith (al-Mu'min)
8. The Overall Protector (al-Muhaimin)
9. The Strong (al-`Aziz)
10. The Almighty (al-Jabbar)
11. The Majestic (al-Mutakabbir)
12. The Creator (al-Khaliq)
13. The Maker (al-Bari')
14. The Fashioner (al-Musawwir)
15. The Great Forgiver (al-Ghaffar)
16. The Dominant (al-Qahhar)
17. The Bestower (al-Wahhab)
18. The Provider (al-Razzaq)
19. The Opener, The Reliever (al-Fattah)
20. The All-Knowing (al-`Alim)
21. The Restrainer, The Withholder (al-Qabid)
22. The Extender (al-Basit)
23. The Humbler (al-Khafid)
24. The Exalter (al-Rafi`)
25. The Empowerer (al-Mu`izz)
26. The Humiliator (al-Mudhill)
27. The All-Hearing, The Hearer (al-Sami`)
28. The All-Seeing (al-Basir)
29. The Judge (al-Hakam)
30. The Just (al-`Adl)
31. The Kindly One (al-Latif)
32. The Gracious, The Aware (al-Khabir)
33. The Clement, The Forbearing (al-Halim)
34. The Mighty (al-`Azim)
35. The Forgiving (al-Ghafur)
36. The Grateful, The Appreciative (al-Shakur)
37. The High, The Sublime (al-`Aliyy)
38. The Great (al-Kabir)
39. The Preserver (al-Hafiz)
40. The Protector, The Guardian, The Feeder, The Sustainer (al-Muqit)
41. The Reckoner (al-Hasib)
42. The Sublime One (al-Jali)
43. The Bountiful, The Gracious (al-Karim)
44. The Watcher, The Watchful (al-Raqib)
45. The Responsive, The Hearkener (al-Mujib)
46. The Infinite, The All-Embracing (al-Wasi`)
47. The Wise (al-Hakim al-Mutlaq)
48. The Loving (al-Wadud)
49. The Glorious (al-Majid)
50. The Resurrector (al-Ba`ith)
51. The Witness (al-Shahid)
52. The True (al-Haqq)
53. The Advocate (al-Wakil)
54. The Most Strong (al-Qawiyy)
55. The Firm (al-Matin)
56. The Patron (al-Waliyy)
57. The Praiseworthy (al-Hamid)
58. The Numberer (al-Muhsi)
59. The Commencer (al-Mubdi)
60. The Restorer (al-Mu`id)
61. The Giver of Life (al-Muhyi)
62. The One Who Gives Death (al-Mumit)
63. The Living One (al-Hayy)
64. The Self-Subsisting (al-Qayyum)
65. The Perceiver (al-Wajid)
66. The One (al-Wahid)
67. The Independent (al-Samad)
68. The Powerful (al-Qadir)
69. The Dominant (al-Muqtadir)
70. The Giver (al-Muqaddim)
71. The Retarder (al-Mu'akhkhir)
72. The First (al-Awwal)
73. The Last (al-Akhir)
74. The Manifest (al-Zahir)
75. The Hidden (al-Batin)
76. The Governor (al-Wali)
77. The High Exalted (al-Muta`ali)
78. The Righteous (al-Barr)
79. The Relenting (al-Tawwab)
80. The Forgiver (al-`Afuww)
81. The Avenger (al-Muntaquim)
82. The Compassionate (al-Ra'uf)
83. The Ruler of the Kingdom (Malik al-Mulk)
84. The Lord of Majesty and Bounty (Dhu'l-Jalal wa'l-Ikram)
85. The Equitable (al-Muqsit)
86. The Gatherer, The Collector (al-Jami`)
87. The Self-Sufficient (al-Ghani)
88. The Enricher (al-Mughni)
89. The Bestower (al-Mu`ti)
90. The Withholder (al-Mani`)
91. The Propitious (al-Nafi`)
92. The Distresser (al-Darr)
93. The Light (al-Nur)
94. The Guide (al-Hadi)
95. The Eternal (al-Azali)
96. The Everlasting (al-Baqi)
97. The Heir (al-Warith)
98. The Guide to the Right Path (al-Rashid)
99. The Patient (al-Sabur)
 
Scents of Jannah said:
Allah. He who has Godhood - the power to create all entities.

If they need a break down then..


