God working in our lives

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There has been much debate about God's Spirit in this forum. I hope this thread won't turn into another one of those.

Instead I am wondering if Muslims and Christians (and other religions) can agree that God works directly in our lives and that he guides us and prompts us.


Do you have stories of times when you strongly felt God's presence?
When you felt God was 'calling' you to do something?

Do you want to share your story?
 
AoA,
i have many stories but will share a little one.
I one heard an Imam speak and i wanted to read the Quran after what a Christian had told me of Muslims.
I asked the Imam after the gathering and he said he could not help me but introduced me to another man who said he would. I gave him my details but had real doubt that i would see a Quran from that exchange.

A long time past and when we had our annual show (fair, farm exibhits etc) i was a gate keeper and the Imam i spoke of drove out waving a voucher for a coke if i purchase food from a stall. I tried to explain i did not need the voucher as i would not be go into the fair. He was very pushy and insistent i needed the voucher. he kept telling me i needed the voucher even after me telling him i was not going into the fair. (he did not seem "rightly guided" to me, who tells him i need the voucher. I politely and calmly refused the voucher. Many in my culture would have taken it to shut him up, i was tempted to be week but it is not my called way, to take what you do not need. As he drove away i remember thinking well he did not recognise me. My heart makes "prayer" so much as it did then and i knew i would see this Quran soon. In the week following my V8 had developed a miss and i had been dreading pulling the plugs out as they are hard to get to. I prayed for guidance and as i was removing the plug my phone rang, I knew without doubt it was about the Quran and sure enough it was the man the Imam had introduced me to telling me i would be welcome at his home to pick up a copy of the Quran. Yes the first spark plug was the defective one.

Hope this is some of what you were looking for of Allahs kind goodness to build a thread to show He loves those who aspire to submit unto Him.
 
I don't think you can "feel" God's presence, more like you could feel his "hand" helping you or backslapping you when you been bad :D
 
I don't think you can "feel" God's presence, more like you could feel his "hand" helping you or backslapping you when you been bad :D
AsSalum o Aleikum,
I think i agree with what you say, Allah is too much for me to comprehend His presence, if i did i would most probably tremble maybe unstoppably. The times i have felt His hand as you put it i have trembled very much.
How could I as one man comprehend the fullness of Allah's presence. Or maybe in this life His presence to us is felt as we can cope, for Allah all things are possible and he is all knowing of how much i can cope with.
 
Instead I am wondering if Muslims and Christians (and other religions) can agree that God works directly in our lives and that he guides us and prompts us.


Do you have stories of times when you strongly felt God's presence?
When you felt God was 'calling' you to do something?

Do you want to share your story?

Nice thread, Glo, do you have anything to share in here?

I agree that God works directly in our lives and guides us....

I don't tend to be very "feeling" and so to feel God's presence is not something that usually happens for me as I have seen others experience it. This doesn't mean that God is any less present in my life than in theirs. I believe we just expeirence God differently. For me, not only am I one who doesn't act on emotions, but I also am not one who chases after wonders and signs. For God to speak to me it takes something very big and often he must hit me over the head a few times for me to take notice. :) Usually by the third time I hear the same message in one day from three different sources, I wake up and say "Okay, God, I hear you."

There have been many, many, many times God has called me to do something. One of the biggest was when I was choosing a graduate school program. I felt strongly that he was calling me to move and attend a school four hours away. Everything about it just made sense, but it was not something easy to decide to do. Not only would I be moving four hours away, but when I first felt the call I was pregnant with my second child and married to a man who did not want to move. Over the next year and half, God did several things that made my move to this place happen. The first thing he did was to close the door on the grad school I had applied to at my present univeristy. I was accepted, but never told until too late for financial aid, so attending that semester was not a possibility. The second thing he did was both of my husband's grandparents died within months of each other, leaving us enough of an inheritance for me to purchase a second vehicle and put 6 months rent down on an apartment. The third thing God did was he dissolved my marriage. It was not easy being a single mother of two, in grad school, and living in a new city, but through God bringing me to that place there has been so much that has happened in my life that otherwise would have never happened.
 
Thank you for sharing your experiences, PouringRain. :)

Nice thread, Glo, do you have anything to share in here?

Well, personally speaking I have a very strong sense of God being present in my life.
Indeed I would not have become a Christian if I had not felt that God was calling me by name ... (But that's not really a story for an Islamic forum ...)

However, I most commonly feel God is prompting me to do something, when I really don't feel like it at all - and when his prompting really almost goes against my own wishes and desires.

