Mahir Adnan
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just waiting for Imam Mahadi. we will have our rights back, inshallah
Airstrike on madrasa kills 100s of graduating students - world silent
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Fact is that killing of Muslims isn't crime and terrorism in their eyes
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That’s actually a good point, there might be other mitigating factors, but I think the point stands once these soldiers have served their purpose to the powers that be they are cast adrift. (This doesn’t excuse what they have done as an occupying force).
I agree that sentence was in poor taste I should have worded it better (or not wrote it at all). The point I’m trying to make is that the media can be callous in representing all sides of a conflict.
That’s actually a good point, there might be other mitigating factors, but I think the point stands once these soldiers have served their purpose to the powers that be they are cast adrift. (This doesn’t excuse what they have done as an occupying force).
I agree that sentence was in poor taste I should have worded it better (or not wrote it at all). The point I’m trying to make is that the media can be callous in representing all sides of a conflict.
:bism: (In the Name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)
(Peace be upon you)
I think you're right; but that's because throughout history, the powerful have never cared about the plight or killing of the powerless. Why should the powerful care? It doesn't affect them personally or their lives. And to be honest, I'm not even sure many of them believe in a thing like Judgment Day exists to believe they'll have to account for their wrongs; so, for the powerful, this dunya (world) is everything; and living like a god here, deciding who lives and dies, and enjoying this life, is all that matters.
:wa: (And peace be upon you)
:wa: (And peace be upon you)
The soldiers are a cog in the wheel. They don't matter in the great scheme of things. If they did, because they'd not cease to exist to the powerful after serving their purpose, but they do; the veterans are given poor medical care and suffer neglect; untold amount of vets are homeless and continuing to suffer from mental illnesses in the U.S. They sacrifice their lives for a concept like the nation-state while the nation-state couldn't, beyond the sloganeering of respecting the flag and singing the national anthem, care an atom about these people. Their life and death is one and the same to the nation-state, because at the end of the day the are just tools of the powerful like chess pieces on a board. And the powerful don't care about people they've used as tools, because they were/are only a means to an end.
The media isn't just callous; it's deliberate and methodical in the agendas it ignores, because the real issues are brushed aside or treated as nonexistent. And as far as conflicts go, the media acts subservient to the state. In some ways, it seems to me that North Korea is just brazen about using the media as a propaganda arm of the government. However, the media in the U.K. or U.S. don't seem any better to me. I'm still wondering why it isn't reported that under President Donald Trump we're fighting war efforts in 8 different countries that didn't attack the U.S. or that we were doing so in 7 countries under the Obama administration, which was a great escalation from the 2 in Bush administration. How can things like that not be news and not considered scandalous and yet decades' old affair of a known faithless man like President Donald Trump be considered news and absolutely scandalous? President Donald Trump, as much as he deserves criticism for the many things he does over the years and is doing and has said and is saying, has never pretended to be a pious man; so, he's not a pious hypocrite. So, why the hoopla over his affair and not the war intervention in 8 different countries? It completely doesn't make any sense until you look at the agenda-maneuvering behind the scenes to benefit the powerful elite and maintain the status quo. The media is a propaganda arm of the government and its neutrality in terms of caring to report on or about government corruption a facade; because the propaganda is engineered at the hands of warmongering corporations dealing in arms and other war equipment, which are either a) inexorably linked with the corporations that own mainstream media or b) the powerful simply care about protecting the other powerful in the game.
:wa: (And peace be upon you)
(Peace be upon you)I think you're right; but that's because throughout history, the powerful have never cared about the plight or killing of the powerless. Why should the powerful care? It doesn't affect them personally or their lives. And to be honest, I'm not even sure many of them believe in a thing like Judgment Day exists to believe they'll have to account for their wrongs; so, for the powerful, this dunya (world) is everything; and living like a god here, deciding who lives and dies, and enjoying this life, is all that matters.
