[crayon]

"Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe?" (49:10)

أَوَلَمْ يَرَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ كَانَتَا رَتْقًا فَفَتَقْنَاهُمَا وَجَعَلْنَا مِنَ الْمَاء كُلَّ شَيْءٍ حَيٍّ أَفَلَا يُؤْمِنُونَ

Subhanallah.
Yet another proof that Allah alone is the author of the Quran, and knows things no human 1400 years ago could have known.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

"Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe?" (49:10)

أَوَلَمْ يَرَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ كَانَتَا رَتْقًا فَفَتَقْنَاهُمَا وَجَعَلْنَا مِنَ الْمَاء كُلَّ شَيْءٍ حَيٍّ أَفَلَا يُؤْمِنُونَ

Subhanallah.
Yet another proof that Allah alone is the author of the Quran, and knows things no human 1400 years ago could have known.

No living being consists entirely of water, nor was created entirely from water. It evolved in water and is still mostly water.
It depends on how you interpret the verse though.
I wonder if tehre is a living creature whose cells contain less than 50% water.

 

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^ Why do you insist on contradicting everything Islaam says?! Even when you know it's true?!

 

[Whatsthepoint]

:salamext:

^ Why do you insist on contradicting everything Islaam says?! Even when you know it's true?!

I'm not trying to contradict eevrything Islam says. It says good stuff for the most part. I'm just a bit skeptical about islamic miracles and everything related to them.
I think you know the verse is nothing special, it's just that you're a muslim and want it to be special, but deep inside you know the truth. Does this sound arrogant?

 

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:salamext:

^ Yep it does. 1400 years ago, how would have people known everything was made from water? Unless a supernatural source told them?

 

[Whatsthepoint]

:salamext:

^ Yep it does. 1400 years ago, how would have people known everything was made from water? Unless a supernatural source told them?

It old you everything was not made of water.
Well, there was that greek guy who said it more than a 1000 years earlier.

 

[crayon]

I understood the verse to mean that ever living thing contains water, which is correct.

"it's just that you're a muslim and want it to be special, but deep inside you know the truth."

Actually, it's more like you're muslim, you read this, and it strengthens your faith. Maybe if you don't believe that islam is the truth it's harder to grasp, or believe.

 

[Silver]

Water is the most abundant substance in living systems, making up 7o% or more of the weight of most organisms. The first living organisms doubtdless arose in an aqueous environment and the course of evolution has been shaped by the properties of the aqueous medium in which life began. (Lehinger Biochemistry, 4th edition)

 

[piXie]

hew I could do with a glass of water right now

 

[Abdul Fattah]

No living being consists entirely of water, nor was created entirely from water. It evolved in water and is still mostly water.
It depends on how you interpret the verse though.
I wonder if tehre is a living creature whose cells contain less than 50% water.

The verse doesn't state that everything is made entirely out of water. So I don't see how any of that matters.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

I understood the verse to mean that ever living thing contains water, which is correct.

"it's just that you're a muslim and want it to be special, but deep inside you know the truth."

Actually, it's more like you're muslim, you read this, and it strengthens your faith. Maybe if you don't believe that islam is the truth it's harder to grasp, or believe.

You can interpret the verse in many ways. I first saw it quite some time ago and I first thought it says all living things were created from water. It can also refer to living beings containing water, yeah.
The second part was actually a reply to Ahlääm's post which I found a bit arrogant.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

The verse doesn't state that everything is made entirely out of water. So I don't see how any of that matters.

that's right, it doesn't. It's possible to intepret it that way though.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

so, what do you propose the verse actually says? That every living organism contains a lot of water, that life began in water...?

 

[crayon]

Well, it could have said "and we made every thing from water", but it specified that it was only living things that were made out of water. Like I said it before, I understood it as saying that every living thing contains water. Looking at it from the other point of view, the question is: Is there a living thing that does not contain water? No. Which proves this verse to be correct, which I find miraculous. :]

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Well, it could have said "and we made every thing from water", but it specified that it was only living things that were made out of water. Like I said it before, I understood it as saying that every living thing contains water. Looking at it from the other point of view, the question is: Is there a living thing that does not contain water? No. Which proves this verse to be correct, which I find miraculous. :]

A fair view!
I think the author of the Quran knew every living thing, which I guess in his time were animals and plants, required water to survive, so he made the verse about it. It's possible he deducted every living thing therefore contains water. Nothing miraculous in my opinion. He could have also thought every living thing was made from water, which is wrong.

