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And i'm not just talking about extreme psychological and mental illnesses.
It includes things like depression and anxiety.

It's strange how a broken leg just so happens whilst a mental illness occurs from the devil? How someone with a mental illness is possessed whilst someone with a physical illness is not.

I shudder to imagine how it must be to be have a mental illness in Muslim countries.

It's an unacceptable and ignorant way of perceiving what is a serious problem.

And before some of you bombard me with literature stating this and that about Satan being able to possess people etc i would like to point out a fact, which is that the majority of mental illnesses arise exclusively from physical defficiencies. Which is rather ironic.
 
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is it possible for you to post up one positive thread?
 
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i say things how they are, i am not here to lead people in to a false belief that everything is fine because it is not
 
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I wasn't aware of Islam being critical of mental health issues. I'm interested to read further responses.
 
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uh? Come again Yasin? - thats the most ridiculous thing I have heard from a Munafikun. How about you increase your knowledge regarding Islam before making pointless accusations.
 
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:sl: yassin

Please dont blame Islam for your problems. Look within yourself and try to address the problem instead of shifting it. If one is mentally ill, the best course would be to seek professional help. I have a family member who isnt right in the head and he recieves professional help from doctors whilst we read read Quran on him. We dont sit around waiting for miracle to occur.
 
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yasin said:
And i'm not just talking about extreme psychological and mental illnesses.
It includes things like depression and anxiety.

It's strange how a broken leg just so happens whilst a mental illness occurs from the devil? How someone with a mental illness is possessed whilst someone with a physical illness is not.

I shudder to imagine how it must be to be have a mental illness in Muslim countries.

It's an unacceptable and ignorant way of perceiving what is a serious problem.

And before some of you bombard me with literature stating this and that about Satan being able to possess people etc i would like to point out a fact, which is that the majority of mental illnesses arise exclusively from physical defficiencies. Which is rather ironic.
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Partially because psychology was developed from the studies of the psyche, which the Greek philosophers set the foundations for. It used to include all things of the conscious, sub conscious, and even spirit perhaps. In recent years it has been narrowed down to the study of habitual thoughts and actions that form your personality. Before it was more philosophical, but now it's more about actual case studies and therapies.

In Islamic countries that have been war torn and colonized I don't imagine there are many psychology majors, but I may be mistaken. I have no idea but it's my assumption.

So traditionally in Islam 'mental illness' wasn't really a problem I guess, or wasn't recognized.

This is my guess, I may be wrong. :hiding:

All good, and bad are from Allah. It's a test, or a punishment. And only Allah can cure you. Now there has to be means in this world for treatment, I suggest a journal, try to find the trauma. In this day of information, the brain gets wired and goes nuts, so psychology is good in my opinion. Especially if you have to re-program or de-program yourself from media influences.

All that happens naturally though if you live by the Sunnah. I'm pretty sure all ailments would be cured if you live completely by the Sunnah, or at least you'd gain the knowledge required to realize it's a test or punishment.

Hope that helps...
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im jus gonna say it simply.

depression comes from ones inability to accept what Allah has decreed.
If this certain "mental problem" is dealt wiv sabr then i see no reason why you should not get ur relief for Allah has promised relief afta every hardship.
Dont b weird bro, of course we accept mental illness's, i got a so-called "depressed" cousin and all i do is pray Allah helps her WHILE GIVIN HER MEDICATION AND GETTIN HER HELP!

so its ur view of islam is a little narrowed towards the negative, i really encourage u to research more on islam bro

May Allah guide us towards the truth INSHAALLAH!!!

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take care bro, and try not to stress too much
 
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Oh yeah I forgot to add that studying psychology too muchor philosophy rather can lead to thinking in manners that are unhealthy which is why you should have a firm basis in the Quran and Sunnah first. And you should always have I mentor, that's what I've heard.

Do you go to the mosque and pray a lot? I've never had a problem that praying more didn't fix, insha Allah it stays like that.
 