:wa: (And peace be upon you)
:wa: (And peace be upon you)
The soldiers are a cog in the wheel. They don't matter in the great scheme of things. If they did, because they'd not cease to exist to the powerful after serving their purpose, but they do; the veterans are given poor medical care and suffer neglect; untold amount of vets are homeless and continuing to suffer from mental illnesses in the U.S. They sacrifice their lives for a concept like the nation-state while the nation-state couldn't, beyond the sloganeering of respecting the flag and singing the national anthem, care an atom about these people. Their life and death is one and the same to the nation-state, because at the end of the day the are just tools of the powerful like chess pieces on a board. And the powerful don't care about people they've used as tools, because they were/are only a means to an end.
The media isn't just callous; it's deliberate and methodical in the agendas it ignores, because the real issues are brushed aside or treated as nonexistent. And as far as conflicts go, the media acts subservient to the state. In some ways, it seems to me that North Korea is just brazen about using the media as a propaganda arm of the government. However, the media in the U.K. or U.S. don't seem any better to me. I'm still wondering why it isn't reported that under President Donald Trump we're fighting war efforts in 8 different countries that didn't attack the U.S. or that we were doing so in 7 countries under the Obama administration, which was a great escalation from the 2 in Bush administration. How can things like that not be news and not considered scandalous and yet decades' old affair of a known faithless man like President Donald Trump be considered news and absolutely scandalous? President Donald Trump, as much as he deserves criticism for the many things he does over the years and is doing and has said and is saying, has never pretended to be a pious man; so, he's not a pious hypocrite. So, why the hoopla over his affair and not the war intervention in 8 different countries? It completely doesn't make any sense until you look at the agenda-maneuvering behind the scenes to benefit the powerful elite and maintain the status quo. The media is a propaganda arm of the government and its neutrality in terms of caring to report on or about government corruption a facade; because the propaganda is engineered at the hands of warmongering corporations dealing in arms and other war equipment, which are either a) inexorably linked with the corporations that own mainstream media or b) the powerful simply care about protecting the other powerful in the game.
:wa: (And peace be upon you)
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Sorry to bring this up but this is beyond dire on the Generals part :facepalm:
Sorry to bring this up but this is beyond dire on the Generals part :facepalm:
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It is Allah who confirms truth and proves falsehood as false, and He has given nearly all of us the critereon and intellect to understand the difference.
It is true that anybody can be an uncontextual mujahid, but the complete truth behind the name label is that mujahideen fee sabeel ALLAH (the creator of truth and justice) will ultimately succeed.
It is also true that those who believe in Allah, and apostasize from kufr of Allah, and then go on to commit kufr of taaghoot and falsehood will win through in the end with truth and justice.
Therefore childish and uncontextual binary manipulation attempts only cast a light on the level of intelligence of a person - or the level of intelligence the person is aiming at, or is assuming the he/she is aiming at.
8. They say, "If we return to Medina, surely the more honourable (element) will expel therefrom the meaner (lowly) ."
And honour belongs to Allah and His Messenger, and to the Believers;
but the Hypocrites know not.
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A surprise to no one.
Aussie special ops 'disregarded humanity', committed 'horrendous' acts in Afghanistan – reports
Soldiers from Australia's elite Special Air Service (SAS) allegedly committed war crimes in Afghanistan, according to a leaked military inquiry. The document notes "violence" and a "disregard for human life" by servicemen.
The leaked report, seen by Fairfax Media, includes details of a confidential defense inquiry which was commissioned in 2016 by then-Special Operations Commander Major General Jeff Sengelman and conducted by a defense department consultant.
It cites special forces insiders who stated that soldiers had practiced the "unsanctioned and illegal application of violence on operations" which extend to a "disregard for human life and dignity."
Citing witnesses, the report said there is a "pattern of...cover-ups - real or imagined, and misdemeanors or more serious offenses in the field, as well as a culture of drug and alcohol abuse." It continues to say that at the very least, "there is no doubt that there are major issues of morale or performance..."
