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Nasheeds are allowed right? What are the limits of Nasheeds so they are kept Halal?
 
In my opinion and a lot of highly and well respected scholars, its not allowed regardless of what it is used in.

My sig - " Listening 2 Music is 'fisq' (rebellion, evildoing) and enjoying it is 'kufr' (disbelief) " is said by a famous scholar called Imaam Abu Haneefa
 
Can your highly respected scholars proove music to be haram? Whne Muhammad(saw) enter the gates of Mecca the women and men greeted him with music and singing, and he mentioned nothing about what they were doing to be haram.
 
Abd Majid, you're the one saying that music is haraam, you proove to me that it is. You know anything that Allah subhana wa ta'ala did not make haram you will be punished if you tell others that it is. We have to be careful when we say that things aren't prohibited by Allah subhana wa ta'ala.
 
Salah ad-din said:
Can your highly respected scholars proove music to be haram? Whne Muhammad(saw) enter the gates of Mecca the women and men greeted him with music and singing, and he mentioned nothing about what they were doing to be haram.
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The gates of Medina I meant.
 
Salah ad-din said:
Can your highly respected scholars proove music to be haram? Whne Muhammad(saw) enter the gates of Mecca the women and men greeted him with music and singing, and he mentioned nothing about what they were doing to be haram.
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i never heard anything about them greeting him with music. They played the duff when he entered Medina

Theres a time when Aisha RA was singing and abu bakr RA said

"THE INSTRUMENTS OF THE SHAYTAAN, in front of rasullulah saws", implying that it is the instruments of the DEVIL! But rasullulah saws said to leave them, why? "IT WAS EID!". So if done it should be on an extremely rare basis with "DUFF" only.

anymore daleel? :D
 
Salah ad-din said:
Music is not haram
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Really? Stating facts that have to do with Islam without citing evidence is wrong. In your case, stating things that are wrong without citing evidence is very wrong. Lest your comments be read by a person and thought of to be true, you should never throw out a verdict on such an issue without providing an explanation.

Music is haraam. This is a well known fact.

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Among my ummah there will be people who will regard as permissible adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (5590). See also: al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani (91).
 
salaam alaikum!

so music is not haram? or is it only western music thats haram?:)
 
Abd'Majid said:
i never heard anything about them greeting him with music. They played the duff when he entered Medina

Theres a time when Aisha RA was singing and abu bakr RA said

"THE INSTRUMENTS OF THE SHAYTAAN, in front of rasullulah saws", implying that it is the instruments of the DEVIL! But rasullulah saws said to leave them, why? "IT WAS EID!". So if done it should be on an extremely rare basis with "DUFF" only.

anymore daleel? :D
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They played the duff. What is playing the duff? Is it not music? Abu Bakr is not Muhammad(saw) and neither God.
 
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Really? Stating facts that have to do with Islam without citing evidence is wrong. In your case, stating things that are wrong without citing evidence is very wrong. Lest your comments be read by a person and thought of to be true, you should never throw out a verdict on such an issue without providing an explanation.

Music is haraam. This is a well known fact.

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Among my ummah there will be people who will regard as permissible adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (5590). See also: al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani (91).
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Where does this hadith say that musical instruments is haram? I'm waiting for the well known proof of fact.
 
Salah ad-din said:
Where does this hadith say that musical instruments is haram? I'm waiting for the well known proof of fact.
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I don't understand how you could miss that.

“Among my ummah there will be people who will regard as permissible adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (5590). See also: al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani (91).

Look at the context. Is adultery permissible? No. Is alcohol permissible? No. Is silk permissible? No. So what makes you think the musical instruments are permissible?
 
Just for you I've found more proof.

And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…” [Luqmaan 31:6]

Al-Hasan al-Basri (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this aayah was revealed concerning singing and musical instruments (lit. woodwind instruments). (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 3/451).

“[Allaah said to Iblees:] And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice (i.e. songs, music, and any other call for Allaah’s disobedience)…” [al-Israa’ 17:64]

“Do you then wonder at this recitation (the Qur’aan)?

And you laugh at it and weep not,

Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)”

[al-Najm 53:59-61]

Al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The four madhhabs are agreed that all musical instruments are haraam. (al-Saheehah, 1/145).

I need to know, what more proof do you need? I wouldn't dare go against the four Imams in any matter. When the Quran, Sunnah and the Imams have all declared that the musical instruments are haraam, I don't understand how you can continue to deny this.
 
Of course the things sated in that hadith before musical instruments are not permissible, but Qur'an and other ahadith forbids adultry, silk and alcohol, what other hadith or ahaith are there forbids musical instruments which will proove that in the hadith posted here it means that musical instruments are haraam?

The duff was not the only instrument played as I have heard from othwer learned Muslims when Muhamamd entered Madina.
 
Samee said:
Just for you I've found more proof.

And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…” [Luqmaan 31:6]

Al-Hasan al-Basri (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this aayah was revealed concerning singing and musical instruments (lit. woodwind instruments). (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 3/451).

“[Allaah said to Iblees:] And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice (i.e. songs, music, and any other call for Allaah’s disobedience)…” [al-Israa’ 17:64]

“Do you then wonder at this recitation (the Qur’aan)?

And you laugh at it and weep not,

Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)”

[al-Najm 53:59-61]

Al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The four madhhabs are agreed that all musical instruments are haraam. (al-Saheehah, 1/145).

I need to know, what more proof do you need? I wouldn't dare go against the four Imams in any matter. When the Quran, Sunnah and the Imams have all declared that the musical instruments are haraam, I don't understand how you can continue to deny this.
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This is not talking about ALL music. Of course such music like certain rapp, rock etc is not for us to listen to, but nasheeds are not. I really dislike when people make things haram that are not. Allahu Alim.
 
Salah ad-din said:
They played the duff. What is playing the duff? Is it not music? Abu Bakr is not Muhammad(saw) and neither God.
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salam,

the duff was used only for certain occasions like marriage festivals etc.

This is not directly related with the topic at hand, because most anasheed artists do not use musical instruments in the first place.

Nasheeds are allowed right?
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I'm not a scholar to give a fatwa. But i definitely want you to check this out:

And when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am about to place a viceroy in the earth, they said: wilt Thou place therein one who will do harm therein and will shed blood, while we, we hymn Thy praise and sanctify Thee? He said: Surely I know that which ye know not.

But hymn the praise of thy Lord, and be of those who make prostration (unto Him).

And We made Solomon to understand (the case); and unto each of them We gave judgment and knowledge. And We subdued the hills and the birds to hymn (His) praise along with David. We were the doers (thereof).

Only those believe in Our revelations who, when they are reminded of them, fall down prostrate and hymn the praise of their Lord, and they are not scornful, (32:15)

I typed the word 'Hymn' in the search version of my pickthall version of the Qur'an and about 30 references popped up! But better check the transalation + tafsir.

wsalam.
 
Salah ad-din said:
This is not talking about ALL music. Of course such music like certain rapp, rock etc is not for us to listen to, but nasheeds are not. I really dislike when people make things haram that are not. Allahu Alim.
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If that is your final verdict on music, then I can't change that. The hadiths and Quran verses clearly say that singing and music is haraam.

Al-Qaasim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Singing is part of falsehood. Al-Hasan (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: if there is music involved in a dinner invitation (waleemah), do not accept the invitation (al-Jaami by al-Qayrawaani, p. 262-263).

Another case of two pious men declaring music and singing haraam.
 
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