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Pr4sE said:
im jus gonna say it simply.

depression comes from ones inability to accept what Allah has decreed.
If this certain "mental problem" is dealt wiv sabr then i see no reason why you should not get ur relief for Allah has promised relief afta every hardship.
Dont b weird bro, of course we accept mental illness's, i got a so-called "depressed" cousin and all i do is pray Allah helps her WHILE GIVIN HER MEDICATION AND GETTIN HER HELP!

so its ur view of islam is a little narrowed towards the negative, i really encourage u to research more on islam bro

May Allah guide us towards the truth INSHAALLAH!!!

:sl:

take care bro, and try not to stress too much
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you really need to get out more, and think outside the box.

You clearly know nothing about mental disorders

to the person that told me to sort my mental issues out, i have none thank you very much.

to the person that questioned Islam having any problem with mental disorders i suggest you open our eyes or go to Saudi Arabia with schizophrenia and see how you get treated
 
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I know from research, on different subjects, that some mental illness is caused from the medication that is prescribed. And mind control, from those who want to be rulers. Sounds like a scary movie??? Don't it? With faith, you can over come. I know that...
 
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yasin said:
And i'm not just talking about extreme psychological and mental illnesses.
It includes things like depression and anxiety.
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Islam completely accepts and even makes special exceptions for those with a mental illness. Amongst the three groups whom the Prophet mentioned that the "pen is lifted" for are the mentally ill. Islam places emphasis on the community to help them and assist them. I don't know where you got this ridiculous notion from about Islam. And it also seems you are confusing satanic possesion with mental illnesses. The two are not the same. This has been mentioned by numerous classical scholars, like Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim, as well as recent scholars, like Shaykh Umar Sulayman Al-Ashqar.

On the topic of depression, there are numerous works written by scholars to help those who are depressed. A popular book oon the subject is entitled "La Tahzan" or "Don't be Sad" in english, by Shaykh 'Aidh ibn Abdullah Al-Qarni:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/talkislam/b7651.html

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I think u've got all ur facts wrong. Mental disorders are caused by the devil influencing ur thoughts and making u think illogically etc. Today all these psychological treatments just help u change ur views and ways of thinking depending on ur disorder, but they don't get 2 the root of the problem, which is the shaitan. Islam, however, tells us how 2 cure the problem permanenty.
 
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yasin said:
you really need to get out more, and think outside the box.

You clearly know nothing about mental disorders

to the person that told me to sort my mental issues out, i have none thank you very much.

to the person that questioned Islam having any problem with mental disorders i suggest you open our eyes or go to Saudi Arabia with schizophrenia and see how you get treated
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Having a bad day? Wore an itchy sweater today? Woke up on the wrong side of the bed? Shoes too tight? Tired?

Stop hating. Research will solve your problem. Instead of telling your brothers and sisters to think outside the box, you should do it first- its called practicing what you preach.
 
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How would you get treated with in Saudi Arabia if you had schizophrenia?
 
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My mother is schizo affective, and has suffered with mental illness since I was a young child. A lot of family members, and church members refuse to believe that she has an actual illness, and have convinced her a few times that she just needs to pray and surrender her illness to religion. This of course did not help.

I can understand how mild depression can be "cured" by prayer, etc...However, more complicated forms of mental illness need to be treated with medication. I think that it is due to hormonal imbalances, and envirnmental influences.

Psychiatric drugs and research are really a blessing to many people.
 
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"sl"

I think one thing that should be pointed out is that their is a difference between Islam and what Muslims do (refering directly to the reference about how certain muslims treat mentally ill people)
 
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cheese said:
"sl"

I think one thing that should be pointed out is that their is a difference between Islam and what Muslims do (refering directly to the reference about how certain muslims treat mentally ill people)
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Islam urges us to aid those who need. <-- Yes that includes people who are mentally ill.
 
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Greetings Ansar,
Ansar Al-'Adl said:
I don't know where you got this ridiculous notion from about Islam. And it also seems you are confusing satanic possesion with mental illnesses. The two are not the same. This has been mentioned by numerous classical scholars, like Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim, as well as recent scholars, like Shaykh Umar Sulayman Al-Ashqar.
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Just out of interest, is it at all possible that cases of mental illness could be mistaken for satanic possession? That has certainly happened in Christian societies in the past (of course, nowadays, most people in the West don't believe satanic possession actually happens).

Peace