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Hello I have not yet converted, but for the past 6 months I have been reading and studying about Islam. Recently I have gotten to the point where I will spend hours each day online reading about the rules, interpretations of the Quran, Hadith, etc. The problem is that I'll read something written by Muslims and feel great about Islam, then I'll come across a Christian website and all my doubts about Islam are revived. I feel like I'm not really getting anywhere in terms of increasing my imam.

Any reverts, or Muslims from birth, go through something similar to this? It is getting in the way of my studying for medical school, however, I keep tellilng mysellf that finding the truth is more important than anything in this world. I wish I could just believe completely and fully...but I still have doubts in my mind.

Thank you.
Christina
 
Hey, you know, I ended up leaving college, cos I feel islam is for me more important and because of the way I had been brought up I found that I'd spend more time on academical stuf than studying Islam.

Can I pm you, for the rest of the answers? Feel free to say no.
 
I know how you feel Chris... Im addicted too just like you and have been for a long time now - reading everything and anything i can get my hands on. i have read numerous books and pamphlets that were either given to me generously or i have bought or borrowed from my local library - and ever since i was referred to this site i have spent hours every night this week checking it all out and i still want more more more.

I can't believe the amount thirst i have for Islam. And when i read or discover something new about it i get all excited as if i were the first in the world to know about it. lol.
 
Hello, yes please feel free to PM me.

Thanks for the responses its nice to know there are others out there who feel the same. I am studying medicine so I try to look at it as studying somethng incredible that Allah has created, but sometimes I just cannot focus.

Its tough, but I guess its part of the whole thing of leaving this world behind.

Have you guys converted yet?

Christina
 
I havent as yet ... though its something ill probably will be doing soon. At the moment im looking into the practise side of things - i have been recently introduced to some sisters and have been asking heaps of questions about the women side of things
 
My advice for you would be to pray to God and turn to Him as much as you can. He is the one that guides. So ask Him to help and guide you, and then be patient.

Secondly, if the Christian websites cause your doubts to be revived, I would recommend you to simply avoid all of the polemic and focus on Islams main teaching: tawhid. Tawhid is what Islam is all about.
 
Thanks for the PMs, but please note I cannot PM you back as I'm not a full member yet!
 
Hello Chris and Welcome to the forum. I've only been a revert for about a year and a half. It took me nearly 50 years to discover that I was born Muslim and I finaly returned home.

Your feelings are quite normal. There are many misconceptions about Islam and to accept Islam we do need to sort out the misconceptions from the facts.

I assume you are/were a Christian. Once you "feel" the message of Islam you will understand that being a Muslim is not against the true teachings of Jesus(swt). Islam is the fulfillment of the truth.

My reverting came very sudden once I "felt" the truth.
 
I think these feelings are a sign of God stirring our hearts.

I remember feeling very much like that before I became a Christian: I devoured everything I could get my hands on regarding Christianity. I sat up at night, reading the gospel. And I wanted to be with other people who shared my faith all the time. I just wanted more, more, more.
There was a real buzz, a real excitement about God touching my heart and calling me!
I think I will remember this expression: Being addicted to God! That's brilliant!

Christina and Angel, welcome both to LI.
May you find what you are seeking, and may you walk with God.



Peace
 
Welcome to Islaam.


Islaam is a religion which take's years upon years to understand it's every aspect, it has many different fields and sciences, and reflecting on and excelling in the different fields is a great achievement. Throughout one's life, a persons faith may wear out 'like clothes wear out' as the Messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him) said. This is natural, and this is why the Messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him) said in the same hadith that one should ask Allaah to strengthen their faith.



On my opinion you guys should accept islaam immediately, you know it's the truth and you also know that there will be many bridges on the way. These bridges will have to be crossed anyway, but if you submit to Allaah - He will help you through this straight clear path. Even if hardships come, or even if you see something you become confused about, realise that you will also face that as muslims - but knowledge and faith (emaan) will overcome that confusion.

You will be rewarded for your efforts because even the best of muslims learnt different aspects of islaam (i.e. some scholars mastered fiqh (deriving laws from the Qur'an and Authentic Sunnah, yet they never mastered other aspects such as hadith etc.) Yet they were muslims and were rewarded greatly for their works insha'Allaah (God willing.)


