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The mayor of Brussels, Freddy Thielemans, after discussions with the police and other services, decided to ban a demonstration against the “progression of the practices of Islam,” saying he feared the event would trigger incidents between the demonstrators and the foreign population of his city, media reports said.

“I decided to forbid the September 11 demonstration ‘against the Islamicisation of Europe,” he said. “Such incitement to discrimination and hatred, which we usually call racism and xenophobia, is forbidden by a considerable number of international treaties and is punished by our penal laws and by the European legislation. The European Court of Human Rights has repeatedly pronounced judgments condemning this type of acts,” he was quoted as saying.

“The intention is obviously to confound the terrorist activities of Muslim extremists on the one hand and Islam as a religion and all Muslims on the other hand,” Thielemans added. “With regard to the planned demonstration of September 11 ‘against the Islamicisation of Europe’ my mind is made up.

And my decision is final: it will not take place,” Thielemans concluded.
The organization known as SIOE, “Stop the Islamisation of Europe,” wanted to organize a rally in front of the European Parliament on September 11, exactly six years after the attacks on New York. The organisers insisted that they have no connection to the parties of the extreme-Right, but their desire is to stop the “invasion” of Islamic practices in Europe. Their anger is directed at Islamic law, which they say violates equality and democracy.

Udo Ulfkotte, one of the organizers of the anti-Sharia demonstration in Brussels, went to the European capital to confer with lawyers about legal steps to counter last week’s decision to ban the demonstration.

Ulfkotte gave interviews to some of the major Belgian newspapers. Ulfkotte expected that thousands of Europeans, from all of the 27 EU countries, would have come to Brussels on September 11 to support the
demonstration’s demand. When asked what the organisers would do if the Belgian authorities uphold the ban.

“In that case we still ask people to come to Brussels, where we will stage a ‘birthday party’ for Mr Thielemans and everyone else who happens to be born on 11 September,” he said.

Three organisations are behind the planned demonstration; the Danish anti-Islam party SAID, the British group No Sharia Here and the German organisation Pax Europa.

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Im sure that this mayor would allow a gay parade there.
 
Im sure that this mayor would allow a gay parade there.

Yes I think so to, that is because a gay parade is about people protesting for their own rights, as where this demonstration was supposed to be a rally against the rights of others! Big difference wouldn't you say
 
Are in muslim countries banned anti- westernization marches?
 
Are in muslim countries banned anti- westernization marches?

1. I don't know of actual bans, but I do think it's plausible to happen in countries like Tunisia or Turkey or the likes.
2. There's a difference between anti-westernisation in muslim countries and anti-muslim protests in the west. The muslim countries dealing with westernisation have to deal with anti-islamic rules. Like Turkey's hijab-ban. If a group would organise an antiwesterisation rally in muslim countries, it would be to gain back religious freedoms that have been lost trough the course of westernisation. Anti muslim rallys in the west is not about regaining lost rights, quite the contrary it's about restricting the freedom of muslims who live in the west!
3. Two wrongs don't make a right. Even if there would be some double standard where I would encourage anti-westernisation rallys and discourage anti-muslim rallys. We need to remember that one country cannot excuse it's actions by the actions of another country.
 
And what if those people just wanted to fight for stopping muslim immigration to Europe to save the christian roots of this country?
 
And what if those people just wanted to fight for stopping muslim immigration to Europe to save the christian roots of this country?

Well most UN countries, including Belgium have signed international treaty's and conventions regarding refugees and regarding racism and religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Refugee_Organization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_High_Commissioner_for_Refugees
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...gency_for_Palestine_Refugees_in_the_Near_East
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Elimination_of_All_Forms_of_Racial_Discrimination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion

I suggest you do a little reading.
 
I hope Aaron, you don't think banning this was banning free speech and that this banning is in any way wrong. You see, marches like this only cause problems, have no real mean and are fueled by false information. In UK, you think you can give opinions of extremism and not get arrested? Rightly not, its not breaking free speech rights - but you know - Extremist Islamists are very misguided in the understanding of alot of teachings and thus should be banned from spreading it. Similarly here, if anyone had any reason to go against Islam, it truly means they don't have a clue about it...
 
Im sure that this mayor would allow a gay parade there.

How could you compare the two? A gay parade is for gays advocating for the rights of gays, or celebrating being gay. This is an anti-Islam protest. It's called discrimination. Do you not have an understanding of the English language (no offence) because honestly, if you did you wouldn't compare a gay parade to an anti-Islam protest.


Are in muslim countries banned anti- westernization marches?

Lmao, again? OK, This is an anti-Islam protest meaning they want to halt the immigration of Muslims into their soil. The West is a whole chunk of land. There are protests organized by oppressed people ex. Iraq against the 'US liberation' *sigh*. Why would they ban that? You're being extremely silly. I'm not even going to bother dissecting the rest of your rubbish. :mmokay:
 
Brother please lets set a good example - We are not in competition. We should help eachother understand eachother. Careful what pride can do to one! Ofcourse ignorance too is a dangerous trait. Our prophet :saw: would not encourage us insulting others, even if those provoked (not stating if you was provoked or not in this instance). Remember, the character of a human being is huge dawah itself.

true that..... i agree with you, but you know aaron is a devil in disguise, always acting so nice in one thread, then shows his true face in another, and i cant stand people like him, but you are still right...........
 
I really dont understand why this is ok

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And anti-islamization demos are not ok. :?

This demonstration wasn't anti-islam, it was anti-islamization. This is difference. This demonstration was, as i believe, to defend belgium traditional fundaments. It was against the process of civilization' change that is hapenning in Europe.
 
I really dont understand why this is ok



And anti-islamization demos are not ok. :?
lol, muslims believe that islam will indeed one day conquer rome as well as the whole world when jesus's second coming arrives, we also believe that jesus is the slave of Allah. i hope you werent offended
 
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There is obviously a double standard, but the decision was probably the right one. A demonstration like that, while completely in the realm of free speech, could lead to things that go way beyond speech. You could have people chanting anti-immigrant slogans at people as they go to work or the grocery store. The point is to make immigrants a part of you, not to isolate them further.
 
I think that ban of this demonstration just helped it, because npw many people talk about it. If this demo hapenned, probably no one would remember about it now.
 
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I think that ban of this demonstration just helped it, because npw many people talk about it. If this demo hapenned, probably no one would remember about it now.
If this demo happened, you'd have riots.

From my perspective this action by the mayor prevented a lot of violence since it was going to spread hate and racism.
 
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If this demo happened, you'd have riots.

So now we cant even mention islamization, because angry muslims in Europe will make riots? Your words rather proved that this demo had sense

From my perspective this action by the mayor prevented a lot of violence since it was going to spread hate and racism.

Again, are muslims who protest against christianization and westernization in muslim world, racists ?
 
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