Baphomet, The Head, and the sabi`een

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Re: The Sabians

NahidSarvy said:
Anaa l-Haqq. ;D

Ha ha, always wanted a chance to use that line.

No. They don't accept converts. I admire their juridical leanings, however, on certain issues and their stalwart political and religious unity over time.

Also, they wear sweet outfits. Pic of a Druze 3aqil (religious man) here for those not constrained by a fear that photographs steal your soul: http://almashriq.hiof.no/general/600.technology/640/646/costumes_of_the_Levant/druze.jpg

I didn't find one of a female leader - there are more female 3uqqal than men, but I guess they aren't as photogenic.
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I've seen in Al Jazeera, a Druze sheikh said that whoever one to be Druze he can be Druze whoever wanna leave Druze they can leave.

Asmahan Al Atrache, Fareed Al Atrache and Ramy Ayach are Druzes right?
 
Once when I was having difficulty explaining my religion to someone I said that it was something like druze, and they kinda got the right idea except that they thought I was a kind of ishmaili, so it backfired in a way. It does seem to me like the Druze must have been Sabi`een who tried to adopt islam but did not quite complete the journey. Very interesting group of people.
 
Re: The Sabians

north_malaysian said:
I've seen in Al Jazeera, a Druze sheikh said that whoever one to be Druze he can be Druze whoever wanna leave Druze they can leave.
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Well, that's certainly true within the community - they are extremely laissé-faire about these matters if you are born Druze. I don't know that they accept any outsiders in, though. You marry out, you are out.

They are unusual for their strenuous advocacy of monogamy, which dates back to the 10th century - the Fatimid Imam-Caliphs apparently issued a ruling indicating that since no one could truly be fair to multiple wives, it would be best to not take more than one.
north_malaysian said:
Asmahan Al Atrache, Fareed Al Atrache and Ramy Ayach are Druzes right?
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And Casey Kasem, the famous American disk jockey.

At least one Druze serves in the Israeli Knesset, and the Jumblatt family presumably needs no introduction.
 
Re: The Sabians

NahidSarvy said:
I don't know that they accept any outsiders in, though. You marry out, you are out.

>deletions<

At least one Druze serves in the Israeli Knesset, and the Jumblatt family presumably needs no introduction.
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Well the last time I mentioned anything vaguly sectarian (on the history of the Sikhs) I got a whacking great set of demerit points so I am not saying anything about anyone. I am not even going to point out that those two sentences seem mutually contradictory - not the Israeli bit but the other bit. After all I know someone, without mentioning names or any religious beliefs he may have at all, whose Wife, Mother and Grandmother were all Circassian and hence perhaps, you know, something else.

But perhaps I ought to get some demerit points for going off-topic? What was this about again?
 
Re: The Sabians

HeiGou said:
But perhaps I ought to get some demerit points for going off-topic? What was this about again?
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Basically its about the mysticism of Johannites, Templars, Masons, Ishmailis, Sufis and any other "gnostic" groups whose mysticism descends from a total or partial misunderstanding of pure monotheistic Sabi beliefs.
 
I just recently discovered that in his book, The Golden Builders: Alchemists, Rosicrucians, and the First Freemasons (New York: Barnes and Noble, 2002.), Tobias Churton admits to the origins of Freemasonry in the beliefs of the Sabi'ah Mushrikoon (Yezidi) Sabians of Harran. Since it is relevant to the thread, just thought I would add it here.
 

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