Al-isra (isra', the night journey, children of israel)

[Watcher888]

017.101
YUSUFALI: To Moses We did give Nine Clear Signs: As the Children of Israel: when he came to them, Pharaoh said to him: "O Moses! I consider thee, indeed, to have been worked upon by sorcery!
PICKTHAL: And verily We gave unto Moses nine tokens, clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty). Do but ask the Children of Israel how he came unto them, then Pharaoh said unto him: Lo! I deem thee one bewitched, O Moses.
SHAKIR: And certainly We gave Musa nine clear signs; so ask the children of Israel. When he came to them, Firon said to him: Most surely I deem you, O Musa, to be a man deprived of reason.

017.102
YUSUFALI: Moses said, "Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!"
PICKTHAL: He said: In truth thou knowest that none sent down these (portents) save the Lord of the heavens and the earth as proofs, and lo! (for my part) I deem thee lost, O Pharaoh.
SHAKIR: He said: Truly you know that none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth has sent down these as clear proof and most surely I believe you, O Firon, to be given over to perdition.

017.103
YUSUFALI: So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him.
PICKTHAL: And he wished to scare them from the land, but We drowned him and those with him, all together.
SHAKIR: So he desired to destroy them out of the earth, but We drowned him and those with him all together;

017.104
YUSUFALI: And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, "Dwell securely in the land (of promise)": but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd.
PICKTHAL: And We said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land; but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass We shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations.
SHAKIR: And We said to the Israelites after him: Dwell in the land: and when the promise of the next life shall come to pass, we will bring you both together in judgment.



I am seeking clarification about these verses, particularly verse 4!
Verses 1-3 seem to be about the ancient Israelites annd Moses and their captivity in Egypt and the overthrowing of the then Pharoah.
But, verse 4 is unclear to me.

 

[أحمد]

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[aadil77]

it means live in the land without butchering and evicting other people

 

[أبو سليمان عمر]

(101. And indeed We gave Musa nine clear signs. Ask then the Children of Israel, when he came to them, then Fir`awn said to him: "O Musa ! I think you are indeed bewitched.'') (102. He said: "Verily, you know that these signs have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth. And I think you are indeed, O Fir`awn, doomed to destruction!'') (103. So he resolved to turn them out of the land. But We drowned him and all who were with him.) (104. And We said to the Children of Israel after him: "Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near, We shall bring you altogether as mixed crowd.'')

The Nine Signs of Musa

Allah tells us that He sent Musa with nine clear signs, which provided definitive proof that his prophethood was real and that what he was conveying from the One Who had sent him to Fira`wn was true. These clear signs were: his staff, his hand, the years of famine, the sea, the flood, the locusts, the lice, the frogs and the blood. This was the view of Ibn `Abbas. Muhammad bin Ka`b said, "They were his hand and his staff, the five signs mentioned in Al-A`raf, and destruction of wealth and the rock.'' Ibn `Abbas, Mujahid, `Ikrimah, Ash-Sha`bi and Qatadah said: "They are his hand, his staff, the years of famine, the failure of the crops, the flood, the locusts, the lice, the frogs and the blood.''

[فَاسْتَكْبَرُواْ وَكَانُواْ قَوْماً مُّجْرِمِينَ]

(Yet they remained arrogant, and they were of those people who were criminals,) [7:133] meaning, despite all these signs and their witnessing of them, they disbelieved them and belied them wrongfully and arrogantly, although they were themselves were convinced of them, so they did not have any effect on them. By the same token, (Allah tells His Messenger here,) `if We were to respond to what these people are asking you for, who have said that they will not believe in you until you cause springs to gush forth throughout the land for them, they would not respond or believe except if Allah willed.' As Fira`wn said to Musa, even though he had witnessed the signs which he brought,

[إِنِّى لأَظُنُّكَ يمُوسَى مَسْحُورًا]

("O Musa! I think you are indeed bewitched. '') It was said that this meant he thought he was a sorcerer, but Allah knows best. These nine signs which were mentioned by the Imams (scholars) quoted above are what is referred to here, and in the Ayah :

[وَأَلْقِ عَصَاكَ فَلَمَّا رَءَاهَا تَهْتَزُّ كَأَنَّهَا جَآنٌّ وَلَّى مُدْبِراً وَلَمْ يُعَقِّبْ يمُوسَى لاَ تَخَفْ]

("And throw down your stick!'' But when he saw it moving as if it were a snake, he turned in flight, and did not look back. (It was said: ) "O Musa ! Fear not.'') until His saying,

[فِى تِسْعِ ءَايَـتٍ إِلَى فِرْعَوْنَ وَقَوْمِهِ إِنَّهُمْ كَانُواْ قَوْماً فَـسِقِينَ]

(among the nine signs (you will take) to Fir`awn and his people. Verily, they are a people who are rebellious.) [27:10-12] These Ayat include mention of the stick and the hand, and the rest of the nine signs are mentioned in detail in Surat Al-A`raf. Musa was also given many other signs, such as striking the rock with his staff and water flowing from it, their being shaded with clouds, manna and quails, and other signs which were bestowed upon the Children of Israel after they had left the land of Egypt. But here Allah mentions the nine signs which were witnessed by his people in Egypt. These became evidence against them, because they stubbornly rejected them out of disbelief. So Musa said to Fira`wn:

[لَقَدْ عَلِمْتَ مَآ أَنزَلَ هَـؤُلاءِ إِلاَّ رَبُّ السَّمَـوَتِ وَالاٌّرْضِ بَصَآئِرَ]

("Verily, you know that these signs have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth. ) meaning, as proof and evidence of the truth of what I have brought to you.

