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Hey I'm a soon to be revert. I've been studying and reading a lot...i ran across this group. Any thoughts?
 
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I mean what's the difference between Islam and Ahmadiyya Muslim Community?
 
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Oh I understand now .

Sunnis and Ahmadis are two sects of muslims.Though the two sects believe in Quran and Mohammed, the two sects are different in many respects, inluding their beliefs. Sunnis, also known as Ahl as-Sunnah or Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jama’h, are the largest denomination of the-Islamcommunity.

When compared to the Ahmadis, the Sunnis are considered to be more orthodox. One of the-major-differences that can be seen between the Sunni and Ahmadi is in the prophethood. Ahmedias do not believe that Mohammed is the last prophet. They believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed of Qadian is the prophet who is supposed to come. This is a great violation of Islam, which considers Muhammed as the the last prophet. On the other hand, Sunnis believe in Prophet Mohammed.


While the Sunni-sect-has a long history, the Ahmadia movement was founded only in 1889. The Sunnis believe that Prophet Muhammed did not appoint any successor to lead the community before his death. After Mohammed’s death, a group of his prominent followers elected Abu Bakr Siddique (prophet’s father-in-law) as the first caliph.

The Ahmadia movement was founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He claimed to be the promised Mahdi awaited by the Muslims and the Messiah of Christ. The Ahmadis believe in the revival and propogation of Islam.




1. Sunnis are the largest denomination of Islam community.

2. Ahmedias do not believe Mohammed as the last prophet. They believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed of Qadian is the prophet who is supposed to come. Sunnis believe in Prophet Mohammed.

3. When compared to the Ahmadias, the Sunnis are considered to be more orthodox.

4. While the Sunni sect has a long history, the Ahmadia movement was founded only in 1889.

5. The Ahmadia movement was founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He claimed to be the promised Mahdi awaited by the Muslims and the Messiah of Christ.

6. Sunni is a word that is derived from Sunnah, which means teachings of Prohet Mohammed. Though Ahmadia was formed in the 19th century, the name was only adopted a decade later.
 
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Ahmadis do not believe that Muhammad :saws: is the last and final Messenger of Allah. They believe in a false dajjal, hence they are not Muslims.
 
So , in conclusion , you should join the sunni . That believe Muhammad saw is the final messenger .
There are a lot of differet sect but if you are foung to convert inshallah then join the Sunni that is the true one .
 
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Muslimah inshal said:
Oh I understand now .

Sunnis and Ahmadis are two sects of muslims.Though the two sects believe in Quran and Mohammed, the two sects are different in many respects, inluding their beliefs. Sunnis, also known as Ahl as-Sunnah or Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jama’h, are the largest denomination of the-Islamcommunity.

When compared to the Ahmadis, the Sunnis are considered to be more orthodox. One of the-major-differences that can be seen between the Sunni and Ahmadi is in the prophethood. Ahmedias do not believe that Mohammed is the last prophet. They believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed of Qadian is the prophet who is supposed to come. This is a great violation of Islam, which considers Muhammed as the the last prophet. On the other hand, Sunnis believe in Prophet Mohammed.


While the Sunni-sect-has a long history, the Ahmadia movement was founded only in 1889. The Sunnis believe that Prophet Muhammed did not appoint any successor to lead the community before his death. After Mohammed’s death, a group of his prominent followers elected Abu Bakr Siddique (prophet’s father-in-law) as the first caliph.

The Ahmadia movement was founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He claimed to be the promised Mahdi awaited by the Muslims and the Messiah of Christ. The Ahmadis believe in the revival and propogation of Islam.




1. Sunnis are the largest denomination of Islam community.

2. Ahmedias do not believe Mohammed as the last prophet. They believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed of Qadian is the prophet who is supposed to come. Sunnis believe in Prophet Mohammed.

3. When compared to the Ahmadias, the Sunnis are considered to be more orthodox.

4. While the Sunni sect has a long history, the Ahmadia movement was founded only in 1889.

5. The Ahmadia movement was founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He claimed to be the promised Mahdi awaited by the Muslims and the Messiah of Christ.

6. Sunni is a word that is derived from Sunnah, which means teachings of Prohet Mohammed. Though Ahmadia was formed in the 19th century, the name was only adopted a decade later.
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Thank you so much my brother. I think I will follow the more orthodox form. Awesome information.
 
