Afghan, Mother and Daughter stoned and shot to death

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What about the many women and daughters killed by the Americans and co.
 
If they deserve it, then justice was done.
I don't want to see Afghanistan a country where adultery is the norm.
 
I don't believe the story to be true.. I think it is smoke & mirror from the trouble the U.S finds itself in with Afghanistan and other nations. It wants to display the image of being a good guy and that they're needed in the region with such scandals as U.S soldiers killing civilians and collecting their body parts as souvenirs, or killing them and pining it on the taliban. The news belongs to them and they can color it any which way they like. If we want the real news we should get it straight from Afghanistan's Taliban or citizens not FOX, BBC, CNN etc.

my two cents..

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Interesting that the whole news story is based on this:

security officials have told the BBC.

There is no one else to verify it. There are no eyewitnesses or family members or neighbours spoken to by the reporter. The security officials could have taken the reporter, in secret if need be, to speak to them.

If I rang the BBC and said I wanted to report something of horrendous magnitude, without proof, they would not take my word for it, and it would not make the news.

We should not be quick to believe such stories, and we are instructed to verify news and ascertain it's truth before believing in it.
 
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Interesting that the whole news story is based on this:



There is no one else to verify it. There are no eyewitnesses or family members or neighbours spoken to by the reporter. The security officials could have taken the reporter, in secret if need be, to speak to them.

If I rang the BBC and said I wanted to report something of horrendous magnitude, without proof, they would not take my word for it, and it would not make the news.

We should not be quick to believe such stories, and we are instructed to verify news and ascertain it's truth before believing in it.

I am of that opinion myself respected sis.. Everything is so contrived and perfectly timed.. any negative western story has to be countered with a negative Muslim story..
May Allah swt keep us safe from the tribulations of our time..

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It is GOD who tells us who deserves to be stoned or not.
But I can see that you have been conditioned to have an extreme point of view.

I'm extreme? Allah did not judge these people. Men did and men can be wrong.
 
I'm extreme? Allah did not judge these people. Men did and men can be wrong.
What about Qur'an and sunnah.
Then we should release murderers and rapists too.
I guess GOD was wrong after all (astgfer allah).
And I don't see that extremism should always involve violence
 
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Big difference in this case. If it's true, then they didn't get a trial. They were attacked in the middle of the night and dragged out to be killed, based on what? Who's testimony was given? The Qur'an specifically says we must have witnesses, or we shall face punishment.
 
Big difference in this case. If it's true, then they didn't get a trial. They were attacked in the middle of the night and dragged out to be killed, based on what? Who's testimony was given? The Qur'an specifically says we must have witnesses, or we shall face punishment.

That is why I said if they deserve it.
And how do you know what the BBC says is the truth.
How do you know that everything went without trial. how can I be sure they weren't the victims of the invading army.
GOD told us in the Qur'an to check news coming from people who are suspicious.
 
i have to agree here,,, as the brother wrote they were dragged from their homes....were 4 witnesses found were the ygiven a trial...i dont think so....they were suspected not proven to have committed a crime,...and it seems noone cares

its terrble what the americans do ,yes,but if this is true this does not make this any less bad

people like to turn things against the west,,, if there is any criticism of muslims

such cases as this do happen,we have to change islam from within if we want the world to have good view of islam
 
esperanza, 'we change islam from within'? But isn't Islam from Allah who is perfect?
 
esperanza, 'we change islam from within'? But isn't Islam from Allah who is perfect?

I guess she wants to turn Islam into Christianity part two.
GOD gives us solutions and we make things worse by trying to change it to either satisfy our desires or fearing society's reaction.
Most of us are under the pressure of society trying to make sense out of the illusion that was kept in front our eyes without trying to defy the taboo of the society.
Not relising that the very taboo is the illusion. A taboo that was made into moral system that enslaves humans by their very own will. A pseudo moral that was enforced on us to control us by the man-gods that some Muslims unfortunately take them in a higher status than the true GOD. Morals that have no positive impact on our reality and most of the time the affects are disastrous. But I guess as long as it satisfy our conditioned hearts then the man-gods are always right.
 
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What about Qur'an and sunnah.
Then we should release murderers and rapists too.
I guess GOD was wrong after all (astgfer allah).
And I don't see that extremism should always involve violence

That's what prisons are for. Because most crimes have a doubt. There's rarely guilt beyond ANY doubt. In fact, community service would have sufficed. Adultery is between the sinners and God, not the state.
 
whatever - i thought you were jewish?

There shall be no wh0re of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deuteronomy 23:17

it seems they have and encourage both now - netanyahu even visits gay clubs.
and the seks shops are obviously to encourage piety in the holy land.

Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city;
and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.
Deut 22:24

Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. 6At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. 7The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.
Deut 17:5-7

Netanyahu visits Tel Aviv gay center
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Head of Israel's youth Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Association, Yaniv Weizman said at the end of the meeting, "Things have changed. The prime minister has expressed his support. The prime minister's message is very clear, a message of support of the community.

"We expect a ministerial committee, full equal rights for the community, and that our relationships are not outlawed. Another thing is education, education, education, curbing homophobia, and the third thing is the whole matter of incitement....

also see this:

http://www.gaytelaviv.net/english/

Internationally, the most common destinations for victims of human trafficking are
Thailand
, Japan, Israel, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Italy, Turkey and the US, according to a report by the UNODC (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime).

The major sources of trafficked persons include Thailand, China, Nigeria, Albania, Bulgaria, Belarus, Moldova, and Ukraine.
Prostitution laws have been argued to affect trafficking flows

Prostitution legal, but procuring illegal

In these countries there is no specific law prohibiting the exchange of sex for money, but in general most forms of procuring are illegal. These countries also generally have laws against soliciting in a public place (e.g., a street) or advertising prostitution, making it difficult to engage in prostitution without breaking any law.
 
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