disbelieving in God

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Alphaseed said:
The Question is ,Who has the right to punish evil ?
I mean in the case of Rejecting God ?
Man or God ?
I believe it is God, He has prepared a place for people like that to spend eternity, so no man should do God's vengeance.
He is says, "Mine is the vengeance I will not be fooled"
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I agree
God gave us free will to choose between heaven and hell...or to believe or not to believe..
It is not mans job to punish the unbeliever of what ever religion.

But there is coming a time when all man-kind will turn to the one religion. But only the Christians will be affected at the endtimes, if we do not renounce Jesus Christ.

Rev 20.4 I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as didn't worship the beast nor his image, and didn't receive the mark on their forehead and on their hand. They lived, and reigned with Christ for a thousand years
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Re: Islam and Apostasy

mirage41 said:
Disbelieving in God is the worst crime? You can't possibly believe that? What about mass murder? Or raping a child? Or how about crashing planes into buildings filled with innocent people? I'm sure those are all worse than disbelieving in an uncertain god.
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I can't believe you said that, are you human? Or plain unknowledgable, everyone knows it wasn't the muslims that is doing that. You are being down to the path, of, no return. These actions of which you speak is being done by man, and not God. Get your facts straight..:?
 
mirage41 Brother your so humorous..shoukld be on stage!....seriously everyone is allowed to be stupid but you me ol' codger are abusing the privelledge...go re-read the posts inshAllah [God willing] it might knock some sense into you :) WalaykumAsalaam x
 
asalamalaikum...ok here goes...let me put it his way for the disbelievers....Allah swt does exist: An old woman was once usin a spinnin wheel 2 make thread from cotton and she was uttering the Kalimah Tawhid alongside...A traveller asked, "The God whom you are remembering, do you have any proof of his existence?" she replied, "Yes, my spinning wheel is proofof the existence of Allah swt." the traveller asked, "How is this?" she replied, " If i spin this wheel it spins and if don't give it motion it does not spin. Because the whole universe is active this is proof that someone is running it, and that entity is the One God who is the Creator and Owner of the whole universe."
wa'alikumsalam
 
But why should anyone believe that god "spoke through" a guy in the desert 1400 years ago? Pretty absurd, right?
 
do you want god to speak you right to your face?

*just asking.
 
H4RUN said:
ok here goes...let me put it his way for the disbelievers....Allah swt does exist: An old woman was once usin a spinnin wheel 2 make thread from cotton and she was uttering the Kalimah Tawhid alongside...A traveller asked, "The God whom you are remembering, do you have any proof of his existence?" she replied, "Yes, my spinning wheel is proofof the existence of Allah swt." the traveller asked, "How is this?" she replied, " If i spin this wheel it spins and if don't give it motion it does not spin. Because the whole universe is active this is proof that someone is running it, and that entity is the One God who is the Creator and Owner of the whole universe."
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Actually Newton's First Law says that a spinning wheel, like any other object, will continue to spin unless someone or something acts on it to make it stop. Or as Newton put it, Lex I: Corpus omne perseverare in statu suo quiescendi vel movendi uniformiter in directum, nisi quatenus a viribus impressis cogitur statum illum mutare. In the case of a spinning wheel, I would guess that friction between the axial and the frame exert a force on the wheel to slow it down. But if the wheel spun on a fiction-less surface, in a vacuum, it would spin forever.
 
The big bang theory is a better one... * i think..
 
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This thread has run its course. Issues relating to atheism have been discussed in threads in the comparative religion section.

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