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The Qadiyaniyya/Ahmadiyya are a deviant religious movement who claim to be Muslims. It was founded in India near the end of the 19th century and originated with the life and teachings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani. He claimed that Rasūlullah Sallallahu ‘Alaihi wa Sallam was not the last messenger because of which he claimed prophet hood. The adherents of the Qadiyaniyya/Ahmadiyya movement are referred to as Qadiyanis or Ahmadis. They are divided into two groups: those who believe that he was a prophet and those who believe that he was only a reformist and saintly figure.

Mirza Ghulam held many corrupt beliefs, such as:


  • He claimed he was a prophet
  • He claimed that his prophet hood was prophesized in the previous divine scriptures
  • He would disparage the Ambiyā’
  • He asserted that his “miracles” were greater than that of Nūh ‘Alaihissalām.

Qadiyanies/Ahmadies are simply not Muslims.


And Allah Ta’āla Knows Best

Muntasir Zaman
Student Darul Iftaa
USA

Checked and Approved by,
Mufti Ebrahim Desai.
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Thank you brother!
 
Mu`awiyah b. Abi Sufiyan stood among us and said: Beware! The Apostle of Allah (ﷺ) stood among us and said: Beware! The people of the Book before were split up into seventy two sects, and this community will be split into seventy three: seventy two of them will go to Hell and one of them will go to Paradise, and it is the majority group.Ibn Yahya and `Amr added in their version:" There will appear among my community people who will be dominated by desires like rabies which penetrates its patient ",` Amr's version has: "penetrates its patient. There remains no vein and no joint but it penetrates it. "​

Sunan Abi Dawud 4597
Book 42, Hadith 2
Book 41, Hadith 4580

Source used: https://sunnah.com/abudawud/42/2
The majority group right now is the sunni Muslims as every act they follow is based on authentic sources (Qur'an & AUTHENTIC ahadith). Many people of other sects would say, i only say this because i am a sunni, however i don't brand myself a sunni, rather a Muslim who follows Allah and His messenger (which Allah tells us to follow in the Qur'an)

"O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result." Qur'an 4:59

In this case it is the Qur'an and AUTHENTIC ahadith.
 
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azc said:
they are kafir. It is not the matter of differences
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Well they being kafir or not kafir, there is a better approach to this right now as Muslims are not even united. In every thing there are 3 choice one could say. I agree, i disagree and i refrain from choosing either one of the two.

Just practice Islam according to the Qur'an and AUTHENTIC ahadith. If you see them, just refrain from branding them either one of the two. It is not your business to either say they are Muslims or not Muslim, they for sure will taste what they have worked for as every one of us will. If somebody might ask you, are they Muslims? Say in Islam we MUST follow Qur'an and AUTHENIC ahadith..so them being Muslims or not Muslim, is not my job to say either one of the two. They will get what they have worked for.

When the promised one arrives and whatever group or individuals of any groups not following him, automatically falls in category of non-Muslims then. So right now it is not the case and we rather should look at our own deeds and if Allah is pleased with us. Advising somebody is good, however if they are not asking your advice and know it clearly what is going on..then nothing more has to be said or done.

I see that we Muslims are TOOO preoccupied with pointing at people, while our own deeds and religious obligations stink from every side possible. A bit of self reflection and self criticism does wonders.
 
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Simple_Person said:
Well they being kafir or not kafir, there is a better approach to this right now as Muslims are not even united. In every thing there are 3 choice one could say. I agree, i disagree and i refrain from choosing either one of the two.

Just practice Islam according to the Qur'an and AUTHENTIC ahadith. If you see them, just refrain from branding them either one of the two. It is not your business to either say they are Muslims or not Muslim, they for sure will taste what they have worked for as every one of us will. If somebody might ask you, are they Muslims? Say in Islam we MUST follow Qur'an and AUTHENIC ahadith..so them being Muslims or not Muslim, is not my job to say either one of the two. They will get what they have worked for.

When the promised one arrives and whatever group or individuals of any groups not following him, automatically falls in category of non-Muslims then. So right now it is not the case and we rather should look at our own deeds and if Allah is pleased with us. Advising somebody is good, however if they are not asking your advice and know it clearly what is going on..then nothing more has to be said or done.

