Are White Muslims Racist?

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I think you have hit the nail on the head in this one brother.

It is a given fact that white privilege exists. There are those who are in denial of it and dismiss it. This white privilege was created by the European colonists when they ruled the world. Britain ruled the wold for a few centuries and then the other European nations came. When you have centuries of white people ruling over you, telling you white is better and the lighter you are from your people the more you will be favored. This centuries of bondage and occupation left a lasting impact on the psyche of the world. Not only did the White Europeans taught ethnocentric superiority to the world, they themselves believed this and taught it to their kids. If you go to any corner of the world, whether the people of pakistani, saudi, Filipino, or any colored nation that has been occupied and colonized, you will realize the same pattern. They all suffer from inferiority complex from centuries of bondage and oppression. And even the physical colonization ended , the mental colonization still exists. Still people of color see themselves as inferior and the European western nations have set up the world as such that even today the whites see themselves as superior and better. They all won't say it but Trump brought a lot of them out in the open.

And sadly, we see this in the ummah as well. The Muslims who put themselves down and the converts up by saying they are like the "sahabas" ignorantly dismissing themselves and their efforts of bettering themselves. No one is like the sahabas, no one. The converts get their slate wiped and get a refresh start, but then so do other Muslims who go do hajj, and those who sincerely repent. Do they know not that one who repents is like the one who has not committed the sin?

Your article brought out the uncomfortable truth that many are not willing to accept and many will try to deny or defend against. And those who speak out about that topic will also be shunned as "racist" or some other label, unless the person voicing this is a white person, like yourself. Then they cannot dismiss you as a "jealous" colored person.

But to answer your question, I don't think we can label whole group of people as racist. There exists racism in all groups, be it outward towards other groups or inwards towards their own. But for the most part I believe racism does exist in the white reverts. Because quite frankly , many reverts come from a racist white favored society where they see themselves as better. To think of themselves as equal as non-whites after reverting is not an easy task. One has to truly shed themselves of the ugly aspects of their cultural baggage to be free of racism and rarely do we see that.

Then again I don't like that hamza guy anyway. This is the same guy who said people go to do Jihad after watching too much porn. And that all those kuffars who died on 9-11 are shaheed while the Muslims killed who allegedly were behind it are not. Maybe it was his prejudice white bias talking or pro-western pleasing.

??? There isn't racism in Black, Asian and Arab communities? How many non white people think they are superior then white people. Hamza Yusuf was telling a truth that a lot non white Muslims dont want to admit. Furthermore at least in white communities people are actually addressing the problem - the same cannot be said for any other community frankly. The arabs of UAE or saudi arabia are not having a conversation - neither are Pakistanis and the caste system.

so when Hamza yusuf said that the US had some of the best anti racism laws sadly hes right because no other Muslim majority country even comes close. A low bar.
 
@anatolian you have to see what he said in the context of what is going on in the west, especially in the US in regards to police brutality towards the minorities, especially black and the similarities in his speech and that of white right wing groups.

http://www.muslimahmediawatch.org/2016/12/27/hamza-yusuf-and-the-dangers-of-black-pathology/

He wasn't just talking about the west - But Muslims from all walks of life that sadly have there own prejudices that they fail to call out on. Conveniently the article misses that point. Of course the article also forgets that Hamza Yusuf lived in Mauritania for over a decade and studied with black scholars.
 
He wasn't just talking about the west - But Muslims from all walks of life that sadly have there own prejudices that they fail to call out on. Conveniently the article misses that point. Of course the article also forgets that Hamza Yusuf lived in Mauritania for over a decade and studied with black scholars.

Yes, we all have prejudice of one sort or another, no one is denying that. He studied with black scholars, he has a mexcian wife, these are moot points as the white racists use the same logic saying "i'm not racist, i have black friends", have read here:

http://verilymerrilymary.com/2015/08/i-am-not-racist-i-have-black-friends.html

What you and others are missing is the underlying message of what hamza said. You may have missed this from the article, let me highlight here it:


I know how hard it can be to swallow the idea that a person you have revered for years—a person whose teachings brought you deeper into the fold of Islam—can have racist views. I get that you experience it as a loss, and I get that there is a bit of grieving involved for the image you once held. But after the shock subsides, recognize and acknowledge the danger of black pathology and how it was wound all up and through Yusuf’s RIS 2016 rhetoric.