In addition to alleged drug and alcohol issues and violence among operations, the report mentions "the perception of a complete lack of accountability at all times."
One person told the inquiry that there were "some horrendous things" that happened over the past 15 years. "Some just disgraceful things happened in Kabul...very bad news, or just inappropriate behavior, but it was pretty much kept under wraps."
The report also states that the Australian government is being faced with "enormous and difficult challenges" to confront behavior that goes "well beyond blowing off steam" and involves "problems deeply embedded in the culture" of the SAS.
Defense Minister Marise Payne has been briefed on the report's contents, according to Fairfax. The media outlet reported on Friday that SAS soldiers have been subjected to intense questioning by a judge over the past two weeks.
It's not the first time the SAS has come under fire for its behavior in Afghanistan. Government documents leaked last year detailed other crimes allegedly committed by servicemen in the country. Those included the unlawful killings of civilians, including a six-year-old girl, and shed more light on the well-known case of an SAS corporal severing the hands of Taliban fighters.
https://www.rt.com/news/429131-australian-soldiers-crimes-afghanistan/
A surprise to no one.
Aussie special ops 'disregarded humanity', committed 'horrendous' acts in Afghanistan – reports
Soldiers from Australia's elite Special Air Service (SAS) allegedly committed war crimes in Afghanistan, according to a leaked military inquiry. The document notes "violence" and a "disregard for human life" by servicemen.
The leaked report, seen by Fairfax Media, includes details of a confidential defense inquiry which was commissioned in 2016 by then-Special Operations Commander Major General Jeff Sengelman and conducted by a defense department consultant.
It cites special forces insiders who stated that soldiers had practiced the "unsanctioned and illegal application of violence on operations" which extend to a "disregard for human life and dignity."
Citing witnesses, the report said there is a "pattern of...cover-ups - real or imagined, and misdemeanors or more serious offenses in the field, as well as a culture of drug and alcohol abuse." It continues to say that at the very least, "there is no doubt that there are major issues of morale or performance..."
In addition to alleged drug and alcohol issues and violence among operations, the report mentions "the perception of a complete lack of accountability at all times."
One person told the inquiry that there were "some horrendous things" that happened over the past 15 years. "Some just disgraceful things happened in Kabul...very bad news, or just inappropriate behavior, but it was pretty much kept under wraps."
The report also states that the Australian government is being faced with "enormous and difficult challenges" to confront behavior that goes "well beyond blowing off steam" and involves "problems deeply embedded in the culture" of the SAS.
Defense Minister Marise Payne has been briefed on the report's contents, according to Fairfax. The media outlet reported on Friday that SAS soldiers have been subjected to intense questioning by a judge over the past two weeks.
It's not the first time the SAS has come under fire for its behavior in Afghanistan. Government documents leaked last year detailed other crimes allegedly committed by servicemen in the country. Those included the unlawful killings of civilians, including a six-year-old girl, and shed more light on the well-known case of an SAS corporal severing the hands of Taliban fighters.
https://www.rt.com/news/429131-australian-soldiers-crimes-afghanistan/
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Good book on this subject
The Thistle and the Drone: How America's War on Terror Became a Global War on Tribal Islam
Blurb
In the wake of the 9/11 attacks, the United States declared war on terrorism. More than ten years later, the results are decidedly mixed. Here world-renowned author, diplomat, and scholar Akbar Ahmed reveals an important yet largely ignored result of this war: in many nations it has exacerbated the already broken relationship between central governments and the largely rural Muslim tribal societies on the peripheries of both Muslim and non-Muslim nations. The center and the periphery are engaged in a mutually destructive civil war across the globe, a conflict that has been intensified by the war on terror. Conflicts between governments and tribal societies predate the war on terror in many regions, from South Asia to the Middle East to North Africa, pitting those in the centers of power against those who live in the outlying provinces.