Why is it that every miraculous verse has to be so ambiguous? If it said living beings contain water, lots of it, i'd probably be impressed. I don't mean to harm your religious felings, I think it's great you have reasons to believe, I just don't think the verse should be portryed as scientific.

 

[crayon]

The quran was not meant to be a science textbook. Also, in this way, the verse can be interpreted in many different ways, which could all very well be true. It could mean, like I thought, that all living things contain water. It could mean that there is more water in a living organism than any other substance. It could mean that living things started out it water. All those are perfectly reasonable interpretations of the aya, and all of them are true (btw, clay is a bunch of clay material and water, so that interpretation does not contradict the fact that Allah created Adam from clay). So you've got several meanings all in 5 concise arabic words; quite awesome, in my opinion.

If the quran was going to be written like a science textbook, and include all those meanings it would be much longer, such as:
all living things contain water
there is more water in a living organism than any other substance
all living things started out it water.

And this is just talking about water, something that is mentioned one, or a few (not sure, exactly) times in the quran. Imagine every time Allah talked about the embryo or the heavens and earth he had to go through every single thing meant? The quran would go from being a book to being volumes and volumes; plus, it would turn into a textbook, which it wasn't meant to be in the first place. It is a science book, a history book, a theology book, a math book (if you consider the number miracles as math), a biology book, and I could just go on and on. With short, to the point ayas, Allah conveyed several meanings. Maybe that is why you find it ambiguous.

 

[crayon]

and we made every living thing of water

No living being consists entirely of water
nor was created entirely from water. Those 2, right?

For the first one, the verse did not say living things consisted entirely out of water, as Abdul Fattah pointed out. It also did not say that they were created solely from water.

all living things contain water- when you make something out of a substance, say using flour to make a cake, there remains some of that substance in the final product. using this logic, if water was used to create living things, water will remain in them.
there is more water in a living organism than any other substance- the verse did not say "we made every living thing of carbon" or "nitrogen". it said water, therefore, that would be the most important, or most abundant, substance in a living thing.
all living things started out in water.- "made of water" could mean that we used water to make living things.


But this could go on forever, I guess...

Wa Allahu A'lam, God knows best.

Just to add, if one is not sure of the meaning of a verse, it should be left to scholars. Interpretation of the quran is a whole science unto itself, and needs years and years of studying, and immersement in the material, before one attempt to assess what is meant by each verse oneself.

 

[AntiKarateKid]

Did you ever wonder why the Allah says that these are signs for men of knowledge? It is because the believers, who are guided, recognize the truth and know it is from Allah. Disbelievers refuse to belive it unless it specifies the exact amount of water that we are made up of. Perhaps you need another line drawn for you from the verse to it's miraculous nature just like the google earth thread eh Whatsthepoint?

 

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:salamext:

I think the author of the Quran knew every living thing, which I guess in his time were animals and plants, required water to survive, so he made the verse about it. It's possible he deducted every living thing therefore contains water. Nothing miraculous in my opinion. He could have also thought every living thing was made from water, which is wrong.

Of course, you are right. Allaah did know everything

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Did you ever wonder why the Allah says that these are signs for men of knowledge? It is because the believers, who are guided, recognize the truth and know it is from Allah. Disbelievers refuse to belive it unless it specifies the exact amount of water that we are made up of. Perhaps you need another line drawn for you from the verse to it's miraculous nature just like the google earth thread eh Whatsthepoint?

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Ok, let me give you an example of a verse I find truely amazing, although not as impressive as the day I first came across it.
It's the one about the splitting of the moon and all the numbers involved. I'm sure you're familiar with it, if not there's plenty of threads about it.
This watery thingy is nothing special, the alleged google Earth miracle is interesting, as I said.