Black pathology is the idea that black people are—perhaps simply by virtue of being born black—steeped in pathology, unable to think and behave normally, healthily, sanely. Black pathology states that we are inherently flawed, not in a “all of mankind is flawed” sort of way, but in a “something is specifically wrong with those people” sort of way. So the many problems that have befallen black people have nothing to do with concerted efforts of concentrated racism and everything to do with our messed up wiring, which prevents us from pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps like so many others. Yes, I know Yusuf never made such bold and direct claims, but there was definite danger in his words.

Why? Because he had an opportunity to educate a mass of mostly non-black Muslims on the oppression of their black brothers and sisters but instead spoke on black on black crime and how America’s anti-discrimination laws are top notch. Translation: “The problem is them.”

And then to add insult to injury, Yusuf brought up the racism “in our own communities” but only addressed anti-Jewish sentiment and Arab vs. non-Arab (i.e., South Asian) racism. He made no mention, not even in passing, of the very real and visible issue of anti-blackness in Muslim communities.

All that was required was a sincere apology, an admission of insensitivity, an acknowledgment of the fact that you don’t have the understanding or cultural sensibilities to speak to such issues.

But that’s not what happened. Instead, you crawled deeper into the cave of black pathology by saying the breakdown of the black family is the greatest issue facing black Americans, not racism. I must ask, how on earth can any person with any bit of black history under their belt discuss the tearing apart of black families, which is a real thing, WITHOUT centering the structural racism that was put in place specifically to do just that?


??? There isn't racism in Black, Asian and Arab communities? How many non white people think they are superior then white people. Hamza Yusuf was telling a truth that a lot non white Muslims dont want to admit. Furthermore at least in white communities people are actually addressing the problem - the same cannot be said for any other community frankly. The arabs of UAE or saudi arabia are not having a conversation - neither are Pakistanis and the caste system.
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I never said racism doesn't exit in other communities or races. The zionists are the same in they think they are God's "chosen people" and we all are below cattle. The Brahmans of hinduism think the same that they are superior to all others. And the arabs of the Gulf think the same, that they are "Pure arabs" and all other arabs are fake. So yes, such racism does exist in other communities as well. BUT the topic on hand is white racism and especially among white Muslims. And no, in white communities this is not being discussed which is why the OP brought this issue up and something he mentioned in his article as well.

I knew someone would come around here taking the defensive stance and would take anything said by a non-white as nothing more than "jealous rant". So to quote from the OP's article:

"Due to the inherent racism and still colonized minds of so many in the Muslim community, my voice as a white Muslims is heard whilst so many others who are perhaps far more qualified to speak on this topic are ignored..."

So does the white racism exist ? Again i would agree with the OP and his article where he stated:

"I would argue they are and as a white revert, involved in new Muslim support activities and Dawah one of my responsibilities [is] to check that racism so it cannot just be dismissed as another bitter rant by an angry person of colour."
 
The question is problematic. It should have been as "Is there racism within white Muslims?" The answer is yes from what you all tell but the answer for the the op is no. By the way MalcolmX is a good lesson for this subject
 
Malcolm X! it's been a long time since I've heard of him... I saw one beautiful video about him, he was talking about his journey and experience in Saudi Arabia, Mecca <3
 
Guys, there are Muslims who are racists (which is wrong) and there are Muslims who are not racist, racism doesn't exist in Islam, Islam is anti racist /racism ..


Although I agree, sadly no Arab country has anti racism laws..
 
Yes, we all have prejudice of one sort or another, no one is denying that. He studied with black scholars, he has a mexcian wife, these are moot points as the white racists use the same logic saying "i'm not racist, i have black friends", have read here:

http://verilymerrilymary.com/2015/08...k-friends.html

What you and others are missing is the underlying message of what hamza said. You may have missed this from the article, let me highlight here it:


I know how hard it can be to swallow the idea that a person you have revered for years—a person whose teachings brought you deeper into the fold of Islam—can have racist views. I get that you experience it as a loss, and I get that there is a bit of grieving involved for the image you once held. But after the shock subsides, recognize and acknowledge the danger of black pathology and how it was wound all up and through Yusuf’s RIS 2016 rhetoric.

No - Hamza yusuf has been serving the Muslim community for over 20 years - His mistakes dont overshadow his incredible work that hes done - Zaid Shakir and Yasir Qadhi put it best.
 
As salamu aleiykum,
As a white muslim in the west. I feel that many white people are very ignorant of many cultures and things they dont understand. Because of this i feel they sometimes express thwmselves in racist ways and are not even aware of it. I for one have a tough time getting people to understand why i have chosen this religion. Hopefully i can do my part to help them understand. Thanl you.
 

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