1. Allah
2. The Compassionate (al-Rahman)
3. The Merciful (al-Rahim)
4. The King/Sovereign (al-Malik)
5. The Holy (al-Quddus)
6. The Source of Peace (al-Salam)
7. The Giver of Faith (al-Mu'min)
8. The Overall Protector (al-Muhaimin)
9. The Strong (al-`Aziz)
10. The Almighty (al-Jabbar)
11. The Majestic (al-Mutakabbir)
12. The Creator (al-Khaliq)
13. The Maker (al-Bari')
14. The Fashioner (al-Musawwir)
15. The Great Forgiver (al-Ghaffar)
16. The Dominant (al-Qahhar)
17. The Bestower (al-Wahhab)
18. The Provider (al-Razzaq)
19. The Opener, The Reliever (al-Fattah)
20. The All-Knowing (al-`Alim)
21. The Restrainer, The Withholder (al-Qabid)
22. The Extender (al-Basit)
23. The Humbler (al-Khafid)
24. The Exalter (al-Rafi`)
25. The Empowerer (al-Mu`izz)
26. The Humiliator (al-Mudhill)
27. The All-Hearing, The Hearer (al-Sami`)
28. The All-Seeing (al-Basir)
29. The Judge (al-Hakam)
30. The Just (al-`Adl)
31. The Kindly One (al-Latif)
32. The Gracious, The Aware (al-Khabir)
33. The Clement, The Forbearing (al-Halim)
34. The Mighty (al-`Azim)
35. The Forgiving (al-Ghafur)
36. The Grateful, The Appreciative (al-Shakur)
37. The High, The Sublime (al-`Aliyy)
38. The Great (al-Kabir)
39. The Preserver (al-Hafiz)
40. The Protector, The Guardian, The Feeder, The Sustainer (al-Muqit)
41. The Reckoner (al-Hasib)
42. The Sublime One (al-Jali)
43. The Bountiful, The Gracious (al-Karim)
44. The Watcher, The Watchful (al-Raqib)
45. The Responsive, The Hearkener (al-Mujib)
46. The Infinite, The All-Embracing (al-Wasi`)
47. The Wise (al-Hakim al-Mutlaq)
48. The Loving (al-Wadud)
49. The Glorious (al-Majid)
50. The Resurrector (al-Ba`ith)
51. The Witness (al-Shahid)
52. The True (al-Haqq)
53. The Advocate (al-Wakil)
54. The Most Strong (al-Qawiyy)
55. The Firm (al-Matin)
56. The Patron (al-Waliyy)
57. The Praiseworthy (al-Hamid)
58. The Numberer (al-Muhsi)
59. The Commencer (al-Mubdi)
60. The Restorer (al-Mu`id)
61. The Giver of Life (al-Muhyi)
62. The One Who Gives Death (al-Mumit)
63. The Living One (al-Hayy)
64. The Self-Subsisting (al-Qayyum)
65. The Perceiver (al-Wajid)
66. The One (al-Wahid)
67. The Independent (al-Samad)
68. The Powerful (al-Qadir)
69. The Dominant (al-Muqtadir)
70. The Giver (al-Muqaddim)
71. The Retarder (al-Mu'akhkhir)
72. The First (al-Awwal)
73. The Last (al-Akhir)
74. The Manifest (al-Zahir)
75. The Hidden (al-Batin)
76. The Governor (al-Wali)
77. The High Exalted (al-Muta`ali)
78. The Righteous (al-Barr)
79. The Relenting (al-Tawwab)
80. The Forgiver (al-`Afuww)
81. The Avenger (al-Muntaquim)
82. The Compassionate (al-Ra'uf)
83. The Ruler of the Kingdom (Malik al-Mulk)
84. The Lord of Majesty and Bounty (Dhu'l-Jalal wa'l-Ikram)
85. The Equitable (al-Muqsit)
86. The Gatherer, The Collector (al-Jami`)
87. The Self-Sufficient (al-Ghani)
88. The Enricher (al-Mughni)
89. The Bestower (al-Mu`ti)
90. The Withholder (al-Mani`)
91. The Propitious (al-Nafi`)
92. The Distresser (al-Darr)
93. The Light (al-Nur)
94. The Guide (al-Hadi)
95. The Eternal (al-Azali)
96. The Everlasting (al-Baqi)
97. The Heir (al-Warith)
98. The Guide to the Right Path (al-Rashid)
99. The Patient (al-Sabur)
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His Birth Record must be very long
 
I would describe Allah as he has described himself in Surah Al-Fatihah, verse number 2.

