[Snowflake]

As the title says...

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Fellow Americans: Greetings. As you well know, despite a 700 billion dollar bailout, the economy and job growth is still faltering at a drastic rate in the United States of America. Part of the reason for this is that many corporations seeking to turn a fast dollar are investing with China instead of the US. This is because China is engaging in the economic policy of holding down the value of its currency, the Yuan, in comparison to the Dollar. It's as if all of China is 'on sale'. Corporations' only obligation is to their bottom line. Keeping this in mind it's easy to see why they would invest so heavily overseas. With the value of Chinese currency so low compared to ours and the fact that US corporations are not obligated to pay foreigners American mininum wages it is not likely that the businesses currently investing in China will invest anywhere else unless something is done.




In order to stop our jobs from hemmorhaging away overseas something needs to be done about outsourcing. This petition asks Congress to pass legislation making it harder for greedy corporations to rob Americans of their right to work. There are a number of things that can be done by changing the outsourcing laws. They include: Creating taxes on outsourced labor that would force corporations to pay the same amount for labor aboard as they would for labor at home. Forcing corporations to pay American minimum wages to foreigners. Outlaw Outsourcing altogether and gradually return our infrastructure to the US.



We will let Congress decide which decision out of many is best, or which combination, but we MUST express our disgust with the situation. Otherwise corporations and the polititians in their pockets will continue to treat themselves to discount labor overseas while the rest of us continue to suffer privations and poverty.


Sign petition at: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/end-outsourcing-and-bring-american-jobs-home/


Please support to keep jobs in our countries. Thank you.

 

[Snowflake]

I hope people are voting. Remember no jobs. No medical insurance. No home. No nothing. And job loss is expected to rise. Please vote.


A future without jobs...

 

[Futuwwa]

Capitalism at work as usual.

 

[truthseeker63]

Good topic.

 

[truthseeker63]

In my view Capitalism will always ship Jobs overseas.

 

[Snowflake]

^I'm not sure. I think there will come a point when governments will be forced to do it or face total economic collapse.

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• signatures: 50 Only 50 signatures?! PLEASE sign! Not signing could mean you're literally signing your future away.
• signature goal: 1,000,000

The government, big business, and the common working man are all aware of the dilemma of our failing economy. More than a few of us have been forced to turn to unemployment, state and federal aid, and we are still losing our jobs, houses, cars, etc.. I say that we should take a stand. In the face of an ever expanding deficit we should unite as a country and take back what is ours. We have big businesses outsourcing thousands of jobs every day, and every day there are more companies turning to outsourcing to try to stay afloat. The fact is it's cheaper to pay someone in a country where our dollar is worth more than theirs. The problem is, with the jobs going over seas we have no work here. With no work here, we have no money. With no money, we cannot stimulate our own economy. Now I pose this question, "What are we willing to do about it?" I think we should force these businesses to bring our jobs back. We should do whatever it takes, boycotting, petitions, anything we can think of. Let%u2019s get our jobs back, let’s get our economy back, and let’s make MADE IN AMERICA mean something again! Let's bring jobs back home and keep ourselves afloat in this economy! We need to be a self-sufficient country and we need to turn our economy around for the benefit of everyone! Join and let's get the ball rolling!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/end-outsourcing-now/

Both sides on this issue and all those who try to navigate a middle road between the two sides, have some valid points. It is true that outsourcing has led to job loss in the US, and has had a detrimental effect on those people who may be only minimally qualified to work. It’s also the case that there are plenty of skilled labor jobs being outsourced to foreign countries. The loss is not only to people with minimal job skills.
http://www.wisegeek.com/how-does-outsourcing-affect-the-us-economy.htm

America is outsourcing, which means that millions of high-paying manufacturing jobs are lost because it is cheaper to have things made in China, India, and Mexico then in the US.

http://www.businessknowledgesource...._not_fail_with_it_feature_article_026747.html

[h=1]BPO industry not worried by Obama's call to end outsourcing[/h] MANILA, Philippines - With at least 50% of the call centers in the country having US clients, it is expected that President Barack Obama's move to attract businesses to bring jobs back home will effect on the Philippine business process outsourcing industry (BPO).
However, the Business Processing Association of the Philippines remains confident that the country's booming BPOs will not be affected by Obama's call to end outsourcing of jobs abroad.


BPAP spokesman Martin Crisostomo said business process outsourcing is already part of globalization and a part of a global business model.
According to Crisostomo, while it used to be that outsourcing is a means of survival, now its part of businesses' means of competition.
"Maaaring nabigla lang sila dahil mayroon silang mga challenges. Ang aming pananaw is 'outsourcing is here to stay'," he said.
In his State of the Union address, Obama said it was time to stop rewarding companies that ship jobs overseas, and instead start rewarding companies that create jobs in America.


"If you're a business that wants to outsource jobs, you shouldn't get a tax deduction for doing it. That money should be used to cover moving expenses for companies like Master Lock that decide to bring jobs home," Obama said.
Call center workers have mixed feelings about Obama's statement and its possible effect on their jobs.
"Confident kami na di naman matutuloy yun kasi unang-una, yun quality ng service ng mga Pinoy mataas talaga," Dran Ogbac, a call center supervisor, said.


Lawrence Marquez, a call center agent, is worried this will affect his job.
Cristostomo insisted that outsourced jobs in the Philippines do not steal jobs from US citizens, but is a way for US companies to expand and create jobs in their country.