Similarly, you guys will learn about islaam insha'Allaah, and you will also see many obstacles on the way. But by accepting islaam, you will be rewarded for your works, and you can even put it into practise with Allaah Almighty on your side. You know you want that, and there's nothing stopping you from taking that first step insha'Allaah. Take that first step towards Allaah Almighty, and He will take many more steps towards you.


That's just my humble opinion.



Allaah Almighty knows best.



Peace.
 
Welcome to the forum and Islam Well almost there...

My only suggestion is that you focus on the religion your learning.... Once you've learnt much as you can and have a good idea of what Islam teaches... and then read what christianity teaches... you'll realize that they are very similar like brother woodrow said..

But focus on one at a time... study islam until you think you know more than the average muslim... and the proper rulings on certain things... and if it makes sense to you... go for it

Try to stay away from sites that bash religions... because they are all misquoted and just nonsense... not what you need to read right now especially.

Take your time.... but keep in mind the life is short... so dont take too long lol
 
Thank you so much for the replys...yes I see that they are very similiar (and similar to Judiasm in my humble opinion).

I am scared of taking that final leap I guess...I read somewhere that this can be a tatic of Satan..ie: getting so caught up in the little rules that you lose the path of God...I have lots to think about this weekend
 
I remember a character which may have a powerful impact on a person who has to take that final leap, but isn't sure whether islaam they should take it or not. [Hope you don't find it too long]


Hamzah was fully aware of the greatness of his nephew and of the truth he came with. He used to know him not only as a nephew, but also as a brother and friend because they both belonged to the same generation. They always played together and walked together on the same road of life step by step. But in their youth they departed, each one in his own way: Hamzah preferred the life of leisure, trying to take his place among the prominent leaders of the Quraish and Makkah, while Muhammad chose the life of seclusion away from the crowd, immersed in the deep spiritual meditation that prepared him to receive the truth.

Despite the fact that each of them had a different way of living out his own youth, Hamzah was always attentive to the virtues of his friend and nephew. Such virtues helped Muhammad to win a special place in the hearts of people and helped to draw a clear outline for his great future.



The next day, Hamzah went out as usual. At the Ka'bah he found a number of Quraishi noblemen. He sat with them, listening to what they had to say: they were talking about Muhammad. For the first time .Hamzah saw them worried about the call his nephew was propagating with a tone of bitterness and rage marking their voices. Before that, they had never paid attention - at least they had pretended not to do so - but on that day their faces looked perplexed, upset, and aggressive.

Hamzah laughed at their talks and accused them of exaggeration. Abu Jahl said to his companions that Hamzah was the best one to know the danger of his nephew's call and that he pretended to underestimate this danger till the Quraish would relax so much that when they awakened it would be after his nephew had complete control over them.

They kept talking and threatening while Hamzah sat, sometimes smiling, sometimes frowning. When they dispersed his head was full of new ideas about the issues of his nephew that they had discussed in his presence.



Days passed and the Quraish's whispering about the Prophet's call increased. Later, whispering turned into provocation and Hamzah watched from a distance. His nephew's composed, steadfast attitude towards their provocations puzzled him. Such an attitude was quite unfamiliar to the Bani Quraish, who were themselves known to be strong and challenging.

If doubts of the greatness and truth of Muhammad could steal into anyone's heart, they would have never stolen into Hamzah's heart, because he was the best one to know Muhammad from his early childhood to his youth, then to his proud, honest manhood. Hamzah knew Muhammad as he knew himself and maybe more. Since they had come into life together, grown up together, and attained full strength together, Muhammad's life had been as pure and clear as the sunlight. It never occurred to Hamzah that Muhammad could make an error or a doubtful act in his life. He never saw Muhammad angry, hopeless , greedy, careless, or unstable.



Hamzah was not only physically strong, but was also wise and strong-willed. Therefore, it was natural for him to follow a man in whose honesty and truthfulness he wholeheartedly believed. Thus he kept a secret in his heart that was soon going to be disclosed.

Then came the day. Hamzah went out of his house towards the desert carrying his bow to practice his favorite sport of hunting (in which he was very skilled). He spent most of his day there. On his way home he passed by the Ka'bah as usual, to circumambulate it.




