Ahmed Mohamed demands $15m compensation on clock arrest

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This is maybe going too far?

The family of Ahmed Mohamed, the Texan schoolboy who was arrested after taking a homemade clock to school, has demanded $15m in compensation and written apologies from the local mayor and police chief.

In letters sent on Monday, the lawyers said if the City of Irving and Irving School District did not agree to the apologies and compensation, they would file a civil action.

The letters demanded $10m to be paid to the family by the City of Irving, and $5m from the school district.

The letters said if officials failed to comply with the requests, the law firm would file a suit. There was no immediate response from the police department or the city.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...ation-for-homemade-clock-arrest-a6745706.html
 
Agreed. This is too much.
They already attracted huge attention and support. Ahmed received a lot of gifts.
Local mayor and police chief, as others who was involved into this, already lost their faces, everybody are laughing at them.
I would left everything as it is.

But family, being drived by greedy lawers or by themselves, decided to go further.
Now, they are adopting shamefull US practice of suing everybody around.
 
Hmm... Maybe the apology would be enough.

Plus maybe the court should order that his teacher has to write 100 times to the blackboard:

"I did wrong when I suspected Ahmed Mohamed".

;D
 
The moral thing to do in theory is to take the higher ground and forgive what has happened.

..on the flip side..

He's been box office and maybe should be paid accordingly.

Also if he won, maybe those that would discredit him on the playground would think twice.

Lamborghini Tuesday?
 
Nope, i think they need to stop right where they are.
There is no sense to demand even for apologies, those guys already ashamed very much and it would be better for themselves to apology. If they don't, it's their problems.

I didn't find Islamic analogy, but this situation reminds me "The golden fish" tale.
This story is about old poor fisherman couple. The man caught golden fish and for being released golden fish started to execute their wishes. They became very reach.
But their growing vanity made them to want too much and golden fish took everything away.
 
There is difference between asking responsibility and revenge. If someone intentionally ruin your property , you could sue him to pay the repairing cost. But if you sue him to pay more than your material loss, it's revenge.

If Ahmed family are good Muslims, they should not sue the city and the school to pay compensation like this, but should be able to forgive.

Okay, I have $100 and I will give it to Ahmed family. I hope other Muslims can do the same thing too in accordance to their abilities. Let we collect money and give it to Ahmed family with a message, they don't need to ask compensation from the city and the school. If they want money, let Muslims give them.
 
Companions of the fish?

...although I actually don't know the context of that one.


There is a similar analogy here about the goose that lays the golden egg.

He could build a mosque and still have change left over.
 
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All the media activity around Ahmed is not just because of him.
His case just got into the resonance. He imposonates all unfairly threated muslims in US.
Obama, Microsoft, all the media apologizing toward all muslims, not just one kid somehow very different from others.
But Ahmed's family take everything into their own account.

What ardianto is proposing is a very beautifull gesture.
They will get a choice, either to show good muslim behaviour and stop, either to expect money from other muslims worldwide, even from poorer countries and thus detach their case from impersonalization.
 
Once I was working away from home, two weeks before Christmas.

During the day a nurse who works next door came in and told me she had hit my car in the car park.

She gave me her insurance details but i told her i would repair it privately to save her insurance in the future..

And it was Christmas.


The repair man only charged me 80 pound and I billed her for it.

...I realised some time later that he had damaged an inside panel.

It's still not fixed to this day.. Temporary work.
 
I actually think it's his right, is it greedy? Maybe. I think because they left to Qatar this might be yet another backlash on them however if they made these demands at the beginning no one would be questioning them. Though 15 million is a little bit much I do think that it is their right to sue them. The mayor and the school still stand by their decision by the way they still belief they did the right thing and have yet to apologies for everything they have caused this family.
 
People need to keep in mind that they won't likely get anywhere near that amount. I used to work in personal injury law. We made claims of 1m for just about every case, even ones we knew were borderline threshhold (you have to win over $30,000 to win anything in Ontario - insurance company deducts that much from whatever is awarded). We make the larger claim because you can not raise the number in settlement or at court, but you can lower it. If the client could somehow prove they would have gotten a little more than what was claimed for they could sue the lawyer. So the lawyers always claim the maximum payable under the insurance policy (which is typically 1m but maybe there 15m makes sense for the same reason)
 
People need to keep in mind that they won't likely get anywhere near that amount. I used to work in personal injury law. We made claims of 1m for just about every case, even ones we knew were borderline threshhold (you have to win over $30,000 to win anything in Ontario - insurance company deducts that much from whatever is awarded). We make the larger claim because you can not raise the number in settlement or at court, but you can lower it. If the client could somehow prove they would have gotten a little more than what was claimed for they could sue the lawyer. So the lawyers always claim the maximum payable under the insurance policy (which is typically 1m but maybe there 15m makes sense for the same reason)

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Yes, that's right, and I also think the case will be settled out of court.
 
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Sorry, I don't want to comment on the story itself as I have mixed feelings about what is happening here.

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The respect that Allah (swt) gave him was greater than $15 Million and much more than that and even more than that.

He has our Prophet Muhammad's name (SallAllahu Alaihi Wassallam), so he should've reflected the same forgiving nature and given up the idea of such a claim. Allah (swt) would've increased and blessed their honor.

No money can buy what him and his family were given by Allah (swt).

[h=2](AL Quran 3:26) .....You honor whom You will and You humble whom You will. In Your hand is [all] good. Indeed, You are able to do all things.[/h]
Wallahu Alim who influenced them to make this lawsuit decision.... :(
 
Ahmed was treated unfairly by few people. But then he got sympathies and supports from many people. That was the justice that shown by Allah. But now?, Ahmed start to lost sympathy although I believe, the idea to demand compensation was not coming from Ahmed himself.

What ardianto is proposing is a very beautifull gesture.
They will get a choice, either to show good muslim behaviour and stop, either to expect money from other muslims worldwide, even from poorer countries and thus detach their case from impersonalization.
The "clock arrest" case was a direct impact of Islamophobia. And now decision to demand the compensation can affect Islamophobia to becoming worse. So Muslims should do something to remind Ahmed's family to stop it. If they indeed want money, let global Muslims give compensation.

I have prepared $100 and will not draw it back. But currently I don't know how to contact Ahmed's family and tell the message to them. Hopefully someone can help.

If someone here know Ahmed in the real world or social media, please connect me with him.
 
I suggests that this message should be very public.
May be start a croudfunding campaign on the sites like indiegogo.com
I'm not familiar with this system, need to have ability to withdraw money back to donators if acceptor rejects it. I hope they will refrain from accepting money)
 
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The family of Ahmed Mohamed better sue Richard Dawkins, not the city of Irving.
 

To be fair, no he didn't. What he did was call the boy somebody who pulled a hoax and purposefully dismantled a clock and put the components in a form that would look like a bomb to get a reaction (which he did get) and then gain from the aftermath (which he did - including an invitation to the white house and now this law suit). I'm not saying I agree with Dawkins, but that is his charge, so judge him on that.

Somebody then said to him something about the kid being just a child, and Dawkins reacted to the "he's just a child" line by making he point that children can do some pretty awful things and being a child is no excuse, and pointing to a horrific example of somebody else who did something far worse (Dawkins acknowledges) who is also just a child. The point was to counter the "just a child" line, not to actually compare this kid to the ISIS child executioner.
 

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