Christian beliefs

[czgibson]

Greetings,

It's good to see some knowledgable Christians on the forum, and it's been interesting observing the dialogue that's been going on here.

I've got a question regarding a certain aspect of Christian belief, and I think this is the right place to ask it. It seems to be a contradiction in the Gospel of John, and it's confused me for ages. Here it is:

After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and baptized. (John 3:22)

And right over the page:

The Pharisees heard that Jesus was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John, although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but his disciples. (John 4:1-2)

The question is, did Jesus baptise or not?

Is anyone able to provide an explanation for these verses?

Peace

 

[PrIM3]

Greetings,

It's good to see some knowledgable Christians on the forum, and it's been interesting observing the dialogue that's been going on here.

I've got a question regarding a certain aspect of Christian belief, and I think this is the right place to ask it. It seems to be a contradiction in the Gospel of John, and it's confused me for ages. Here it is:




And right over the page:




The question is, did Jesus baptise or not?

Is anyone able to provide an explanation for these verses?

Peace

hello and Hi czgibson

The Pharisees heard that Jesus was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John, although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but his disciples. (John 4:1-2)
I will try to tell you my explanation of these two verses.
when it states as Jesus baptising people it could a collective group.. Jesus baptised them.
for instance at school where you have a fun raiser and your trying to get enough money at the end of it they state it was the ms. so and so who collected the most money. now even though it was her class who collected the money and not her. they still state it as ms. so and so as a collective noun.

I am going to have this checked for grammers but theres that.

 

[Pinkie]

hello Pinkie thank you for you question. I assume you are still wanting an answer to your question.

they were saved by Faith. after studying some through the Bible and through some books.
When God spoke to Noah he had to have faith that there was really a flood coming. then when Noah preached to the people about what was going to happen in the near future the people had the freedom of rejecting him or not.
then moses had faith that God was really speaking to him and he wasn't going insane or anything.
Abraham had faith when God told him to take his son isaac ( I understand it is ishmeal in the Qur'An but in our Bible it is Isaac) to the place where God told him to go with faith not knowing what would happen. and even before this Abraham had faith that God would provide him with a son from sarah.

so they were all justified by faith.
Abraham
Noah- people did not believe noah and look what happened to them.
David- when fighting the Giant had faith that God would help him through the fight.
elijah- had faith when confronting those people who worshiped a false god by challenging them to make a wood offering and to see which god would burn the offering first which would proove that- that god was the Lord God Almighty.
moses- people had to have faith following moses out of egypt.

and now with Christ- we all have to have faith that He is our redeemer and intercessor

Thank you for answering my question!