Nevertheless, the BPAP will continue to closely monitor the situation in the US.
The Philippines is already number 1 in call centers worldwide, followed by India. It is also number 2 in voice and non-voice outsourcing. - Reporting by Alvin Elchico, ABS-CBN News

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/01/26/12/bpo-industry-not-worried-obamas-call-end-outsourcing

Conversely, an “outsourcing tax” should be introduced to discourage businesses from sending jobs overseas and companies that continue to outsource will be barred from earning income in U.S. markets.
http://www.the99declaration.org/end_outsourcing_and_currency_manipulation

^If this was done and outsourcing was limited if not banned altogether, then that might just be the best solution for everyone.

 

[Snowflake]

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[Snowflake]

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[Futuwwa]

In my view Capitalism will always ship Jobs overseas.

Obviously. Most American fanboys of Capitalism praise the system and flatter themselves with how well they make it in it, little realizing how it can hit back at them.

 

[Who Am I?]

Heh.

That's the first time I've seen the word "fanboy" used to describe anything other than supporters of a certain video game corporation....

Bonus points for Futuwwa...

 

[Sunnie Ameena]

My view on the bailouts, is this....the bailout should have been given to the people and then the people could pay off their debts and then the companies that got the money really would not have needed it. Instead, they gave money to companies to fix their problems, and then where are the people, they are still in the hole. This is suppose to be the people's government, but yet, we are the ones suffering, while the ones sitting in fancy chairs in fancy and expensive buildings, enjoying the heating or cooling, are doing what they want. Let them stay a week in a home without a/c, or heat, with very little food. They only helped one side, but if they would have helped us, then in turn it would have benefitted two. And then the people would have most of their bills paid off, and then the housing market would have picked up, and people could start buying cars again. In my opinion, the economy would have picked up, maybe not completely fixed, but it would have been a start.

 

[Abdul-Raouf]

I think.. americans of the developed USA ...cant work like the asians ...

 

[TrueStranger]

In my view Capitalism will always ship Jobs overseas.

Why don't they just ship American workers overseas as well. ;D

 

[joedawun]

I think.. americans of the developed USA ...cant work like the asians ...

Really? What exactly do you mean and what makes you "think" that?

 

[جوري]

Really? What exactly do you mean and what makes you "think" that?

Not many Americans would be happy 7 to a room working 12 hour shifts for pennies.. I presume is what he meant.. but unfortunately the problem Americans are facing is faced by most people in the world :

a Fatimid Empire tradition is dissolving in face of chinese made products..

 

[joedawun]

Not many Americans would be happy 7 to a room working 12 hour shifts for pennies.. I presume is what he meant.. but unfortunately the problem Americans are facing is faced by most people in the world :

Of course not. Those types of working conditions should not exist for anyone anywhere, but sadly they do. Anyway I thought he might be referring to the types of jobs that are being outsourced...skilled professional, tech oriented or maybe call center jobs are the types of jobs that come to mind. Perhaps Abdul-Raouf will clarify what he means.

 

[Who Am I?]

Goody goody... It's Multi-quote time!

Why don't they just ship American workers overseas as well. ;D

I would volunteer for that. Send me to India, man. Good food, good music, I like the culture.. and plenty of opportunity to learn Hindi and Urdu. Not to mention all of the brown women I like... ;D

My view on the bailouts, is this....the bailout should have been given to the people and then the people could pay off their debts and then the companies that got the money really would not have needed it. Instead, they gave money to companies to fix their problems, and then where are the people, they are still in the hole. This is suppose to be the people's government, but yet, we are the ones suffering, while the ones sitting in fancy chairs in fancy and expensive buildings, enjoying the heating or cooling, are doing what they want. Let them stay a week in a home without a/c, or heat, with very little food. They only helped one side, but if they would have helped us, then in turn it would have benefitted two. And then the people would have most of their bills paid off, and then the housing market would have picked up, and people could start buying cars again. In my opinion, the economy would have picked up, maybe not completely fixed, but it would have been a start.

This is almost exactly what I said when the government was handing out bailouts like they were going out of style. Why didn't the government pay off my debts? I have money problems too, along with a lot of other people, but where is our bailout? Why are we still expected to pay our debts when the big banks and corporations have their debts forgiven and are rewarded for it?

I think.. americans of the developed USA ...cant work like the asians ...

I think what the brother means is that we in the USA have become spoilt and lazy. There is an entire generation now that expects to be given everything without having to work for it. They have a sense of entitlement to things that they have not earned and do not deserve. It is even starting to creep into my generation as well, with all of the "Occupy" protestors demanding government handouts.

Yeah, because having a government that is already going broke spending more money is EXACTLY what we need right now... :hmm:

 

[Mister Agenda]

I think the bailouts were misguided, but sometimes outsourcing gets a bad rap. If the USA forbade outsourcing, would that not be a provocation to other countries to stop outsourcing jobs to the USA. It's not a one-way street. Many foriegn companies have plants or other businesses in the USA that employ tens of thousands of us. They open businesses here to shorten their supply lines to the American market or to take advantage of specific skill sets readily available here. It's the nature of business to seek the best deals. Sometimes we're the best deal, sometimes somewhere else is. I don't begrudge workers in India (for instance) doing jobs better or cheaper than they can be done in the USA.

 

[Futuwwa]

a Fatimid Empire tradition is dissolving in face of chinese made products..

And this is a problem? Nobody is forcing Egyptians to buy cheap Chinese lanterns. If the Egyptian lanterns disappear due to competition, it's an indication that Chinese lanterns give customers better value for their money. If not, then there is value in Egyptian lanterns that Chinese don't have. In either case, the Egyptian consumer wins.