Evidence and proof for islam

[Truthseeker100]

Hi, in short Iam a non Muslim or ex Muslim. I practiced Islam many years ago, I know some stuff about but I have recently doubts about my doubts you could say. Iam not speaking Arabic.
MY Reason why I came to this forum is I want somebody to explain to me unbiased why Islam would be the truth?

I have following concerns:
why does god must have a reason why he created man i mean we could also say for god there must be no reason why he created anything

second what is the absolute truth in islam
i know already that Muslim believe that the Quran has a Linguistic miracle that proves Islam but how do you explain this to a non Muslim who does not speak Arabic, beware I might already know the answer

third how is it that god has to open our hearts for Islam when it is we to have to search for it rationally

in short how can Islam be proven easily

 

[A.R.BRahimbaksh]

Hi, in short Iam a non Muslim or ex Muslim. I practiced Islam many years ago, I know some stuff about but I have recently doubts about my doubts you could say. Iam not speaking Arabic.
MY Reason why I came to this forum is I want somebody to explain to me unbiased why Islam would be the truth?

I have following concerns:
why does god must have a reason why he created man i mean we could also say for god there must be no reason why he created anything

second what is the absolute truth in islam
i know already that Muslim believe that the Quran has a Linguistic miracle that proves Islam but how do you explain this to a non Muslim who does not speak Arabic, beware I might already know the answer

third how is it that god has to open our hearts for Islam when it is we to have to search for it rationally

in short how can Islam be proven easily

Assalam warahmatullah e wa barakhatuhu,
In my opinion (we can't know about the intentions of Allah for the creation) but I think he created a men for worshipping and to show humility.because for worshipping angels are there and they worship better than men and a men can have choice but angels only follow his orders . I hope so that you knew about Adam (Peace be upon him) .
there is reason for everything like you posted it because you want to know the others point of view or want to debate.have you ever done anything without any reason?.if you have,maybe the reason was that you wanted to prove that anything can be done without any reason it's also a reason and there are reasons for those things who are the creation of almighty Allah. But maybe we don't know the answer we are creation and he is the creator. I don't think it must be proved that Islam is wrong the things which needs proof to be right are those who were proven wrong. Do you have any proof which claim about Islam is wrong?. Islam gives the right of men and women and it also guides in every field of life .it always talk about humanity and justice and not out of ethics.
You were a Muslim you already know that we believe nothing can be done without his permission or if he wants .so if any body search for the truth rationally but you have to use your mind your efforts which are given to you by him . If he wants anyone to search for the truth he will give a reason to that person.he will make you to think about it .can you do anything without his things that he had given to you like can you do search without your body and mind .he had given soul to you because of which you are alive and can think because he has given you health.if he doesn't want anyone to be converted in Islam also has a reason like you can see the Abu Jahl in the Islamic history.it is called he did not open his heart for Islam . because Abu jahl did know that Muhammad was not a lier he was truthfulness and still he didn't believe him.may be I am incorrect.

Jazak Allahu khairen

 

[Labayk]

why does god must have a reason why he created man i mean we could also say for god there must be no reason why he created anything

The purpose of our existence and the reason for our being is to worship Allah alone:

"And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me." (adh-Dhariyat: 56)

Allah is far above doing something for no reason or purpose. If we reflect upon the universe (proof and evidence) we will see that the One who created it all must possess infinite knowledge and infinite wisdom. It doesn't make sense that One with such wisdom would do anything for no reason. To do something for no reason is senseless and Allah is far above that.

second what is the absolute truth in islam

The absolute truth in Islam is La ilaha il Allah. If you mean what is the absolute proof in Islam, then I would say first make clear what Islam is: Islam (all of it) revolves around two main principles: 1) La ilaha il Allah 2) Muhammedur Rasoolulah

All of the Quran and Sunnah revolve around these two principles. Proving these two principles is proving Islam. The first one is very easy to prove: Allah's Wisdom, Knowledge, Power and Might is evident in all of creation. All of creation is a proof of these attributes of Allah. There simply is no other being real or imagined that possesses such attributes, therefore, these beings real or imagined do not deserve our worship but Allah does.

The second requires some knowledge but with a little knowledge is also easy to prove. The prophethood of Muhammed can be proven in a number of ways. The Quran not being imitable IS one way but there a many others. The strongest (in my opinion) or one of the strongest evidences for Muhammed being a Messenger of Allah is his noble character. If, for the sake of argument, we were to think that Muhammed was not a Messenger of Allah, then there are only 3 possibilities of what he could have been, none of which stands to reason:

1. He was deliberately lying: innumerable examples of his truthfulness both before and after his prophethood proves this notion false!
2. He was not sound of mind: His exceptional intelligence as a leader and statesmen proves this idea must itself be closer to insanity
3. He was being directed by a shaitan: All of his commands and prohibitions that brought about the best moral reforms proves that this is also false.

If you can think of a 4th possibility let me know.

An non-Arab can still appreciate the miracle of the Quran without knowing Arabic if he/she knows a little history. The Arabs were master poets and knew Arabic well. The Quran first challenged them to bring a Quran like it, they failed to do so, the Quran made the challenge easier: Bring ten surahs like it. No response. Fine, bring one surah like it. The still couldn't do that which proves that had the Quran been from other than Allah, and had been from Muhammed (Salalahu 'Alaihi wa Salaam) himself, then they could have easily produced the same as they were all masters of Arabic.

 

[Labayk]

third how is it that god has to open our hearts for Islam when it is we to have to search for it rationally

The effort we put and how Allah Treats us is a continuous two-way relationship. If we reflect deeply, put forth the effort to find, figure out and follow the truth, then Allah Will open our hearts and Guide us. If we, ourselves, close our minds, ignore the truth and follow our blind desires, then He Will leave us astray and seal our hearts which is Justice from Him.

