Anjem Choudary house raided by police

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abz2000 said:
Brother,
It is these youth who have stood up and fought to protect our communities when the police were absent,
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Salaam,

There are present at protests at times. I believe Theresa May stopped or delayed the EDL from protesting at one time. There is help available but not all the time.

Many people have suspected that the edl is being used as a tool by those in power,
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A bad choice. EDL do not seem very bright and well presented.

When the edl members here threatened to attack east London mosque,
It was the hooded youth who came out and filled the area with their presence,
And it was only after that that the police took notice and provided guards,
the imam then assured the youths that all was ok and they should go home
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There are times where the police cannot prevent crime, especially now due to the cuts. I have nothing against people protecting their property.

How can we knock these kids for defending themselves and communities?
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How do you explain the Muslim guy in the video slapping Tommy Robinson in the face? Though Muslim man was not kid lol. The man is afraid to walk down the street because he will be beaten by some Muslims. In this case, it is not defending at all.

You can get both sides behaving inappropriately and breaking the law. It is not as simple as good vs evil.
 
^ thanks for the input brother, i felt i was wrong about him after hearing more of his talks,
and tragic typos - apologies if i came across as accusatory, just get a but frustrated sometimes - hope you won't hold it to heart,
will still argue points with you though!
your brother abz
 
abz2000 said:
^ thanks for the input brother, i felt i was wrong about him after hearing more of his talks,
and tragic typos - apologies if i came across as accusatory, just get a but frustrated sometimes - hope you won't hold it to heart,
will still argue points with you though!
your brother abz
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Salaam,

No need to apologise. =) Hope I did not come across as being rude.

Anjem Choudary is quite a good speaker and debater. He speaks eloquently and I have learnt a lot from him BUT I disagree with his approach.
 
the man may sound like a loon, but his voice is a voice in the wilderness,
we need to keep making sure that truth doesn't become a taboo subject - even if it means people are outspoken.

if it wasn't for people boldly speaking out, we would all be branded extremists just for being muslim and not allowing our necks to be trodden on:

in february of 2009, the british government wanted to make it "extremist" to be muslim,
the reason they stopped is not because they thought it was wrong, but because they were concerned they would lose the support of half baked muslims and other hypocrites who were working for them, and that it would galvanise the whole community (like chucking a frog in boiling water - only for to jump out):

According to a draft of the strategy, Contest 2 as it is known in Whitehall, people would be considered as extremists if:
• They advocate a caliphate, a pan-Islamic state encompassing many countries.
• They promote Sharia law.
• They believe in jihad, or armed resistance, anywhere in the world. This would include armed resistance by Palestinians against the Israeli military.
• They argue that Islam bans homosexuality and that it is a sin against Allah.
• They fail to condemn the killing of British soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan.

......one official source said plans to widen the definition were "incendiary" and could alienate Muslims,
whose support in the counterterrorism effort is needed. There were also fears it could aid the far right......

so we see that they are not concerned about right or wrong - but feel that they still need time to break through our ranks.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/feb/17/counterterrorism-strategy-muslims


Those outside of Islam and the hypocrites are really helpers of evil against Allah:
The Misbeliever is a helper (of Evil), against his own Lord! (25:55)

What's a 'moderate Muslim'?
- Someone that doesn't mind the invasion and occupation of Muslim countries and the slaughter of countless people there?
We will see the end of 'extremist' Muslims when we see the end of 'extremist' leaders in the West.
It's not rocket science although it is in a lot of people's interests to pretend that it is.”
- Marie Xeno

"And did not Allah check one set of people by means of another,
the earth would indeed be full of mischief;
but Allah is full of Bounty to all the worlds"
-Qur'an 2:251




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