Culture Vs Religion

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I'm calling BS on this one. Do you think all british people share the same culture? Not even all the whitest londoners share the same culture.

If you define a Briton as anybody holding a British passport, of course not as some may be recent immigrants. After that British culture is a mixture of all the cultures of all the people over the last 2,000+ years who have made this island their home and forms the set of common values we have as a people. And, it seems reasonable to presume that all those who make this land their home would want to become a part of that culture otherwise they would live in a country which followed their (different) cultural values they.
 
my culture should be british what way ?
i eat and dress like n indian mostly nyway

I love Indian food and eat it all the time. British style and mode of dress has evolved and continues to evolve but is heavily influenced by the climate of the country(if I lived in India I would be wearing something which suited the climate there). You want to wear clothing designed for the humid tropics in the cold north – you a free to do that! But you are suggesting more than food and clothing, you are talking about culture. What are you trying to achieve? Are you telling me you and your family want to set up a version of your parent’s home village in the middle of England and pretend you’re in India? All my life I have been campaigning against racism and for equality and inclusion yet you seem to be telling me that your family don’t want to be a part of the British people. So why live in Britain, why not live in India?
 
You should marry the person you want to marry, I don't see what culture has to do with it? -- I think it is more what your parents think is good than the alleged cultural compatibility .. Parents may always want your best interest but they don't always know what is best.. only you can decide what is best for you..

Opposites attract.. I don't think I have ever been attracted or had any common grounds with anyone from my culture, if I did I'd be on the forum of my home country, not an LI Muslim community, where I think I have a very strong kinship with Muslims from all over, from Malaysia to Louisiana -- I wouldn't want to limit my pool to just one type of people.. God didn't create us to be isolated.. it says so in the Quran.. we were created in nations and tribes to learn from one another!

and Allah swt knows best

:w:
 
We shouldn't only want to marry people in our culture or from our country! as long as both people are muslims does it really matter? :thumbs_up
 
What are you talking about?? First, read my profile - I am British living in France (and Britain). Next, culture is more than religion, in fact I am sure we can separate culture and religion.


how can "we" separate the 2, if YOU can't?

here's a post you wrote in a response to Purest Ambrosia:

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Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
List western freedoms to me that are not found under shari'a law?
Let's hear your reasons for 'denouncing' 'such a regime'?

all the best
Ah respected Skye, I was wondering when you'd join us. . . .

Freedom . .
The freedom to wear any form of clothing and bare any part of your body (other than the obvious bits).
The freedom to send your daughter to any school you choose.
The freedom to choose your own friends, partners, husbands without being accompanied.
The freedom to marry a non-Muslim.
The freedom to work outside the home.
The freedom to work with men.
The freedom to shake a mans hand.
The freedom not to be stoned to death for adultery.

you are ABSOLUTELY demanding a change in RELIGION here, NOT culture.

so, can you post us some pix of you kneeling down in front of a crucifix? those would be keen.

and another post of yours:

I do not hate Islam or Muslims I hate intolerance, segregation and hypocrisy. I want to live in a country that promotes freedom, tolerance and understanding. I worry about their interpretation of the sharia law and I worry that you believe that they will accept your interpretation.
:rollseyes

and another:

I believe that men and women should be equal, one should not have the power to compel the other to do anything, and one should not have less freedom or less authority than the other. Without equality there is no freedom.

again, trying to host your views on culture upon a religion

this one is kind of amusing as YOU try to indoctrinate people with your views:

First try to understand that you (like the rest of the human race) are very susceptible to indoctrination. What you and I believe is coloured by the environment in which we live; I know that and I constantly strive to shed my cultural baggage when trying to look at situations objectively. You have watched TV propaganda, listened to sermons in the mosque and will have reinforced that misconceived impression in conversation with those around you of like mind. I am also subject to those same influences but I know that and I build it into my judgements. . . . . . . You see a western man holding a woman’s hand “as if he is holding a piece of accessory,” why did you not see that it was the woman holding the man’s hand as if he was a piece of accessory?” The reason is because you are seeing it through eyes which have been indoctrinated to see it that way. . . . You look at the advertisements and presume the women are being ‘used’ why do you not see that the women in those advertisements are using you to make easy money for themselves. You talk about being a good housewife like it is something to be prized above all else, to women in the west it is simply a thing in their life as important as many other things. If you want to see the truth you’ll need to factor in the possibility that what you currently believe is what you have been told, not what you have seen (Please forgive me if I sound condescending

and yet another example of you mixing culture and religion:

Yes but do you have the freedom to choose not to wear clothing covering your head? What would happen to you if you decided to stop wearing that type of clothing? Have you asked yourself why you are wearing it, have you ever questioned yourself closely on the possibility that you are wearing that clothing for any reason other than you think it pleases God?

If you never investigate the possibility that what you believe could be false, how can you know it is true?

this one always cracked me up:

During the Victorian era in my country, women would dress covering all of their body exposing nothing but their hands and face with a dress that extended down to their ankles and men used to speak excitedly about seeing a lady's ankle. At the same time women in Africa were walking around wearing nothing but a loin cloth and those same Victorians sent missionaries to Africa to explain to them why that was indecent exposure. Do you think that, at that time African men were excited by seeing ankles, or even the whole leg or even the breasts; even today there are tribes in south America where the females wear nothing but loin cloths and none of the men are excited by what they see. I consequently put it to you that what is sexually exciting to men is not what they see but what they don’t see.

in order to support your view, please post a picture of your wife out in public wearing "only a loincloth." be sure to let us know if it causes a disturbance!

nice job "separating culture from religion"
 
Are you telling me you and your family want to set up a version of your parent’s home village in the middle of England and pretend you’re in India? All my life I have been campaigning against racism and for equality and inclusion yet you seem to be telling me that your family don’t want to be a part of the British people. So why live in Britain, why not live in India?
y wud i pretend to liv in india, so if am practicing islam and following the islamic laws, e.g abstaining from free mixing, pubs etc then wud u think that am trying to set up a islamic state here of course not nationality n ethnicity r 2 diffrent things
if i lived in india and i wanted to follow islam, dress islamically, maintain halal finance etc then r u suggesting dat i shud live in saudi then where shariah law is followed. if this was wt other muslims thought den at dat rate der wudnt b ny oxygn left in saudi
 
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So why live in Britain, why not live in India?

One can easily turn that question around, considering England's long imperial history? what do you think?..
one can ask, why China, why the middle east, Why India, why Africa, why mass murder and open fire on peaceful demonstrators, why take away land by force, why help in the establishment of colonial settler state and displace thousands from their home, why rob folks of their jewels and spice and tea, why medically experiment on them, why impose on them an open door policy and run them bankrupt both morally and economically, when they have all collectively had a long, deep and profound history? But one doesn't ask those questions.. one usually lives and let live...

one day though folks are going to be pushed beyond what is humanly possible and there will be a day of reckoning as is usually the case with any grievous and long injustice...


all the best
 

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