Ask darwinists

[asadxyz]

I was hoping for something more along the lines of...
"Allah is all powerful He can do whatever he likes, the proof/evidence I have is..."

None of your fault.This is in built defect in the group to which you belong to.
No rational thinking at all.
Best of luck

 

[Azy]

Why is it that I require proof and you do not? Surely a perfectly rational viewpoint such as yours must have overwhelming evidence.

 

[Gator]

If you have no answer to these questions then only possibility remains that there is a SuperPower who created them,.Very rational approach.

I disagree.

If I don't know how a magic trick is done, then the only possibility is that the magician is actually using magic?

Thanks.

 

[tetsujin]

You are beating about the bush because you do not have answer to my question.If God did not create all this matter and energy then
-How did matter come into existance ?
-How did energy come into existance?
If you have no answer to these questions then only possibility remains that there is a SuperPower who created them,.Very rational approach.Think like a scientists ,do not believe hearsay and self concocted theories which today accepted and very next day rebutted.
Allah knew and created the cloning process.Science could not detect it till 20th century.But Allah told us centuries ago that procreation is possible without mating of a male and female.Example Birth of Prophet Jesus PBUH in the Quran.
Could science believe just a few years back ?

Are you telling me that Jesus (peace be upon him) was a clone of his mother (arguably a female)?



How am I beating around the bush? You're obviously not reading a single word of those links. How about a link to a website for CERN, They create matter and anti-matter all the time. It's costly, and not efficient, but enough for studying the laws of nature.

If you have a genuine interest in finding the answers, then I've given them to you.

http://askanexpert.web.cern.ch/AskAnExpert/en/PPhysics/MAntimatter-en.html



Your rationality is that there can only be two theories. If theory A has immense credibility, evidence, practical applications, but no absolute proof, then by your logic theory B has to be true even if there's no credibility, evidence, or practical application or proof.

That's wonderful. You've demonstrated quite clearly that you've never had a proper education in science or the scientific method. The fact that you think presenting work that has already been done in the field is beating around the bush leads me to wonder if you even read what I provided for you. If you don't want to read it, just say so, it'll save you time and frustration.


All the best wishes,



Faysal

 

[asadxyz]

Are you telling me that Jesus (peace be upon him) was a clone of his mother (arguably a female)?



That's wonderful. You've demonstrated quite clearly that you've never had a proper education in science or the scientific method. The fact that you think presenting work that has already been done in the field is beating around the bush leads me to wonder if you even read what I provided for you. If you don't want to read it, just say so, it'll save you time and frustration.


All the best wishes,



Faysal

You probably do not know there can by XX males and XY females.How clone of Jesus occured still a mystery as it was a mystery till a few years back that male/female gametes are essential for procreation.Birth of the Holy Prophet will be fully revealed inshallah.
For the sake of you information I am practicing scientific person who does not like to beat about the bush and do not believe hearsay because I have my rationally working mind not like those who run after concocted theories and call them facts.
Best of luck

 

[tetsujin]

You probably do not know there can by XX males and XY females.How clone of Jesus occured still a mystery as it was a mystery till a few years back that male/female gametes are essential for procreation.
Best of luck

Actually I do, so was Mary an XY female and/or was Jesus the XX male?

 

[asadxyz]

Actually I do, so was Mary an XY female and/or was Jesus the XX male?

It is yet to be discovered whether he was XX male or there is some still hidden process which is beyond the reach of present knowledge.But one thing is sure that "Islam is the only religion which claimed the birth of human being without combination of gametes ".{Long Live Islam}.Islam has been target of criticism by the irrational group who can just believe in theories of Tom ,Dick and Harry for 1500yrs.
This is known as "The Truth"
Allaho Akbar.

 

[tetsujin]

So Mary was a normal, pious, young woman? No odd genetic traits?

 

[asadxyz]

So Mary was a normal, pious, young woman? No odd genetic traits?

Of course she was a pious lady having very strong character because she was not an atheist.
Person who is not atheist is morally sound .

 

[tetsujin]

Of course she was a pious lady having very strong character because she was not an atheist.
Person who is not atheist is morally sound .

I meant, could you say that she was a genetically normal female (not X, or XY, or XXX, etc...)

 

[جوري]

It is yet to be discovered whether he was XX male or there is some still hidden process which is beyond the reach of present knowledge.But one thing is sure that "Islam is the only religion which claimed the birth of human being without combination of gametes ".{Long Live Islam}.Islam has been target of criticism by the irrational group who can just believe in theories of Tom ,Dick and Harry for 1500yrs.
This is known as "The Truth"
Allaho Akbar.

XX males suffer azospermia amongst other things, and Jesus (p) was a perfect being.. all Allah swt need do is order something to be and it shall be!

We don't wonder the genetic traits of Adam anymore than we do Jesus (p)!

There is a break in causality no matter the approach.. whether an atheist believing we have all egressed by way of abiogenesis itself a product of a zero splitting or whether you believe Allah swt created us.

Genetics and molecular biology is a very complicated process and has no room on this thread. least of which as it encroaches upon sacrilege!

I am going to ask a mod to close this thread, if you don't mind

 

[tetsujin]

I am going to ask a mod to close this thread, if you don't mind

I would mind, but seeing as how atheists are by definition immoral it would not matter.

I actually wanted to know where he is going with this Jesus is a clone of Mary Theory.

 

[جوري]

I would mind, but seeing as how atheists are by definition immoral it would not matter.

I actually wanted to know where he is going with this Jesus is a clone of Mary Theory.

What you mind or don't mind is of no consequence to me, further, this isn't the first thread of its kind.. in fact we have one just like it bearing the exact title, floating here somewhere on health and sci!..

Talking about God's messengers in such a way encroaches upon sacrilege!
Frankly I don't care much where you get your entertainment.. but I care much, that, that which is sacred remains so, at least as far as Muslims are concerned. You can carry out your amusements on dawkins.net

cheers

 

[asadxyz]

Agreed with you sister !00%

 

[tetsujin]

What you mind or don't mind is of no consequence to me, further, this isn't the first thread of its kind.. in fact we have one just like it bearing the exact title, floating here somewhere on health and sci!..

Talking about God's messengers in such a way encroaches upon sacrilege!
Frankly I don't care much where you get your entertainment.. but I care much, that, that which is sacred remains so, at least as far as Muslims are concerned. You can carry out your amusements on dawkins.net

cheers

It's really not about my amusement. If I wanted to be entertained I could be doing other wholesome things.

It's a matter of getting a single story about a fundamental belief. I've always thought that as a muslim you would never question the perfection of each of god's messengers. So this was something new. Who needs to be corrected, I don't know, but suppressing the dialogue only creates more animosity.

All the best wishes,


Faysal