I see that we Muslims are TOOO preoccupied with pointing at people, while our own deeds and religious obligations stink from every side possible. A bit of self reflection and self criticism does wonders.
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That was so amazing well said. Thank you...i will always remember the meaning of what you're saying. Allah is so good!
 
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slave4Him said:
That was so amazing well said. Thank you...i will always remember the meaning of what you're saying. Allah is so good!
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brother as a potentially new muslim it is important that you understand the correct branding of such groups like ahmadiyyahs; contrary to what my brother simple-muslim says [ i think he is a new muslim too hence is more liberal minded] it is important to brand them as non-muslims; scholars even go as far as to say if we do not brand kufr [desbelief] as desbelief then we ourselves become kaafir hence there has to be a clear cut recognition and acknowledgement of non-muslims when we get to know of them!

Ahmadiyaahs are kaafirs brother and you should shout it out from the top of your lungs!!!! [metaphorically ofcourse as you dont want to disturb your neighbours with shouts! :Emoji47:]
 
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Simple_Person said:
Well they being kafir or not kafir, there is a better approach to this right now as Muslims are not even united. In every thing there are 3 choice one could say. I agree, i disagree and i refrain from choosing either one of the two.Just practice Islam according to the Qur'an and AUTHENTIC ahadith. If you see them, just refrain from branding them either one of the two. It is not your business to either say they are Muslims or not Muslim, they for sure will taste what they have worked for as every one of us will. If somebody might ask you, are they Muslims? Say in Islam we MUST follow Qur'an and AUTHENIC ahadith..so them being Muslims or not Muslim, is not my job to say either one of the two. They will get what they have worked for.When the promised one arrives and whatever group or individuals of any groups not following him, automatically falls in category of non-Muslims then. So right now it is not the case and we rather should look at our own deeds and if Allah is pleased with us. Advising somebody is good, however if they are not asking your advice and know it clearly what is going on..then nothing more has to be said or done.I see that we Muslims are TOOO preoccupied with pointing at people, while our own deeds and religious obligations stink from every side possible. A bit of self reflection and self criticism does wonders.
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almost all scholars of the ummah are unanimously agreed upon Qadiyanis being kafir. So finding any leeway of unity with this group is not possible.
 
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AbdullahAziz said:
brother as a potentially new muslim it is important that you understand the correct branding of such groups like ahmadiyyahs; contrary to what my brother simple-person says [ i think he is a new muslim too hence is more liberal minded] it is important to brand them as non-muslims; scholars even go as far as to say if we do not brand kufr [desbelief] as desbelief then we ourselves become kaafir hence there has to be a clear cut recognition and acknowledgement of non-muslims when we get to know of them!

Ahmadiyaahs are kaafirs brother and you should shout it out from the top of your lungs!!!! [metaphorically ofcourse as you dont want to disturb your neighbours with shouts! :Emoji47:]
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Thank you so much. I was approached by a member of the group on another social media outlet. He gave me a website to look over. I knew right away that it (their beliefs) was contrary to what I had been studying. I honestly did feel uncomfortable with the little I read on the groups site. Thank you all for helping me validate those feelings.
 
I think what Simple_Person is trying to say is that you should treat each person on a case by case basis. One can firmly state the Ahmadiyaah movement is unislamic and challenge any/all innovations made by this group, but also not disparage the people who claim to follow it if we don't see them doing something unislamic. It could be that a person identifies as Ahmadiyaah because of family/tradition, but has never done anything that goes against the Quran or sunnah. I have an acquaintance whose family is Ahmadiyaah, but as far as I know I've never seen him do something that sunnis would disapprove of. I guess one could say he's an Ahmadiyaah in name only but his actions are that of a sunni (as far as I know).

Like shias that I've talked to, who brought up the subject of sects, I make it clear that I don't place muslims into sub categories. If a person says they're muslim then I consider them muslim. If I were to see them do something that isn't in accordance with the quran or sunnah but hear them claim that it is in accordance, I would question/discuss the matter with them. Ask them what their justification for doing said acts are. Though this never happened, I'm speaking hypothetically as eventhough I met people who said they're from different sects I've never seen them do anything "different."
 
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