[وَإِنِّى لأَظُنُّكَ يفِرْعَونُ مَثْبُورًا]

(And I think you are indeed, O Fir`awn, doomed to destruction!) i.e., bound to be destroyed. This was the view of Mujahid and Qatadah. Ibn `Abbas said: "It means cursed.'' Ibn `Abbas and Ad-Dahhak said:

[مَثْبُورًا]

(doomed to destruction.) means defeated. As Mujahid said, "doomed'' includes all of these meanings.

The Destruction of Fir`awn and His People

[فَأَرَادَ أَن يَسْتَفِزَّهُم مِّنَ الاٌّرْضِ]

(So he resolved to turn them out of the land.) means, he wanted to expel them and drive them out.

[فَأَغْرَقْنَاهُ وَمَن مَّعَهُ جَمِيعًاوَقُلْنَا مِن بَعْدِهِ لِبَنِى إِسْرَءِيلَ اسْكُنُواْ الاٌّرْضَ]

(But We drowned him and all who were with him. And We said to the Children of Israel after him: "Dwell in the land...'') This is good news for Muhammad , a foretelling of the conquest of Makkah, even though this Surah was revealed in Makkah before the Hijrah. Similarly, the people of Makkah wanted to expel the Prophet from the city, as Allah says in two Ayat:

[وَإِن كَادُواْ لَيَسْتَفِزُّونَكَ مِنَ الاٌّرْضِ لِيُخْرِجُوكَ مِنْهَا]

(And verily, they were about to frighten you so much as to drive you out from the land...) [17:76-77] Hence Allah caused His Messenger to inherit Makkah, so he entered it by force, according to the better-known of the two opinions, and he defeated its people then out of kindness and generosity, he let them go, just as Allah caused the Children of Israel, who had been oppressed, to inherit the land, east and west, and to inherit the land of Fir`awn's people, with its farmland, crops and treasures. As Allah said,

[كَذَلِكَ وَأَوْرَثْنَـهَا بَنِى إِسْرَءِيلَ ]

(thus We caused the Children of Israel to inherit them. ) (26:59). Here Allah says:

[وَقُلْنَا مِن بَعْدِهِ لِبَنِى إِسْرَءِيلَ اسْكُنُواْ الاٌّرْضَ فَإِذَا جَآءَ وَعْدُ الاٌّخِرَةِ جِئْنَا بِكُمْ لَفِيفًا ]

(And We said to the Children of Israel after him: "Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near, We shall bring you altogether as mixed crowd.'') meaning, all of you, you and your ene mies. Ibn `Abbas, Qatadah and Ad-Dahhak said, "It means all together.''
hope this helps

 

[Watcher888]

Thanks for the replies.

Are their any verses from the koran that mention the Palestinian right to the land formerly known as Canaan?

Because I am as a neutral observer, interested in the Palestinian dispute, as world peace seems to rest on this!

And what is the islamic view of Israel's claim on Jerusalem?

Because some muslims say that Israel has no claim on it, and that the 1st. and 2nd. Temples never existed.
Yet the koran shows that they did!

 

[aadil77]

Thanks for the replies.

Are their any verses from the koran that mention the Palestinian right to the land formerly known as Canaan?

Because I am as a neutral observer, interested in the Palestinian dispute, as world peace seems to rest on this!

And what is the islamic view of Israel's claim on Jerusalem?

Because some muslims say that Israel has no claim on it, and that the 1st. and 2nd. Temples never existed.
Yet the koran shows that they did!

who is israel?

the Quran only refers to the 'children of israel' and they were muslims, those same people no longer exist

who ever has right to land, will not get the right to evict and murder people already present

 

[Watcher888]

who is israel?

the Quran only refers to the 'children of israel' and they were muslims, those same people no longer exist

who ever has right to land, will not get the right to evict and murder people already present

Sorry but, this does not answer my questions as repeated below:

Are their any verses from the koran that mention the Palestinian right to the land formerly known as Canaan?

Because I am as a neutral observer, interested in the Palestinian dispute, as world peace seems to rest on this!

And what is the islamic view of Israel's claim on Jerusalem?

Because some muslims say that Israel has no claim on it, and that the 1st. and 2nd. Temples never existed.
Yet the koran shows that they did!

salaam

 

[جوري]

Because some muslims say that Israel has no claim on it, and that the 1st. and 2nd. Temples never existed. Yet the koran shows that they did!

children of Israel and the current colonial settler state of Israel are two separate entities and we've elaborated on that quite extensively Israel being Jacob not Ashkenazics who have converted to Judaism around the 7 c. further I don't think you quite understand what the sura means, we have explained it in a prolix manner manner before not only does the land belong to the Canaanites but those children of Israel who have done great injustice in the earth will be gathered there for their demise.

I urge you to read the posts on the matter rather than starting new threads looking for a different response.. I assure you the Quran is a done deal, there are no new spins to appease Zionists!

all the best

 

[Perseveranze]

Asalaamu Alaikum(peace be with you),

Muslims won't ever give that land up, that's where some of our Prophet's(pbut) came with the message of the one True God, some who were killed by the ignorant of that land. It's the 3rd holiest land to the Muslims.