Because of the Talibaan, Schools forced to close.

My understanding of it, and this is based on what a Taliban spokesperson himself said on tv to Al Jazeera, is that they are not against education for women, or women's empowerment generally in anyway. They just want a separate system based on gender. Surely in a conservative Islamic nation like that, it's a reasonable educational policy to implement, especially given the country's recent history.
 
nocturnal said:
My understanding of it, and this is based on what a Taliban spokesperson himself said on tv to Al Jazeera, is that they are not against education for women, or women's empowerment generally in anyway. They just want a separate system based on gender. Surely in a conservative Islamic nation like that, it's a reasonable educational policy to implement, especially given the country's recent history.
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Correct, and even in the United States, a parent (one who can afford it tht is) can send their children to private schools where the sex is always separated. In fact, some of the most reputable schools (religious and military) in the U.S. separate the sexes.

I'm getting really tired of hearing these men get slammed for being no different in nature than any other religious authority or institution and, for those who think I'm wong on this, have a look at the famous West Point Academy:

http://www.usma.edu

The Ninth Scribe
 
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Ninth_Scribe said:
Correct, and even in the United States, a parent (one who can afford it tht is) can send their children to private schools where the sex is always separated. In fact, some of the most reputable schools (religious and military) in the U.S. separate the sexes.

I'm getting really tired of hearing these men get slammed for being no different in nature than any other religious authority or institution and, for those who think I'm wong on this, have a look at the famous West Point Academy:

http://www.usma.edu

The Ninth Scribe
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Can I ask what religion you are from?
 
Ninth_Scribe said:
I'm getting really tired of hearing these men get slammed for being no different in nature than any other religious authority or institution
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Surely the difference is in one case people are making a choice for themselves and their children, while in the other they are denying that choice to other people who might dare to disagree with them?
 
No actually these guys are real terrorists, not so called 'taleban'

My friends family is from Swat, his uncles were shot, one was killed, his servent was killed and his house was robbed and then blown up, causing his whole grandparents family to have to move to peshawar. His cousin was nearly killed whilst asleep by an rpg. His family has had grenades thrown into their front yard. Its was soo bad there that every one of their jeeps had an AK47 and a pistol, just for safety. This was all done by the so called muslim 'Taleban', pakistani military is too cowarldy to do anything about it, most of them get killed or blow up by suicide bombers

Also old men were tortured and mutilated

 
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S1aveofA11ah said:
Can I ask what religion you are from?
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You can, but I'm not sure you'll understand the answer. My religion honors all three of Abraham's religions because I cannot find any way to separate them, one from the other, and I do not see any difference between who was the first or the final prophet of Allah, apart from general chronology. So, I pledge my soul for Allah and I honor his family, all who have been brought forth by Abraham.

I do not honor that which attempts to divide them.

The Ninth Scribe
 
aadil77 said:
No actually these guys are real terrorists, not so called 'taleban'

My friends family is from Swat, his uncles were shot, one was killed, his servent was killed and his house was robbed and then blown up, causing his whole grandparents family to have to move to peshawar. His cousin was nearly killed whilst asleep by an rpg. His family has had grenade thrown into there front yard. Its was soo bad there that every one of their jeeps had an AK47 and a pistol, just for safety. This was all done by the so called muslim 'Taleban', pakistani military is too pussy to do anything about it, most of them get killed or blow up by suicide bombers
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Brother, just some advice (we all sin), but try not to use such language like you have above. The Muslim is one who avoids bad language. Set a right example. Jazak Allah Khairan.
 
S1aveofA11ah said:
Brother, just some advice (we all sin), but try not to use such language like you have above. The Muslim is one who avoids bad language. Set a right example. Jazak Allah Khairan.
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edited , you might want to edit your quote
 
Thinker said:
The newspaper article says that the school (and other schools) were closed down by the Taliban because they were educating females i.e. the Taliban decree that females should not receive the standard school education. If that is correct do you agree with what the did?

In your response above you seem to imply that there are circumstances when it is justifiable for groups such as the Taliban to close down a school under threat of violence, could I know what those circumstances might be?
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lol its funny your talking, your the same type of people who expels Muslim girls from school for simply wearing a hijab, now you want to talk about this? quite funny.
 
Trumble said:
Surely the difference is in one case people are making a choice for themselves and their children, while in the other they are denying that choice to other people who might dare to disagree with them?
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If we come to that, what is the choice of the child? In truth, decisions are often made by authority... and it's only a illusion of the mind that keeps people from believing otherwise. The former president of this country made choices that completely contradicted the will of the people. Sure, we eventually had our say in the elections, but only after hundreds of thousands of people were killed in our name! And let's be completely honest here ~ who decides the candidates that go up for a new election? Politics is not a pretty picture. It never has been. If you read my earlier post, you will see the report that called attention to the very strict Taliban rule. Now they have things like sexual freedom but they also have a very nasty AIDS pandemic that furthered their dependance on western medicine. The hopeful would say, but we quenched the thirst of a people who had no water... but what good is that if you've emptied an ocean to do it?

Afghanistan, Pakistan and all these other lands, they are not Los Angelos and they don't have to be.

The Ninth Scribe
 
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First of all, have any of you been to that region of the world?

If you have not, you have no say in the matter because that is one of the regions in the world in which i am not going to take a news articles word for, especially i do apologize i am not going to believe a news article that gets its info from the Kufr pakistani hukumat.

If anyone had a little knowledge of the situation, people all over swat know that these women schools are used by the Pakistani military to store weapons caches. Brilliant idea so in case taliban attack they can state that the taliban burn down womens education.
 
mahdisoldier19 said:
First of all, have any of you been to that region of the world?

If you have not, you have no say in the matter because that is one of the regions in the world in which i am not going to take a news articles word for, especially i do apologize i am not going to believe a news article that gets its info from the Kufr pakistani hukumat.

If anyone had a little knowledge of the situation, people all over swat know that these women schools are used by the Pakistani military to store weapons caches. Brilliant idea so in case taliban attack they can state that the taliban burn down womens education.
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Would you share with us the evidence you have for the statements you make?
 
I have read that there are some restrictions on women in Swat valley, since taleban made deal with pakistani goverment.
 
Thinker said:
Would you share with us the evidence you have for the statements you make?
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If i give you Evidence, what is Evidence to you? CNN.BBC What is evidence? What do you classify as evidence? Do you wish to see a Man with a Black Turban showing this on a video, which you probably will not find? Do you need a Pakistani military report? How do you view Evidence?
 

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