Akbar Ahmed's unique study demonstrates that this conflict between the center and the periphery has entered a new and dangerous stage with U.S. involvement after 9/11 and the deployment of drones, in the hunt for al Qaeda, threatening the very existence of many tribal societies. American firepower and its vast anti-terror network have turned the war on terror into a global war on tribal Islam. And too often the victims are innocent children at school, women in their homes, workers simply trying to earn a living, and worshipers in their mosques. Battered by military attacks or drone strikes one day and suicide bombers the next, the tribes bemoan, “Every day is like 9/11 for us.”
In The Thistle and the Drone, the third volume in Ahmed's groundbreaking trilogy examining relations between America and the Muslim world, the author draws on forty case studies representing the global span of Islam to demonstrate how the U.S. has become involved directly or indirectly in each of these societies. The study provides the social and historical context necessary to understand how both central governments and tribal societies have become embroiled in America's war.
Beginning with Waziristan and expanding to societies in Central Asia, the Middle East, North Africa, and elsewhere, Ahmed offers a fresh approach to the conflicts studied and presents an unprecedented paradigm for understanding and winning the war on terror.
Praise for the book
This is a book of genuinely global importance; by offering a fresh and entirely persuasive analysis of what the West habitually and superficially treats as 'religiously motivated' violence or terror, it demands an urgent rethinking of the disastrous strategies that have been used in the last decade to combat the threat of terrorist activity. Professor Ahmed combines a clear professional anthropological expertise with an equally clear, critical and humane moral perspective. This is an unsual and groundbreaking book, which should be compulsory reading for Western governments.'
Dr Rowan Williams, former Archbishop of Canterbury.
Good book on this subject
The Thistle and the Drone: How America's War on Terror Became a Global War on Tribal Islam
Blurb
In the wake of the 9/11 attacks, the United States declared war on terrorism. More than ten years later, the results are decidedly mixed. Here world-renowned author, diplomat, and scholar Akbar Ahmed reveals an important yet largely ignored result of this war: in many nations it has exacerbated the already broken relationship between central governments and the largely rural Muslim tribal societies on the peripheries of both Muslim and non-Muslim nations. The center and the periphery are engaged in a mutually destructive civil war across the globe, a conflict that has been intensified by the war on terror. Conflicts between governments and tribal societies predate the war on terror in many regions, from South Asia to the Middle East to North Africa, pitting those in the centers of power against those who live in the outlying provinces.
Akbar Ahmed's unique study demonstrates that this conflict between the center and the periphery has entered a new and dangerous stage with U.S. involvement after 9/11 and the deployment of drones, in the hunt for al Qaeda, threatening the very existence of many tribal societies. American firepower and its vast anti-terror network have turned the war on terror into a global war on tribal Islam. And too often the victims are innocent children at school, women in their homes, workers simply trying to earn a living, and worshipers in their mosques. Battered by military attacks or drone strikes one day and suicide bombers the next, the tribes bemoan, “Every day is like 9/11 for us.”
In The Thistle and the Drone, the third volume in Ahmed's groundbreaking trilogy examining relations between America and the Muslim world, the author draws on forty case studies representing the global span of Islam to demonstrate how the U.S. has become involved directly or indirectly in each of these societies. The study provides the social and historical context necessary to understand how both central governments and tribal societies have become embroiled in America's war.
Beginning with Waziristan and expanding to societies in Central Asia, the Middle East, North Africa, and elsewhere, Ahmed offers a fresh approach to the conflicts studied and presents an unprecedented paradigm for understanding and winning the war on terror.
Praise for the book
This is a book of genuinely global importance; by offering a fresh and entirely persuasive analysis of what the West habitually and superficially treats as 'religiously motivated' violence or terror, it demands an urgent rethinking of the disastrous strategies that have been used in the last decade to combat the threat of terrorist activity. Professor Ahmed combines a clear professional anthropological expertise with an equally clear, critical and humane moral perspective. This is an unsual and groundbreaking book, which should be compulsory reading for Western governments.'
Dr Rowan Williams, former Archbishop of Canterbury.