To give an example, I recall one time when I had an argument with my husband and I was so angry with him!
I went upstairs to pray to God (... well, really to whinge at God) - when I felt God tell me to go back downstairs and offer to make my husband a cup of tea. My reaction was something like "You gotta be joking! He wronged me, he should be making me some tea!"
Still, I felt that God insisted that that's what he wanted me to do ... so I submitted to his will and did what he asked.
As soon as I did something shifted. The atmosphere of anger and tension was gone. It was more than simply my husband being nice because I had made tea. I felt that God had touched us both and softened our hearts.

It may not seem like much, but often it isn't.
It is just one example of God leading me gently through life by the hand, prompting me, nudging me, and hopefully making me a better person in the process ...

I find that when I overcome my own desires and pride, and when I obey God's prompting, then big changes happen. It is that which makes me convinced that it is God at play, rather than my own doing.



Anyway, I was rather hoping to hear views from more Muslims too. :)
 
That is a beautiful story, Glo. I'm sure it was a very humbling experience as well. :) To humble yourself before your husband and submit to God's instructions even after being wronged goes against what we as humans often feel compelled to do in the natural.
 
You'll find similar experiences common amongst muslims glo

Muslims with a strong connection with Allah will have His help and guidence with them at every step, but for this I believe you need to be a practicing muslim and reach a certain level of piety, thats why I think it will be a bit awkward for members to share their own experiences without sounding boastful. I hope you get what I mean, someone may have had the most wonderful personal experience where Allah has helped them but another muslim who is not as close to Allah may not have.

Practicing muslims will remember Allah all the time, they'll rely on his help and guidence for every single thing throughout life. Allah will help and guide us with anything, whether its protecting us from harm or guiding us on a small matter - muslims have these experiences all the time. For decision making we even have a special prayer where we can ask for Allahs guidence on a matter. And yes all these blessings in life constantly remind us that Allah is present and that everything is happening by His will.
 
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You'll find similar experiences common amongst muslims glo
I am sure that is the case, aadil.
That's why I am interested to hear personal stories from people who have experienced them.

Do you have any story you are happy to share? :)

I like the Islamic sentiment of asking God for guidance and being willing to follow it.
It strikes me very similar to the Christian view.
 
I am sure that is the case, aadil.
That's why I am interested to hear personal stories from people who have experienced them.

Do you have any story you are happy to share? :)

I like the Islamic sentiment of asking God for guidance and being willing to follow it.
It strikes me very similar to the Christian view.

I know these stories are enlightening but personally I'd fear being boastful as its somethin quite personal between you and Allah and not everyone is given these blessings, theres are many instances where very pious muslims have been blessed to be able to see prophet Muhammad in their dreams but they will not talk about it nor mention it ever happened out of humility. I think its best you keep it to yourself.
 
That's fair enough, aadil.
I can understand your point of view. Thank you for explaining. :)
 
I know these stories are enlightening but personally I'd fear being boastful as its somethin quite personal between you and Allah and not everyone is given these blessings, theres are many instances where very pious muslims have been blessed to be able to see prophet Muhammad in their dreams but they will not talk about it nor mention it ever happened out of humility. I think its best you keep it to yourself.

Thank you aadil, for sharing this. :) For us Christians these stories are not boastful as they are inspirational. When we hear these stories they serve as inspiration, encouragement, learning experiences (instruction), examples, etc. It serves to confirm that God is real and does work in our lives as an active part if we are willing to listen. In the Christian faith we also recognize that people are at different levels, or different places in their walk, and some may not believd that God speaks to him. Often he does, they have just not learned to hear him yet. God can speak to us in so many ways through so many different people, things, circumstances, medium, etc. Hearing the stories of others can also help those who struggle to hear God learn how to recognize his voice. I hope I didn't leave anything out. Maybe Glo, or some of the others on here, have anything they'd like to contribute.

I would like to her some of the Muslim's stories also if they would be kind enough to share. :) I have heard some in the past. Thanks.
 
I find this thread just wonderful thank you all ! I know it's true what you're talking about.
I also agree with brother aadil that for some people because of modesty or because they fear that people don't believe them they prefer to not talk about the blessing and wonderment they receive from God. Personally I can feel God's presence in the most darkest moment's in my life, and without Allah's help I couldn't get out many problems I faced in my life.

