child abuse and islam

[kryptamin]

Thanks for your replies, I realize I got some very bad information. I looked at the wikiislam website again and it is very non-objective. They need to change to name of the website to anti-islam.com or something to avoid confusion...

But yeah, that's what this post was about, I wanted to make sure I got the right information because I was shocked. ALrightey, thanks for the info.

 

[Search]

:bism: (In the name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)

Actually, the fact that you came to IB to discuss and seek the opinions of Muslims rather than unquestioningly accept the misinformation on the Internet shows that you have the right attitude towards seeking knowledge, which I also consider part and parcel of noble character that we should as human beings strive to have.

That said, now that you are here, I encourage you to stay and stick around and become a part of our community on IB as we don't have many members, but the active ones we do have are really friendly and you'll find that you like the atmosphere here In-sha-Allah (God-willing), and of course you seem really nice too which is a bonus!

Best Wishes,

Thanks for your replies, I realize I got some very bad information. I looked at the wikiislam website again and it is very non-objective. They need to change to name of the website to anti-islam.com or something to avoid confusion...

But yeah, that's what this post was about, I wanted to make sure I got the right information because I was shocked. ALrightey, thanks for the info.

 

[azc]

Sorry for my ignorance, but I just want to learn about the Islamic perspective.In the Qur'an, Muhammad molests Aisha when she was 9 year old child and he also hits her numerous times.I am open-minded about other cultures, and I just want to understand what you think about it.In Western countries, having sex with children is viewed very negatively. What do Muslims think about this? I heard that it was illegal, but what about Muhammad?

Your misconceptions about our prophet s.a.w display that your influenced by the ill propaganda against Islam. First, RasulAllah s.a.w never hit anyone in his whole life.Second, of marriage: When Hz A'isha was 9 years, she had reached her age of puberty. In that age, it was a normal tradition to marry with a girl of this age and keep more than 1 wife. Even Kuffar of Makka who would never let a slight opportunity go to defame the prophet s.a.w and his companions RA didn't raise their finger on this marriage.

 

[azc]

It is a well known fact, that we muslims shouldn't say it never happened, and it is pretty embarassing. It is a shame to read all the replies here asking for sources. A quick google search will pop hundreds of results. It may not be in the Koran indeed but it is part of history. Also, saying that 1400 years ago was a different time is the worst form of apology one can make, a 9 yo girl remained a 9yo girl back then, and I am kinda disgusted by my brothers and sisters claiming it isn't.

you've to see the society of that age. It was normal those days.

 

[azc]

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[Akingfisher]

He didn't molest Aisha (RA) he actually waited for her until she became a women. And it was when she got her period that, she was considered a women. She was Muhammads (pbuh) best friends daughter and her parents wanted him to marry her. And "1400 years ago was very different than now, times have changed and so have humans. 1400 years ago it was something very common to marry young girls, in fact they were not considered young girls, and rather they were considered young women back then. It is a historic fact that girls from the ages of 9 to 14 were being married in Europe, Asia, and Africa, in fact even in the United States girls at the age of 10 were also being married just more than a century ago. And he never hit her. You have the wrong meaning. You didn't understand it clearly.

Why do you use comparisons of what the non Muslim kaffar do or did do?

Surely what Mohammad did was only down to divine revelation or sanction and nothing else comes in to it?

Islam must surely stand on it's own with no need for comparison with anything else at all?

 

[Zafran]

Why do you use comparisons of what the non Muslim kaffar do or did do?

Surely what Mohammad did was only down to divine revelation or sanction and nothing else comes in to it?

Islam must surely stand on it's own with no need for comparison with anything else at all?

??? - Islam indeed stands on its own - It has being doing that from Adam pbuh all the way to the present time. Including the time of Moses, Jesus, Abraham and Muhammad pbuh.

You like using terms like "Non Muslim Kaffir" yet have no idea what it entails and frankly what it means.

 

[Akingfisher]

??? - Islam indeed stands on its own - It has being doing that from Adam pbuh all the way to the present time. Including the time of Moses, Jesus, Abraham and Muhammad pbuh.

You like using terms like "Non Muslim Kaffir" yet have no idea what it entails and frankly what it means.

Wasn't there a pre Muslim pre Islamic period or something?

As for kaffar, kuffar or any other spelling, perhaps you would enlighten me?

How did Islam stand on it's own before the Koran?

 

[Zafran]

Wasn't there a pre Muslim pre Islamic period or something?

As for kaffar, kuffar or any other spelling, perhaps you would enlighten me?

How did Islam stand on it's own before the Koran?

There is period called the Jahliya which is specific to the Arabs as they went astray. They started to worship Idols. Prophet Muhammad pbuh was calling them back to worshiping the One God that there forefather Abraham pbuh and Ishmael pbuh worshiped.

Islam is the religion of Adam pbuh. God made a covenant with Adam - which was to worship One God and follow the law. Abraham the Israelites etc were all Muslims and were called to worship One God and keep the covenant of Adam pbuh. Muhammad pbuh came as the last prophet and to call people back to
monotheism.

 

[Finding Peace]

I compared it because the non muslims like talking filthy about our prophet: they say he rapped a little girl.... I only used it to make non believers understand that at that time it was normal to marry young girls, as long as they hit purity then they can get married. It shows that not only muslims were doing that but others as well.

And for your question How did Islam stand on its own before the Quran?
Watch Ahmed Deedat -Christianity judisam or Islam - on youtube and he'll answer that for you.

 

[s.ali123]

The most interesting thing I find when someone quotes about Aisha, is that they don't even bother to know from where did they come to know about her age? Aisha herself is telling that her was 6 when contract was held, and 9 when she was shifted to Prophet P.B.U.H. house (Even though some scholars differ on age and say it was more). But the important thing is Aisha, even in her does not say anything bad about him, rather she is acknowledging him and praising him for his character and conduct. When some non-muslims claim about Aisha being "molested", I wonder from where they are taking this knowledge, because Aisha herself is calling him best husband with amazing character. If someone is taking one part of the statement of Aisha, he should also take the other part and acknowledge him marvelous character, otherwise he is being total "hypocrite" in plain words.

And west so much claims about the issue of age etc, even though Aisha is saying that she was so happy and living blissful life with the Prophet, but look at at what age the girls in west loose virginity for first time! I don't know much about USA etc, but here in Germany, it is very common for girl and boy to have sex for first time at the age of 11 or 12, and no one says anything bad that they are so young etc! And I have seen very young boys doing that, and it quite normal for them. But when someone officially say that I am his wife etc, everyone looses their mind.