He is the Rabb of all that exists. I suppose you could translate Rabb as Lord but, in reality, that word fails to capture the entire meaning of the word Rabb.

English is so limited when compared to Arabic.
 
crayon said:
He begets not, nor was He begotten 112:3
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He is Allah, the One! (1) Allah, the eternally Besought of all! (2) He begetteth not nor was begotten. (3) And there is none comparable unto Him. (4)
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I kinda figured he would not be begotten, like the Christian God, and I assume the Jewish God is, I was just making a joke, thanks for the correction.
 
Yeah I know it wasn't meant to be serious, I was just sayin'.
 
Clover said:
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That's your religion, not everyone's. The fact is, Allah is God, to Muslims. Not to Christians, Jews, Pagans, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, and others. That is why I said God to the Muslim people.
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Personally, and speaking as a Christian I disagree.
Allah is the arabic name for the God I believe in too. (Not all Muslims/Christians would agree with me, hence this is my personal understanding)

So I agree with 'Abd-al Latif's statement.
Whatever name or concept we attach to God, it doesn't make him any more or less that he is: He is God, always has been, always will be!
 
glo said:
Personally, and speaking as a Christian I disagree.
Allah is the arabic name for the God I believe in too. (Not all Muslims/Christians would agree with me, hence this is my personal understanding)

So I agree with 'Abd-al Latif's statement.
Whatever name or concept we attach to God, it doesn't make him any more or less that he is: He is God, always has been, always will be!
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Yes, but many Christians (around 85% I've talked with) say Allah is not their God, so I figured not to make that assumption when it might have offended someone. Sorry for making my other assumption if it offended you.

To your religion, yes, but not to others. That is my point. He is everything to you, but maybe not to the guy thats riding beside you on the bus.
 
Clover said:
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That's your religion, not everyone's. The fact is, Allah is God, to Muslims. Not to Christians, Jews, Pagans, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, and others. That is why I said God to the Muslim people. He is GOD to you, but not to me, and others. Yes, he is the ruler of all that exists, to Muslims, not to others. I am not demeaning Allah, I am simply stating a true statement. Allah is god, to Muslims.
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The word Allah is a unique name because the word Al (in Allah) means "The", "Only", "Exclusive" and the word Lah (in Allah) means The one worthy of worship and praise. So when you say Allah it makes compelte sense of what 'a' god should be and is.

Allah is the same Lord that created the Heavens and the Earth and everything in it alone, without assistance from another.

He is the One who sent Prophets and Messengers from Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus to Muhammad (pbub).

He is the same One who revealed the Torah to Moses and the Gospel to Jesus. And He is the same god mankind worship besides Him, even though it is He alone who responds to the call of the destressed.

From a purely rational view, there can only be 1 god. Muslims do not claim Allah to be their god which is some kind of mystical and ambigious god because He is Lord of all that exists and there is no other god besides Him.

Allah says:

...the Lord and Cherisher of Mankind,

The King (or Ruler) of Mankind,

The god (or judge) of Mankind,-

[Qur'an 114:1-3]

Clover said:
His Birth Record must be very long
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Oh really? Allah says:

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

And there is none like unto Him. [Qur'an: 122]
 
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'Abd-al Latif said:
The word Allah is a unique name because the word Al (in Allah) means "The", "Only", "Exclusive" and the word Lah (in Allah) means The one worthy of worship and praise. So when you say Allah it makes compelte sense of what 'a' god should be and is.

Allah is the same Lord that created the Heavens and the Earth and everything in it without assistance from another.

He is the One who sent Prophets and Messengers from Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus to Muhammad (pbub).

He is the One who revealed the Torah to Moses and the Gossiple to Jesus. And He is the same god mankind worship besides Him, even though it is He alone who responds to the call of the destressed.

From a purely rational view, there can only be 1 god. Muslims do not claim Allah to be their god which is some kind of mystical and ambigious god He is god of all that exists.

Allah says:

...the Lord and Cherisher of Mankind,

The King (or Ruler) of Mankind,

The god (or judge) of Mankind,-

[Qur'an 114:1-3]



Oh really? Allah says:

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

And there is none like unto Him. [Qur'an: 122]
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I know, I know, I know! Allah is god of everything, to MUSLIMS, not to some others, and that's my point, a point your helping me reinforce here, but seem to think your arguing it. I am not going to debate my point anymore, cause saying that over and over doesn't change it.

It was a joke, maybe you didn't catch that? O well, some jokes are meant to die without getting a laugh.