But I have to ask a question here, and it's mainly adressed for atheist brothers and sisters here or for those who don't really believe in God's existence : In your whole life, didn't you feel some divine power that helped you in a strange/miraculous way to get out from some complicated problem that you didn't imagine that there is a way out ? I mean let's forget logical/rational resoning for a while, didn't one day feel the presence of a supernatural entity (that can be a God) that influenced you destiny or your life in any manner ? I'm not being a priest now or making da'wa, but just I want to know from your own experience.

Some of you will tell me it's jus hallucinations or some psychic weakness or even coincindence, But I want a response from your heart about a real experience.
 
I was very tired mentally one night - came late night from office... after heavy work.... but didnot feel like sleeping...Was thinking about ALLAH...and was eager to read quran...Usually i read Quran every morning before i leave to office......but in the night i usually dont - i receite which is in my memory and then goto sleep ...

But that night...i was very fond of reading quran...
the below line was in my memory - i had heard my imam reading this surah...and was eager to read that.. But i didnot know to which Surah it belongs to... Also duno how to find that line in quran...
so thought i would read anyone one surah and then goto sleep.

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Translation: So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

After doing wudu... i sat in kitchen it was a very private and peaceful place at that night.....as everyone else was sleeping and i could not switch on light anywhere else (It was not a big house with seperate rooms for each one of us)... I didnot search for any particular surah...Just opened the quran...did not turn any pages..the page which opened had a surah starting from it...

So started reading it.... What a surprise it was...Alhamdulillah... I saw the above lines in that surah...the same surah which i had wished to read that night .. it was Surah Ar-Rahman .. I read it with translation.. and It was the most wonderful feeling ever..:cry:

After reading the surah... i slept that night... woke for Fajr in the morning and went to Masjid.
After the sunnah prayer... i thanked ALLAH for that wonderful feeling he gave last night .... Then the Fajr Jamaath prayer started... What a surprise again...the imam was reading the same surah - Surah Ar-Rahman...which i loved to hear......It was a great feeling.

One may tell it is coincidental or wateva....But for me .. It was a spiritual surprise..awsome feeling....I could not forget this ever...ALHAMDULILLAH

I hope.. what i have posted above is related to this thread...:?
 
Reading quran always help akhee....it likes it giving you advice, showing you the way, solutions, a heart softener, to calm you when distress and etc. and i'm sure lots of people experience that. and sometimes it is so overwhelming. And sometimes i think it is good to share this feelings...and if anyone felt it like showing off...perhaps they can post it as anonymous :)
 
Each of us is constanly receiving guidance from Allaah(swt) some of us desire to follow it and to us this is actually felt. Christians usually refer to that as "The Holy Spirit" or the "Presence of God" I believe the feeling is the same for us Muslims, but we see it as the "Guidance of Allaah(swt)".

The more we follow this guidance, the stronger it becomes and does become a very strong physical feeling of a presence or "force". It is present in all things we do if we listen to it. Yes, there are times each of us choose to ignore it and want to do things in our own way. At those times we often lead ourselves into meandering off the straight path and untill we actively seek a return to following the guidance we begin to drift away,
 
Each of us is constanly receiving guidance from Allaah(swt) some of us desire to follow it and to us this is actually felt. Christians usually refer to that as "The Holy Spirit" or the "Presence of God" I believe the feeling is the same for us Muslims, but we see it as the "Guidance of Allaah(swt)".

The more we follow this guidance, the stronger it becomes and does become a very strong physical feeling of a presence or "force". It is present in all things we do if we listen to it. Yes, there are times each of us choose to ignore it and want to do things in our own way. At those times we often lead ourselves into meandering off the straight path and untill we actively seek a return to following the guidance we begin to drift away,
Woodrow, your post reminds me that sometimes it can feel as if Muslims and Christians have a very different perception of their relationship with God - when perhaps much of it is simply a different way of expressing it and using different terminology and language.

I agree that listening to God takes practice, and that the more we try to enter into his presence/guidance, the more we become aware of it.

Do you ever feel that 'letting go of oneself' and becoming willing to follow God - whatever it takes - is at the very heart of being able to hear God?
 
Do you ever feel that 'letting go of oneself' and becoming willing to follow God - whatever it takes - is at the very heart of being able to hear God?

That is exactly what I did 2 years ago, very little of what I now do is actually of my own desires and as a result my life has improved so much, I can not even begin to describe what happened, but it is wonderful. A short 2 years ago I was basically an invalid, no longer able to drive, could only stand for short periods of time, seldom left my room, depended on my daughter and with a very poor medical prognosis. I was simply preparing for death which was imminent. I had discussed with the Admins here about reigning as a Mod. But out of the blue Allaah(swt) sent Aabidah into my life, neither of us had any desire to remarry. Yet, we were basically forced into accepting that it was the will of Allaah(swt) to marry. We both decided to just resign from personal life and turn our life over to the will of Allaah(swt). The results have been beyond belief. Physically I am now doing things I could not do since I was a teenager, driving up to 20 hours daily several days a week, riding horses, doing farm chores all for the goal of serving Allaah(swt) and bringing Islam to people that had never even heard of Islam.
 
