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It seems that they have the ability do quote Bible quotes randomly. I saw their debates with Christians and it's amazing how they quote verses from the Bible so quickly during appropriate times. Did they memorize the Bible?? Please answer, it's more important than you think. Sources appreciated.

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Sadly there are very few members online at the moment. I did a few web searches but did not find any reference that either had memorized the bible. But it is obvious they have both studied it very well.

Having been a Christian in my younger days I can say that it would not be necessary for a Muslim to memorize the entire bible to be able to memorize enough key passages to present a very good refutation.

The major differences between Muslims and Christians are related to the Trinity, the divinity of Isa(as), and dietary restrictions. The Bible phrases referring to those things or lack of those things are all that need to be memorized to present a very good debate. It still is a significant feat to do so.
 
Woodrow said:
Sadly there are very few members online at the moment. I did a few web searches but did not find any reference that either had memorized the bible. But it is obvious they have both studied it very well.

Having been a Christian in my younger days I can say that it would not be necessary for a Muslim to memorize the entire bible to be able to memorize enough key passages to present a very good refutation.

The major differences between Muslims and Christians are related to the Trinity, the divinity of Isa(as), and dietary restrictions. The Bible phrases referring to those things or lack of those things are all that need to be memorized to present a very good debate. It still is a significant feat to do so.
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Thank you brother for the reply. I'll wait for someone else to confirm whether they memorize or not. I too did not find anything on google, but their debates just gives me the impression that they know the bible word to word.

Isnt memorizing the Bible haraam?
 
Yaqub Sulayman said:
Thank you brother for the reply. I'll wait for someone else to confirm whether they memorize or not. I too did not find anything on google, but their debates just gives me the impression that they know the bible word to word.

Isnt memorizing the Bible haraam?
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I am not a scholar and a fairly recent revert, I have not yet found where it would be haram. I know that much of it would probably relate to the intent why a person was memorizing it. But, in my view I do not think it would be any different than memorizing any literary work. I t definetly would be Haram if the purpose was to find justification to convert to Christianity. However, it seems that in order to debate with a Christian a Muslim would have to have some knowledge of the Bible. One of our responsibilities is to practice Da'wah and part of that Da'wah seems to be the ability to present effective refutations. You can not refute what you do not know. astagfirullah
 
I suspect before his debate takes place, he studies the relevant quotes.
 
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AvarAllahNoor said:
I suspect before his debate takes place, he studies the relevant quotes.
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As for Zakir Naik, then Avar has spoken truth, if you suscribe to Zakir Naik's IRF da'wah techniques this is one of the things which people are told to do, prepare a speech and then go through it before the actual event, thus you memorise the whole speech, I used to do this as a child, (non-Muslim) when I had presentations at school, it is very handy.

Also, if you take notice, alot of the quotes on same topics are the same, for example, when brother Ahmed Deedat speaks on the Crucifixtion Matthew 12:38-40 comes up alot, and so forth, also, for example, I have watched some of their talks so much that I have memorised some verses just through listening to them.

I don't think either of them are Hafiz, Allah knows best, I hope they were but I dont think they were.

Anyhow brother, much preparation and then much repetition will lead to ease of memorisation.

 
I know Zakir Naik has memorized the bible because i've heard him speak in conferences and he said that he has memorized the Quran, the bible, some hinduism texts and torah.
 
Roo_88 said:
I know Zakir Naik has memorized the bible because i've heard him speak in conferences and he said that he has memorized the Quran, the bible, some hinduism texts and torah.
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Wow, that's amazing! The Bible is HUGE! How did he memorize it?? It's incedible
 
I guess he's gifted, alhamdulilallah. You should listen to his lectures, it's amazing. He'll bring you proof from any book right then. Masha'Allah.
 
Yaqub Sulayman said:
Wow, that's amazing! The Bible is HUGE! How did he memorize it?? It's incedible
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studies have proved that the 'long term memory' can hold 'limitless' information....
...so i guess for anyone to want to memorise as much as they want..is possible...
 
SATalha said:
studies have proved that the 'long term memory' can hold 'limitless' information....
...so i guess for anyone to want to memorise as much as they want..is possible...
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Yup it is possible, but you have to keep up with it, can't just memorize it once and know it for the rest of your life.. repitition is the key.
 
Roo_88 said:
Yup it is possible, but you have to keep up with it, can't just memorize it once and know it for the rest of your life.. repitition is the key.
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yep...& im sure zakir naik & ahmed deedat do regularly.....its like once u memorise the quran..u do have to practice it now & then in order to not forget.....so im sure, since zakir naik & ahmed deedat have set out to debate to the world, they must go back to practice now & then...but if u try to memorise somthing too many times...your memory will keep hold of it
 
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I listened to a debate by Ahmed Deedat and he said he hasn't memorised the whole Quran let alone the whole bible. (Of course it is always possible that he went on to do that after that debate, but I don't know).
 
It's likely that he had skimmed through Quran and Bible and memorized only the verses in the Bible that represent contradictions and can be refuted. In his book The Choice he tells those who want to defend against missionaries the verses they can memorize.
 
Roo_88 said:
I know Zakir Naik has memorized the bible because i've heard him speak in conferences and he said that he has memorized the Quran, the bible, some hinduism texts and torah.
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Maybe he meant quotes from there, I.e. parts of the Bible and so forth.

I doubt very highly that he has memorised the whole bible.
 
hola,

i memorized the bible years ago... it is difficult but not impossible... i do not think that first man you mentioned has done it though, i am familiar with him and he is very ignorant... i have never heard of the second...

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