 

[greenhill]

For me, Allah asks you to reason and use your intellect.

He kept the Qur'an unchanged for various reasons, but to keep it unchanged, it had to remain in the original language.

But what makes me believe is this.

The Qur'an mentioned 4 Books, but not explicitly said was that each Book was teaching in increments. So very subtle.

The Psalm is about Tauheed. Your relationship with Allah.
The Torah, human mechanics like to do unto others what you would expect others to do unto you.
The Gospels brought the concept of forgiveness (rather than on revenge)
With all that, Qur'an brought the laws of living in a society. With that making the lessons complete.

Now, the arrival of Books spanned from Egyptian times, through and past Roman civilisation, and the logical increments in lesson for human with each Book that came down surely points to the fact that they (the Books) cannot be unrelated to one another or purely coincidental that they have similarities. They are part of a continuum of knowledge.

Nothing can organise such message to be delivered in a timely manner with incremental knowledge spanning thousands of years except Allah SWT


Peace ✌

 

[WarriorNew]

Admittedly, I am new to Islam myself, so I am not sure I know the answers, but I will try to use my knowledge of science.

According to science, humans evolved from lower animals. In my opinion, this can be the metaphorical journey of the prophet Mohammed. Mohammed's years of receiving messages from Gabriel to write the Koran is a representation of mankind's evolution from apes. That is, it was not a literal 23 years that Mohammed was receiving messages from Gabriel. It was symbolic of stages of evolution.

Have you tried praying to Allah? If so, you will probably find that your prayers will be answered. Life must have a meaning, so a god must have created it. It is not known what this meaning is, but if the universe exists, then Allah must have created it. There could not have been a universe without someone who created the universe. That's a logical fact.

 

[Muhammad]

Assalamu alaykum,

According to science, humans evolved from lower animals. In my opinion, this can be the metaphorical journey of the prophet Mohammed. Mohammed's years of receiving messages from Gabriel to write the Koran is a representation of mankind's evolution from apes. That is, it was not a literal 23 years that Mohammed was receiving messages from Gabriel. It was symbolic of stages of evolution.

The Prophet's صلى الله عليه وسلم receiving Revelation from Allah is one of the foundational aspects of Islam that is known to all Muslims, scholars and lay people alike. This Revelation (the Qur'an) was memorised, transmitted, compiled, preserved, recited and followed throughout the Muslim Ummah since then. That same Qur'an is being recited and followed all over the world today. This has nothing to do with the topic of evolution of humans. I would advise that you study the basics of Islam well, because the 'opinion' you mentioned is basically rejecting the basis of Islam.

Life must have a meaning, so a god must have created it. It is not known what this meaning is,

The purpose of life is to worship our Creator.

 

[WarriorNew]

Thank you for the explanation, Muhammed. As I said, I am still studying the basics.

 

[greenhill]

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I have following concerns:
why does god must have a reason why he created man i mean we could also say for god there must be no reason why he created anything

second what is the absolute truth in islam
i know already that Muslim believe that the Quran has a Linguistic miracle that proves Islam but how do you explain this to a non Muslim who does not speak Arabic, beware I might already know the answer

.....how is it that god has to open our hearts for Islam when it is we to have to search for it rationally

Salaams..

You asked several questions I'll try give my reasons based on simplified understanding.

True on the reason Allah does not have to do anything but He has chosen to create us. As stated in the Qur'an (and in previous Books), we were created in heaven and sent down to earth as a test. A 'fleeting' time on earth to determine the permanent abode of the hereafter.

The test is really to find the 'rightly guided message' (it's in the opening verses of Baqarah and repeated throughout the Quran). Imagine a treasure hunt in life. You will receive the clues and we will use it to find direction. Whilst in a treasure hunt, we would not likely be sharing our information, in the search of religious truth, we will not be short of information (if we so seek it).

Allah will cause it to enter every household. In this respect, enough to trigger interest or curiousity in a person. Taking from the Qur'an, the 'invite' from Allah would be on numerous occasions. They will have serious contemplation and for some will find a shift in their 'being', humbling themselves in search and open the channel for Allah to give Hidayah. Allah only gives Hidayah to those who seek. Then there are those who do not accept the invite for whatever reason. They will not be reminded of their test and will be allowed to enjoy the limited pleasures on earth at the expense of the hereafter. The Qur'an clearly states then they will have their answers to what they used to deny. So, in other words, they would have had exposure to the truth in their time on earth and not a soul would be wronged in the reckoning.

With regards to the Qur'an being in Arabic, in essence, would I rather learn from a Book that has had countless revisions or refer to a Book that has the original words that can be translated/transliterated?

I often suffer conflict with the thought of Allah already knows the outcome. Then what is our purpose?

A subtle story in the Qur'an tells us that 2 creation of Allah, whilst one was tested, although already predestined to happen, he blamed Allah for his conduct, the other, took the blame on himself and sought forgiveness from Allah, humbling himself for his indiscretion.

Adam submitted that he wronged himself. That was the key to his salvation. Satan didn't.

We will see countless stories in the Qur'an of the messages sent that by and large it is the human pride that causes the rejection of the messages time and time again.

Could it be the term that we are slaves of Allah that creates such a strong 'anti' feeling?

So, for me, Allah knows but I do not. If I want Allah's guidance I have to seek it from Him. I have to seek His forgiveness and I have to think well, say well and do well because Allah loves that. In syaa Allah, if I follow His guidance, I will find myself amongst the people of the 'right', those who do not grieve, successful etc. and gain His Blessings and Compassion.


Peace ✌