How can that be... the Noble Quran has very little scientific knowledge in it. It would be like saying Christians are brilliant because Thomas Edison was brilliant and he was a Christian, so anyone using his knowledge is stealing from Christendom.
Orientalists are saying this themselves now, that's whom Shaykh Hamza learnt it off.
The Muslims taught it to the Christians willingly but when you do not attribute it to the right source (such as lie and say this knowledge is from the Greeks and not Muslims), that's stealing!
Regarding emphasis on 'knowledge' from Muslims that enabled the renaissance, this is not an exaggeration, I happen to have the same video that AbdullahAziz has ������, just take a look at what Hamza Yusufs research has found;
the Shaykh gave an account of an ancient Muslim Scholar who gave an example of meeting a Christian Scholar and found that he did not have any foundation for speaking, because he didn't understand the intellectual underpinning of munadhara [dialectic]; the Scholar taught him a sound Islamic intellectual principle and then as they discussed the Christian view of Jesus [pbuh], the Christian said that the proof that Jesus [pbuh] is god is that he brought the dead to life, the Scholar said that according to that analogy, he has to also believe that moses [pbuh] was a god too for he brought an inanimate object to life, the Christian said, "no we do not say that", the shaykh said, "but is it not a sound intellectual principle/analogy that I just told you"?, the Christian said "I'm confused"!.
Another Scholar commented on that, saying "the Christians [even their Scholars] had a hard time understanding things".
Shaykh Hamza continued: well how is it now that they teach fozzy logic, how is it now that they teach bhumian logic and all these intellectual sciences, well if you study how they learn it, you will see that they learnt it by interaction with muslims; Roger Bacon who was teaching in England used to wear a Saracen robe and a turban and he got acused by the Church of England of apostasy because he was teaching the people that the muslims actually had important things that they should learn.
The following points were made by the Shaykh:
The pope used to send Christians to andalusia to learn from Muslims.
There was no universites in the west untill they started looking at how the Muslims were teaching their children.
The western university introduced the concept of 'lesensia losendi' [licence to teach], whcih was a direct translation from Islamic sources.
the Islamic word 'Doc-Tur' [Doctor] is infact a person who had a license to teach and before a person got a license to teach, he had to bring forth a fatwa and defend it before a group of Scholars; the west copied the word 'doctor' and copied the same methodology...
The word 'Chair' [as in 'Chairman', 'the chair of the organisation' etc,] is from Islam; Islamic teachers used to sit on the chair, and they used to be called 'Chair of Fiqh', 'Chair of Hadith', etc, etc, and the students used to sit on the floor.
The gown and the tussle hat used when a western student graduates, is from Islam; this is what Muslim graduates used to wear, and even the tussle on top of that hat is taken from Islam too; Muslim graduates used to be given a hat with a tussle so as to remind them that Allah has them by the naseeyah [forelock] and they should fear Allah.
If you look at the sciences of the muslims, the Arabic Grammer is the first deep intellectual analysis of language; prior to that, grammer was verry superficial. The Arab Grammarians went into such depth and profundity into the language that they presaged all of modern linguistic thought and theory; if you take old grammer books from Basra and Kufa, which were the two great centres for grammer in the classicial Islamic world, and you look at the ideas that these people were talking about, you litterally become overwhelmed and amazed at the subtlety and depth of this intellectual tradition; they scientifically broke down the Arabic language; they recognised patterns that had not been recognised in language before; what they now call semantic trees, diagraming, they [the muslims] were doing all these things;
they taught the Jewish people grammer of Hebrew; prior to that hebrewic grammer was extremely rudementary, if you look, the hebrews did not even know that their language was based on trilitteral roots, the muslim grammarians taught them that; the muslim grammarians taught them adjectives; the Hewbrew language was extremely poor in adjectives; all of medevil Hebrewaic poetry is based on Arabic metres of poetry developed by Al-Khalid Ibn Ahmed; the jews did not have sophisticated poetry prior to that; there great poetry is all based on Andalusian Jewish poets, who were imitating the metres of the Muslim poetry; so they [the jews] have massive intellectual debt [to the muslims].
And I really think that the intellectual debt that Europe [owes Muslims for] what they call the 'Judeo.Christian' culture, which is a fabricated word invented in the 1930's or sometihng; prior to that, they used to call it the Greco-Roman culture and suddenly this word pops up, and now they call it the Judeo-Christian culture; obviously, during the progroms that existed, no Christian would want the name 'Judeo' attached to the Christian culture; that would be an ethema, I mean, why were they kicking them out?; these people owe a massive debt to the Muslim Ummah that goes beyond explanation, I mean, you just have to look at their own sceinces...
One of their theory; this is the traditional European theory about Islam; is that all of the classical Hellenistic traditions were deposited in the bank of the muslim Caliphate; in other words, we got all these books and put them in our banks and we never looked at them and there was no accruing of intellectual interest and they just stayed there; and then these great Europeans re-discovered them, and that was it!.
That is a complete fabrication of what happened; the Muslims took Hellenistic thought and expanded on it, critisized it, threw out large sections of it, used sections of it and re-introduced it in Europe solely with commentary, in other words, there is no St. Thomas Aquinas without Ibn Rushd, and he [St.Thomas] is their greatest medevil Scholar and he litterally is the foundation of the Catholic Church; St. Thomas Aqunias does not exist without Ibn Rushud, and you could look at his [St. Thomas'] section on Just war and recognise that it is just a translation of Islamic Jursiprudence from Ibn Rushud's book, he [St. Thomas] talks about Muslihah, Mufsidah, I mean it's massive [the copying].
Mathemetics: there is no Newton without Ibn Kurrah, there is no Newton without Khawarizmi, there is no lebenige, there is no calculus without Algebra, which is a contribution of the muslims, there is no Higher mathemetics without people like Omar khayam, it's impossible, and this is true, this is fact, why then, you see out of this Arrogance, why then are they so abusive?
[then the Shaykh went on to talk about what he thinks one meaning of the end of time sign that the slave girl with give birth to her master, is; he said]: I think one of it's meaning is that; the Muslims were an intellectually humble people, based on slavehood to Allah and it gave birth to the western civilisation, then Europe turn around and treats the Muslims like some pathetic amma, that they can just order around, destroy with impunity, go in and do whatever they want and not give any attribution of what they've stolen; I say stolen simply because, knowledge is free for everyone, but you steal it when you dont attribute it to the source, to where it was derived from. there is an intellectual responsibility that goes with taking the ideas of others, and this is why, even in this culture they footnote everything, well why dont you footnote that our whole civilisation came from the Islamic civilisation; theres your number one footnote. ☺
I read a book called the History of knowledge by Charlse Vanadoran and in it, one of the people he dedicates it to is Ibn Khaldun; but the truth is, he should have dedicated the whole book to the Islamic civilisation, who were not only the caretakers of human knolwedge for 800 years, but who also added to it great thought; great ideas, and then gave it to us; the muslims used to teach Christians in Andalusia; the Christians used to sit at the feet of the muslims and the muslims allowed them to sit in their circles; some of the [Islamic] Scholars used to critisize this; infact Qadi Iyad said that we shouldn't allow Christians to sit in our circles because they take all of our knowledge back to their people and don't tell them where they got it from; the intellectual legacy [of the Muslims] is Awesome and overwhelming
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How can that be... the Noble Quran has very little scientific knowledge in it.
The Quran emphasises learning, hadith says seek knowledge even if you have to go to China, thus Islam galvanised Muslims to learn, study and become great intellectuals!
