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I HATE IT when people (mostly muslims) turn things around in Islam, I.E. rules to suit it for them! Can they not see that arguing with the Hadith and Qur'an will not get them anywhere but in the hellfire?!?!

Like today I tried telling a girl, with Hadith and Qur'an references that Music is haraam and she just laughedin my face! I was shocked and dissapointed at the attitude ofa Muslim towards the Hadith and the Qur'an! :heated:

What is this world coming to?!?!?!?!


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salam.
sis you don't worry about it cause atleast god knows you told her and she refuses to listen to you so when she dies god will punish her!!!!
w.salam
 

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Thats scary!!! subhanAllah, sounds like the signs of sum1 dumb/death/blind... and those people are damned .
Pray 4 ur friend that inshaAllah Allah guides her! Its hard for any1 to quit str8 away but wiv time it'll ease in inshaAllah .

Im in the same situation btw, but the one i kno goes he thinks its uncertain coz sum scholars say its ok if the intention is in the right place, i say dont try it!! lol its sum scholars wiv there views... gives wrng impressions

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SubhanAllah, Allah guide them, this is a very delicate sensitive issue and as Muslims we need to find away around it and compromise whilst observing Islam ettiquetes..The Quran states:
"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching and argue with them in ways that are best." Sura An-Nahl 16:125
We must refer back the to hadeeth in which the Prophet [Pbuh] says that there are going to be somewhat 73/4 sects after him, now bearing this in mind each sect has its own interpretation of hadeeth and Sunnah, therefore we must look at the authinicity of the hadeeth and base our final verdict not looking at one dhaeef hadeeth but basing it on a collection...as for Quran the more iggnorant of us must understand they are the words of Allah and He has vowed to protect it, so no being on this Earth can manipulate it into something based on falsehood, Allah grant us all Jannah and bring us to leanr about deen-ul-haaq and keep us on Siratum-mustakeem Ameen WalaykumAsalaam x
 
Well there are people who are called Scholars because they 'sound' so knowledgable that go around giving their views on Islamic issue which others then take as Fatwas.

Then there's the whole trend of using mediums used by non-Muslims and applying them to Islam.

There's loads more, it's just another Islam - say version 2.0.
 
What the hell?...you missing version three? duh!...Yano what, why dont you jsut bring out version 4 5 6 7 8 9 n 10? and if you want to stretch it the extra yard or few 11, 12 and so forth...Listen ya'll Follow the Quran and Sunnah and you will not stray >> Nuff said Peace out x
 
Well there are people who are called Scholars because they 'sound' so knowledgable that go around giving their views on Islamic issue which others then take as Fatwas.

Then there's the whole trend of using mediums used by non-Muslims and applying them to Islam.

There's loads more, it's just another Islam - say version 2.0.

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how bout we dont change whats already perfect eh?

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how bout we dont change whats already perfect eh?

The world is changing around you. Islam needs to adapt. That is not to say that it needs to change, but if technology changes, Islam needs to be able to work in the modern world. So can you divorce your wife by text message? A scholar needs to sit down and think about such issues and come up with an answer. Islam will develop over time, but that does not mean it will change. A friend once told me that Islam was like the moon - always changing, but always the same. Of course he wasn't a good Muslim but I like that metaphor.

And for Ms Kuri, I am sorry you had a bad experience. But don't let it get to you. It is not your fault if she did not listen to you. Your responsibility is to lay down the correct path, politely to not turn away a heart and clearly to be as convincing as possible, and the rest is up to them and God. Don't stop but don't get mad either.
 
The world is changing around you. Islam needs to adapt. That is not to say that it needs to change, but if technology changes, Islam needs to be able to work in the modern world. So can you divorce your wife by text message? A scholar needs to sit down and think about such issues and come up with an answer. Islam will develop over time, but that does not mean it will change. A friend once told me that Islam was like the moon - always changing, but always the same. Of course he wasn't a good Muslim but I like that metaphor.

And for Ms Kuri, I am sorry you had a bad experience. But don't let it get to you. It is not your fault if she did not listen to you. Your responsibility is to lay down the correct path, politely to not turn away a heart and clearly to be as convincing as possible, and the rest is up to them and God. Don't stop but don't get mad either.

ok sorry but islam is just as suited for this day and age as it was in the times of the prophet s.a.w it doesnt need changing
 
The world is changing around you. Islam needs to adapt. That is not to say that it needs to change, but if technology changes, Islam needs to be able to work in the modern world. So can you divorce your wife by text message? A scholar needs to sit down and think about such issues and come up with an answer. Islam will develop over time, but that does not mean it will change. A friend once told me that Islam was like the moon - always changing, but always the same. Of course he wasn't a good Muslim but I like that metaphor.

And for Ms Kuri, I am sorry you had a bad experience. But don't let it get to you. It is not your fault if she did not listen to you. Your responsibility is to lay down the correct path, politely to not turn away a heart and clearly to be as convincing as possible, and the rest is up to them and God. Don't stop but don't get mad either.


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im gonna say it plain n simple!

ISLAM IS PERFECT THE WORLD IS NOT!! LET THE WORLD ADAPT TO ISLAM!

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im gonna say it plain n simple!

ISLAM IS PERFECT THE WORLD IS NOT!! LET THE WORLD ADAPT TO ISLAM!

So can you divorce your wife by text message? Which way should a Muslim astronaut pray in outer space? On Mars when should a Muslim begin the fast for Ramadan?

I do not say Islam needs to change. But Muslims will always have questions about how to apply Islam in their daily lives. Scholars will always have to give opinions on how to do so correctly. Legal books will always grow bigger and bigger.
 
So can you divorce your wife by text message? Which way should a Muslim astronaut pray in outer space? On Mars when should a Muslim begin the fast for Ramadan?

I do not say Islam needs to change. But Muslims will always have questions about how to apply Islam in their daily lives. Scholars will always have to give opinions on how to do so correctly. Legal books will always grow bigger and bigger.


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am sure u can divorce ur wife thru text but ur a right A** if u do.

In space the muslim shud pray in the direction of the kaba

No1s eva goin 2 mars mate

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