Near the Ka'bah, a female servant of 'Abd Allah Ibn Jud'aan saw him and said, "O Abu 'Umaarah! You haven't seen what happened to your nephew at the hands of Abu Al-Hakam Ibn Hishaam. When he saw Muhammad sitting there, he hurt him and called him bad names and treated him in a way that he hated." She went on to explain what Abu Jahl had done to the Prophet of Allah.

Hamzah listened to her carefully and paused for a while, then with his right hand he picked up his bow and put it on his shoulder. He walked with fast, steady steps towards the Ka'bah, hoping to meet Abu Jahl there. He decided that if he did not find him, he would search for him everywhere till he did.



As soon as he reached the Ka'bah he glanced at Abu Jahl sitting in the yard in the middle of the Quraishi noblemen. Hamzah advanced very calmly towards Abu Jahl and hit him with his bow on the head till it broke the skin and bled. To everybody's surprise, Hamzah shouted: "You dare to insult Muhammad while I follow his religion and I say what he says? Come and retaliate upon me. Hit me if you can." In a moment they all forgot how their leader Abu Jahl had been insulted and they were all thunderstruck by the news that Hamzah had converted to Muhammad's religion and that he saw what Muhammad saw and said what he said. Could Hamzah really have converted to Islam when he was the strongest and most dignified Quraishi young man?

Such was the overwhelming disaster to which the Quraish were helpless, because Hamzah's conversion would attract others from the elite to do the same. Thus Muhammad's call would be supported, and he would find enough solidarity that the Quraish might wake up one day to find their idols being pulled down.

Indeed, Hamzah had converted, and he announced what he had kept secret in his heart for so long.


Again Hamzah picked up his bow, put it on his shoulder, and with steady steps and full strength left the place with everyone looking disappointed and Abu Jahl licking the blood flowing from his wounded head.

Hamzah possessed a sharp sight and clear consciousness. He went home, and after he had relaxed from the day's exhaustion he sat down to think over what had happened. He had announced it in a moment of indignation and rage. He hated to see his nephew getting insulted and suffering injustice with no one to help him. Such racial zeal for the honour of Bani Haashim's talk had made him hit Abu Jahl on the head and shout declaring his Islam. But was that the ideal way for anyone to change the religion of his parents and ancestors and to embrace a new religion whose teachings he had not yet become familiar with and whose true reality he had not acquired sufficient knowledge of? It was true that Hamzah had never had any doubts about Muhammad's integrity, but could anybody embrace a new religion with all its responsibilities just in a moment of rage as Hamzah had done?



It was true that he had always kept in his heart a great respect for the new call his nephew was carrying and its banner, but what should the right time have been to embrace this religion if he was destined to embrace it? Should it be a moment of indignation and anger or a moment of deep reflection? Thus he was inspired by a clear consciousness to reconsider the whole situation in light of strict and meticulous thinking.


Hamzah started thinking. He spent many restless days and sleepless nights. When one tries to attain the truth by the power of mind, uncertainty will become a means of knowledge, and this is what happened to Hamzah. Once he used his mind to search Islam and to weigh between the old religion and the new one, he started to have doubts raised by his innate inherited nostalgia for his father's religion and by the natural fear of anything new. All his memories of the Ka'bah, the idols, the statues and the high religious status these idols bestowed on the Quraish and Makkah were raised.


It appeared to him that denying all this history and the ancient religion was like a big chasm, which had to be crossed. Hamzah was amazed at how a man could depart from the religion of his father that early and that fast. He regretted what he had done but he went on with the journey of reasonable thinking. But at that moment, he realized that his mind was not enough and that he should resort sincerely to the unseen power. At the Ka'bah he prayed and supplicated to heaven, seeking help from every light that existed in the universe to be guided to the right path.

Let us hear him narrating his own story: I regretted having departed from the religion of my father and kin, and I was in a terrible state of uncertainty and could not sleep. I came to the Ka'bah and supplicated to Allah to open my heart to what was right and to eliminate all doubts from it. Allah answered my prayer and filled my heart with faith and certainty. In the morning I went to the Prophet (PBUH) informing him about myself, and he prayed to Allah that He may keep my heart stable in this religion.
In this way Hamzah converted to Islam, the religion of certainty.



more on the life of Hamzah:
http://www.islamicboard.com/biographies-islamic-figures/4989-hamzah-ibn-abdul-muttallib.html?=Hamzah



The main thing you have to do is to pray to Allaah sincerely, especially when you have the least amount of worldly distractions, maybe even in prostration? And ask Allaah sincerely to guide you, to place you on the straight path and to keep you firm on it.