How do you know if you are following God or following the devil?

There was a story an 'Israelyaat' that Imam al'awlaki shared in one of his lecture, about a trusted Jew, the town's most honest man.
One day three brothers were called to the cause of Allah and so they went out on Jihad but were very fearful of the fate of their sister with no one to look after her, they approached this man and I think his name was baseesa, if someone heard the same lecture and knows his name pls then correct it, anyhow, they went to baseesa because there was no doubt about his good reputation and they knew if someone would come up with the best way to deal with the sister being left behind it would be him, so they went, and he told them, go fight in the cause of God, I'll leave food by your house everyday I'll knock on the door say 'food is here' and leave, so inform your sister of this arrangement and if she has any needs she can write it and leave it on the tray when she leaves it outside her door I'll read it and get her whatever she needs!

In the beginning baseesa would knock at the door and leave, the sister would open take the tray of food, and eat it, neither baseesa nor the sister seeing the other..
one day the devil told baseesa (though in his own mind he thought it was the voice of truth) what if she is in need of something else? She is all alone in there, surely I can knock and not leave but wait to make sure she picks the tray and ask her if there is anything else she needs then I can earn even greater reward by attending to it for what human wants to be devoid of companionship?..

And so baseesa did, and every day, the devil would whisper anew something that seems so human, what if she is lonely in there and in need of companionship, everyone needs to be held and hugged in their hour of need, surely I can offer her a shoulder to cry on, her brothers have been gone for so long and a young woman by herself it must be just unbearable.. slowly baseesa made his way into the sisters's life.. slowly everyday the devil would whisper something all too human to his mind's eye and before you know it he had bed the sister and she was with child..

Baseesa now distraught with what he had done, kept wondering how he's ever explain this to the brothers for surely they are bound to return, so the devil whispers to him, how she is the seductress as all women, she invited him in, she kissed him back, she cried in his arms, all he wanted to do was console her for her brothers absence and in her state of loneliness but she took advantage and exposed all her charms and deserves to die as is the fate of every seductress, so Baseesa decided to kill the baby and the mother..

Then again, Baseesa was distraught for how will he ever explain the whereabouts of the sister.. so the devil whispers again to him, to have her buried in a particular spot and when the brothers comes back to tell them that she became ill and he'd found out because the trays of food kept collecting outside her door and he had to investigate and as such he found her dead and had to bury her upon death..

sure enough the brothers returned and asked the whereabouts of their sisters, and Baseesa told them she was buried in this spot, of course the devil had told him to bury her in a different spot and tell them another..

The brothers were very distraught, but they had no reason not to distrust baseesa and of course no one ever disturbs the graves of the dead.. but the devil then kept whispering to the brothers, Baseesa is an awful person, how can you trust him, and the brothers would battle those thoughts for surely the righteous never think ill of another.. nonetheless the devil kept at it, and he said if you don't believe me then simply dig in this spot you won't find your sister there, if you do then Baseesa is trustworthy and if not, then you must know that he isn't and if you want I can show you where she is truly buried..

The brothers justified to themselves that they are doing the right thing to go digging where Baseesa told them their sister was buried, when lo and Behold, they find no one there.. then they went to Baseesa and confronted him, he confessed that he'd killed her but never told them about the child, and again the devil whispered to them, so finally they went to where the devil told them to dig when they find both mother and child buried and they knew that Baseesa had betrayed their trust and committed a great sin!

a court is set up and Baseesa is sentenced to death.. the Devil then appears in form to Baseesa and tells him, Baseesa you were innocent all along, but every day I'd whisper to you, something making you sin appear like charity and good deeds, but if you bow to me now I'll make all of this go away for you know as I had the power to expose you, I have the power to save you.. so Baseesa bows to the devil, gets put to death anyway, not only having lost everything but his very soul for his last deed wasn't of repentance and submission to Allah swt but to the devil himself...

Moral of the story.. well it should be obvious .. but the next time you think those whispers are from God or maybe attribute to good or your own soul as we surely all justify our 'good deeds' to self , know that it can be your eternal enemy making your life-style and deeds appear all the more good to you to drive you to the abyss!

all the best


 
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