Are there Good n Bad Innovations(bi'dah)..?

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Bro, an innovation is an innovation. Innovations lead to the hellfire.
 
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Baby_Pearl said:
Bro, an innovation is an innovation. Innovations lead to the hellfire.
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Correction, innovation in Islam i.e. adding things to the religion would lead you to the hell fire.

Being innovative in the general sense isn't neccessarily bad. Just wanted to clarify this.
 
Salaam.

How do you define what's an innovation and what isn't?
 
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where is your proof that there is good bid'ah?
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Technology. The computer you are using to read this information. The house that you live in. The clothes that you are wearing. Most of these contain innovative attributes and/or designs.
 
If 'every' innovation is a misguidance then the following too are all innovations which originated two centuries or more after Sahaba RA: Reading eight raka in Tarawih; Translations of Quran; Writing Tafseers; collection and classification of Ahaadiths; Principles of Jurisprudence; The four schools of Fiqh, Stoned and carpeted Mosques, use of loud speakers in mosques etc
 
aamirsaab said:
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Correction, innovation in Islam i.e. adding things to the religion would lead you to the hell fire.

Being innovative in the general sense isn't neccessarily bad. Just wanted to clarify this.
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I agree. I meant the adding to Islam sense.
 
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Technology. The computer you are using to read this information. The house that you live in. The clothes that you are wearing. Most of these contain innovative attributes and/or designs.
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At last a brother who understands
 
Meaning of Bid'ah: Every Belief or saying or action that came after the death of the Prophet peace be upon him with the intention of worskhip, or getting closer to Allah, And there is no daleel for it from the Kitab or the Sunnah.

I think thats what we're talking about here.
 
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Isma'el said:
If 'every' innovation is a misguidance then the following too are all innovations which originated two centuries or more after Sahaba RA: Reading eight raka in Tarawih; Translations of Quran; Writing Tafseers; collection and classification of Ahaadiths; Principles of Jurisprudence; The four schools of Fiqh, Stoned and carpeted Mosques, use of loud speakers in mosques etc
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They aren't adding to Islam though - they are making the religion more accessible. This forum could be a form of bi'dah if those listed in your posts are.

Z has a good point.
 
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Technology. The computer you are using to read this information. The house that you live in. The clothes that you are wearing. Most of these contain innovative attributes and/or designs.
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In the deen you nut!:okay:
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Meaning of Bid'ah: Every Belief or saying or action that came after the death of the Prophet peace be upon him with the intention of worskhip, or getting closer to Allah, And there is no daleel for it from the Kitab or the Sunnah.

I think thats what we're talking about here.
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That's certainly what i'm talking about.
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You took the words right out of my mouth...minus the 'you nut' bit. lol
 
AGAIN

Sheikh al-Islam lbn Hajar Al Asqalani, the commentator on al-Bukhari, said, "Anything that did not exist during the Prophet's time is called innovation, but some are good while others are not."

Abu Na'eem, narrated from Ibrahim al-Junaid, said, "I heard Ash-Shafi'i saying, 'Innovation is of two types: praiseworthy innovation and blameworthy innovation, and anything that disagrees with the Sunnah is blameworthy."
 
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AGAIN

Sheikh al-Islam lbn Hajar Al Asqalani, the commentator on al-Bukhari, said, "Anything that did not exist during the Prophet's time is called innovation, but some are good while others are not."

Abu Na'eem, narrated from Ibrahim al-Junaid, said, "I heard Ash-Shafi'i saying, 'Innovation is of two types: praiseworthy innovation and blameworthy innovation, and anything that disagrees with the Sunnah is blameworthy."
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Qouting is s Nawal
Meaning of Bid'ah: Every Belief or saying or action that came after the death of the Prophet peace be upon him with the intention of worskhip, or getting closer to Allah, And there is no daleel for it from the Kitab or the Sunnah.

This is the bid'ah we are talking about.
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Salaam.

But there are some things that weren't around then, so there may not have Daleel, but also not be against Sunnah.
 
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Salaam.

But there are some things that weren't around then, so there may not have Daleel, but also not be against Sunnah.
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Give an example? Remember we're talking about worship here.
 
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