If you are sincere, Allaah will place that faith in your heart and you will see a change in your life insha'Allaah. Allaah loves those who put their trust in Him.




Allaah Almighty knows best.



Peace.
 
Hi Christina

I have been thinking about your post ... and actually got out of bed again to post this reply - just to find that you are logged on too!

I always feel a little awkward when I - as a Christian - give advice to converts (or nearly-converts) to Islam ... and I want you to know that I respect your choice, and I have no desire to sway your opinion, whatever it may be.

In the time I have been in this forum, I have found that you cannot really sit on the fence between Christianity and Islam!
The central person between both faiths is Jesus,and you need to be clear on where you stand with him:
Was he a simple guy, a mythical figure, a prophet of God or is he God himself?

You will get many opinions, and many convincing arguments for all of these possibilities ... so I would advise you to search for the answer in you own heart.
Get with God, and ask him to guide you!!

For me, as a born-again Christian, who has committed her life to Jesus Christ, it seems quite impossible to see Jesus as anybody else but God - but I know people in this forum have made that switch, so it is possible!

I will tell you a short story:
Before I became a Christian, I was quite interested in paganism.
I had read much about it, and found much of it very appealing and interesting.
But when I came to try to pray to these various gods and goddesses, I found myself totally unable to do so! I just couldn't!
No words came out, and I became repulsed at the sheer thought of praying in such a way.


What I am trying to say, is that by the end of the day it was God's guidance, and his stirring of my heart that made me turn away and choose a different path ...

I pray that God will guide you, and that you will walk with him always!
And have a great weekend!

Peace
 
The story of Hamzah is beautiful and completly new to me...thank you.

Glo - Thank you for the advice. It seems that everyones advice comes down to prayer...I have been praying for guidance but I know I need to be patient.

Also, Glo, if you don't mind me asking you, why does a Christian spend so much time on Muslim message boards? It just kind of surprised me.
 
Glo - Thank you for the advice. It seems that everyones advice comes down to prayer...I have been praying for guidance but I know I need to be patient.
Yep!
Also, Glo, if you don't mind me asking you, why does a Christian spend so much time on Muslim message boards? It just kind of surprised me.
Tee hee, that's a good question ... :giggling:

I live in a town with a fairly high number of Muslims, and I have found it increasingly frustrating that I do not know how to communicate and interact with them. The Muslim community here seems to keep itself very much to itself - so how was I to learn about their beliefs and customs??
So I came here to learn more about Islam.

The reasons I am still here are
  • There is more to learn about Islam than I had anticipated! :rollseyes
    [*]I have come across many misconceptions and misunderstanding about my faith, which I would like to clarify and explain, to gain better mutual understanding and respect for each other's faiths.
    [*]I have met lovely people and made many friends!
    [*]But perhaps most importantly, I have found a real heart for some of the young people here, who are struggling with their lives, their faith, and their friends' and families' reactions to it. I guess my maternal instincts sometimes get the better of me ...

Welcome on board, anyway.

peace
 
Yes that sounds wonderful. We should all hope to see open and understanding.

I'm from the states and the one thing I have learned in this journey is that people in my country are really lacking God in their lives...in any form. Its very sad really, and IMHO has caused a lot of problems in our society. At least where I am from being of strong faith, in any faith, labels you a wacko.

My friends and family are MUCH more concerned about me now that I am home at night studying religion than before when I was out drunk at a dance club. I find that aspect frustrating :-\

Thanks for your support.

BTW I just wanted to say that I have been reading about Islam online for about 6 months now, and I don't know how I missed this site. It is by far the best I have found. Thank you everyone!
 
I'm from the states and the one thing I have learned in this journey is that people in my country are really lacking God in their lives...in any form. Its very sad really, and IMHO has caused a lot of problems in our society. At least where I am from being of strong faith, in any faith, labels you a wacko.
Yes, it's the same here in the UK. :uhwhat
Unfortunately, fanatics in all religions add greatly to that perception - and it seems to take the peaceful actions and love of many believers to undo the damage caused by a few misguided fanatics!

Peace