Muslim Woman said:
Salaam/Peace



U asked any Arab Christians ?
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I do not know, I never looked up their race/culture/nationality.
 
Salaam/Peace

Clover said:
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I do not know, I never looked up their race/culture/nationality.
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We must not hate or degrade anyone just because of his/her race / culture/ nationality but to understand their veiw , it's important to consider the background.

I remember , in the Catholic forum , when some Christians write that Allah is Satan etc ; then few protested & informed that they are Arab Christians & they call God as Allah.
 
Muslim Woman said:
Salaam/Peace



We must not hate or degrade anyone just because of his/her race / culture/ nationality but to understand their veiw , it's important to consider the background.

I remember , in the Catholic forum , when some Christians write that Allah is Satan etc ; then few protested & informed that they are Arab Christians & they call God as Allah.
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I do not look at the background cause usually people judge, so I kept myself away from the temptation of judging.

I have heard that same in a Catholic and a Protestant (but it was for all) forums. They usually said "Allah is not God, Allah is a different God, that the Muslims believe is our god". I believe Christians (the ones that see it that way) see that cause Muhammed came after the Bible was written, so they see it as a fake religion, because its much younger. No offense meant to Islam, just stating my opinoin on their reasoning, and I was told this was the reason of some, by themselves.
 
Clover said:
Yes, but many Christians (around 85% I've talked with) say Allah is not their God, so I figured not to make that assumption when it might have offended someone. Sorry for making my other assumption if it offended you.

To your religion, yes, but not to others. That is my point. He is everything to you, but maybe not to the guy thats riding beside you on the bus.
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Don't worry, I'm not offended at all. I still think that the Abrahamic religions at least all worship the same God, but that thei human concept of that same God is very different (if that makes sense ...)
And no, I cannot speak for that guy next to me on the bus. He may have very different views indeed, and that is his right.

Oh, and sorry about the cut off rep ... I hadn't quite finished the sentence.
Hence this post for further information.
 
thanks for beautiful replies

I want to answer my question from Quran

because

Allah says;

''...Nothing have We omitted from the Book...'' Quran,6:38

so my answer is:

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95. It is Allah Who causeth the seed-grain and the date-stone to split and sprout. He causeth the living to issue from the dead, and He is the One to cause the dead to issue from the living. That is Allah: then how are ye deluded away from the truth?

96. He it is that cleaveth the day-break (from the dark): He makes the night for rest and tranquillity, and the sun and moon for the reckoning (of time): Such is the judgment and ordering of (Him), the Exalted in Power, the Omniscient.

97. It is He Who maketh the stars (as beacons) for you, that ye may guide yourselves, with their help, through the dark spaces of land and sea: We detail Our Signs for people who know.

98. It is He Who hath produced you from a single soul: then there is a nesting place and a repository: We detail Our Signs for people who understand.

99. It is He Who sendeth down rain from the skies: with it We produce vegetation of all kinds: from some We produce green (crops), out of which We produce grain, heaped up (at harvest); out of the date-palm and its sheaths (or spathes) (come) clusters of dates hanging low and near: and (then there are) gardens of grapes, and olives, and pomegranates, each similar (in kind) yet different (in variety): when they begin to bear fruit, feast your eyes with the fruit and the ripeness thereof. Behold! in these things there are Signs for people who believe.

100. Yet they make the Jinns equals with Allah, though Allah did create the Jinns; and they falsely, having no knowledge, attribute to Him sons and daughters. Praise and glory be to Him! (for He is) above what they attribute to Him!

101. Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.

102. That is Allah, your Lord! there is no god but He, the Creator of all things: then worship ye Him: and He hath power to dispose of all affairs.

103. No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is Subtle well-aware (of all things).

104. "Now have come to you, from your Lord, proofs (to open your eyes): if any will see, it will be for (the good of) his own soul; if any will be blind, it will be to his own (harm): I am not (here) to watch over your doings."

...''
Quran,6:95-104
 
glo said:
Don't worry, I'm not offended at all. I still think that the Abrahamic religions at least all worship the same God, but that thei human concept of that same God is very different (if that makes sense ...)
And no, I cannot speak for that guy next to me on the bus. He may have very different views indeed, and that is his right.

Oh, and sorry about the cut off rep ... I hadn't quite finished the sentence.
Hence this post for further information.
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I wouldn't call it human concept, I'd call it different sources for the same god. Muslims have the Quran, Christians have the Bible, Jews have the Torah. They are all different sources, to the same God, is that what your saying?