[anonymous]

Is it true all Shia are not Muslims?

I know Shia's don't follow the conventional teachings of Islam such as praying 5 times a day (they only pray 3 times) but are all of them not Muslims?

I can't remember but I remember a scholar saying that not all Shia's are non-Muslims...some are but not all. Though I didn't understood his reasoning...

Can anyone clarify this? It would be nice to have a detailed response...not copy or pasted. ;D

Also are there Orthodox Sunni Muslims who don't believe in the Mahdi? They claim it is no where mentioned in the Qur'an or the Sunnah...this has been more central to Shia ideology.

 

[Far7an]

I don't see how you can expect a detailed response without it being copied and pasted seeing as there is noone qualified (to my knowledge) on this forum to answer your question.

Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Adam says:

The great Hanafi jurist, Imam Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) states:
“There is no doubt in the disbelief (kufr) of those that falsely accuse Sayyida Ai’isha (Allah be pleased with her) of adultery, deny the Companionship of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr ( Allah be pleased with him), believe that sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) was God or that the angel Jibril by mistake descended with the revelation (wahi) on the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace), etc… which is apparent Kufr and contrary to the teachings of the Qur’an.” (Radd al-Muhtar, 4/453)

Therefore, Shi’as who hold such beliefs are without doubt out of the fold of Islam.

Those who do not hold beliefs that constitute Kufr, such as believing that Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) was the rightful first Caliph after the demise of the Messenger of Allah, belief in the twelve Imams, etc…

Such Shi’as cannot be termed as out of the fold of Islam, rather they are considered to be severely deviated and transgressors (fisq).

Imam Ibn Abidin states:

“It is difficult to make a general statement and judge all the Shi’as to be non-believers, for the scholars have agreed on the deviation and defection of the deviated sects.” (ibid)

It should be remarked here that some members of the Shi’a community display outwardly not to have believes that constitute Kufr, but keep these beliefs in their heart, which they call Taqiyya.

Unless anyone else has something else to say, I'll close this thread.