[Talha777]

Ashshahadu an la illa ha il Allahu
Wa Ashshahadu ana Muhammadan abduhu wa rasuluh

Auzubillahi min ash-shaitani ar-rajeem
Bismillahi ar-Rahmani ar-Rahmeen

In the name of Allah, The Gracious, the Merciful

We grant them their pleasure for a little while: in the end shall We drive them to a chastisement unrelenting. (31:24)​

The AIDS epidemic is spreading throughout the world. Though it may seem to a be a "third world" disease, even modern Western countries like the United States of America are not immune from it. It is without a doubt a lethal and painful punishment for those who are afflicted with it. For Muslims, it is a Sign of Allah's Anger toward people who have abandoned His commandments and expectations of chastity, and who have dirtied themselves in unlawful sexual relations. It is also a fulfilment of a prophecy made by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (salallahu alaihi wa salam):

It never happens that permissiveness overwhelms a people to the extent that they display their acts of sex shamelessly and they are not uniquely punished by God. Among them, invariably, pestilence is made to spread and such other diseases, the like of which have never been witnessed by their forefathers. (Ibn Majah; Kitab-ul-Fitan)

 

[Keltoi]

I can't say whether AIDS is a punishment from God or not, but that shouldn't get in the way of searching for a cure. If it is a punishment from God, the chances are that no cure exists. Regardless, hopefully God will have mercy and bless those who are searching for a cure and end the suffering of those afflicted with this disease.

 

[tomtomsmom]

Sex isn't the only way that you get aids:rollseyes

 

[Keltoi]

Sex isn't the only way that you get aids:rollseyes

Excellent point, which is why I don't believe AIDS to be a punishment from God.

 

[wilberhum]

Sex isn't the only way that you get aids:rollseyes

Of course not. Blood transfusions are the major cause. This is just some sick, demented justification to hate homosexuals. :raging: People need to justify there hate and this is just another example of it. :raging: :raging:

 

[Keltoi]

Of course not. Blood transfusions are the major cause. This is just some sick, demented justification to hate homosexuals. :raging: People need to justify there hate and this is just another example of it. :raging: :raging:

I also think there is a need to make sense of such an awful plague upon mankind. However, I notice that few make the claim that cancer or heart disease is a punishment from God. There is obviously still a stigma attached to AIDS because of the sexual nature of its origins.

 

[AHMED_GUREY]

there millions of babies suffering from it, i wouldn't call it a punishment from Allah swt since they committed no sins, unless you want to argue them being collateral damage for the acts of the adults before them comparable to the era of the Fircoon and the punishment he received from Allah swt

 

[strider]

This is freakishly beginning to sound like what people said when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans.

 

[tomtomsmom]

This is freakishly beginning to sound like what people said when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans.

Huh?

 

[aljawaad]

I can't say whether AIDS is a punishment from God or not, but that shouldn't get in the way of searching for a cure. If it is a punishment from God, the chances are that no cure exists. Regardless, hopefully God will have mercy and bless those who are searching for a cure and end the suffering of those afflicted with this disease.

Its a punishment and no cure would be found. If ever a cure is found another disease maybe more disastrous than this would appear.
I think that there is a hadith with has more or less this meaning or part of what i've mentioned above, but unfortunately i can't remember that hadith.
If ayone knows something similar to this, please quote it.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Hmmm is there. It cant be a punishment for the children who inherited it though Thats just wrong. Would anyone else like to step in and clear it up:?

 

[tomtomsmom]

I think that to assume it is a punishment is ridiculous. Aren't punishments supposed to be given in the afterlife???

 

[strider]

Huh?

Some people thought it was Gods punishment on all the gays who resided there.

 

[tomtomsmom]

Some people thought it was Gods punishment on all the gays who resided there.

That is just about the stupidest thing I have ever heard!!!! Or read....erm.....you know what I mean!

 

[rebelishaulman]

Ashshahadu an la illa ha il Allahu​

Wa Ashshahadu ana Muhammadan abduhu wa rasuluh​

Auzubillahi min ash-shaitani ar-rajeem
Bismillahi ar-Rahmani ar-Rahmeen​

In the name of Allah, The Gracious, the Merciful​

We grant them their pleasure for a little while: in the end shall We drive them to a chastisement unrelenting. (31:24)​

The AIDS epidemic is spreading throughout the world. Though it may seem to a be a "third world" disease, even modern Western countries like the United States of America are not immune from it. It is without a doubt a lethal and painful punishment for those who are afflicted with it. For Muslims, it is a Sign of Allah's Anger toward people who have abandoned His commandments and expectations of chastity, and who have dirtied themselves in unlawful sexual relations. It is also a fulfilment of a prophecy made by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (salallahu alaihi wa salam):

It never happens that permissiveness overwhelms a people to the extent that they display their acts of sex shamelessly and they are not uniquely punished by God. Among them, invariably, pestilence is made to spread and such other diseases, the like of which have never been witnessed by their forefathers. (Ibn Majah; Kitab-ul-Fitan)

Right, and G-d is punishing the babies to? :-\ :rollseyes

 

[England]

As people gays can be decent people. I don't agree with what they do but it doesn't concern me nor is their private life of any interest to me. I've known a few gay guys and I've had interesting friendly conversations with them. I don't mind gays as long as they keep it to themselves.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Ahh, i cant put gays and decency together =\. well thats just me of course...

 

[England]

Ahh, i cant put gays and decency together =\. well thats just me of course...

No that's just your religion. I can tolerate gays as long as it's not forced upon me. I don't like to see gays kiss in public either. I can get on with them and they know their boundaries.

 

[aamirsaab]

As people gays can be decent people. I don't agree with what they do but it doesn't concern me nor is their private life of any interest to me. I've known a few gay guys and I've had interesting friendly conversations with them. I don't mind gays as long as they keep it to themselves.

That's the same mindset I have.

 

[strider]

No that's just your religion. I can tolerate gays as long as it's not forced upon me. I don't like to see gays kiss in public either. I can get on with them and they know their boundaries.

That isn't religion, that's just sister Jazzy.