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:sl: I repeatedly debated with maternal grandfather about what I read in my earlier thread about music and he says that the Internet is flooded with catholics and he needs further proof from The Noble Quran. As this issue holds a lot of meaning to me, I need to clear my doughts as this is very important.
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assalaamu alaykum,

is the saying of the noble prophet Muhammad saws not good enough for you?

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
 
Salaam,
Actually many non-muslims are flooding the internet with wrong info and it is not correct to believe any quotations without proof!
 
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what about the sahih hadith which is agreed upon by 'ijmaa? all four madhabs are in agreement that wind and string instruments are haram. Also anything giving a bad feeling is haram.

is that not enough?
 
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Surah Luqman verse 6 was revealed for the purpose of all forms of idle entertainment which leads to corruption, this is music aswell according to mufti menki.

if that helps at all.
 
We all know that Prophet Muhammad(saw) has given us directions on each and every aspects.

So give those proofs and then let the Questioner decide his path. Instead don't give a rough suggestion. In case if he needs to help his friend then he needs proof.

without which nothin is believed in this current era.

So Bro's and sis who knew that Music is haraam please provide the relevant proof in terms of Hadith's or quranic versus

Assalamu alaikkum(warah)
 
shible said:
We all know that Prophet Muhammad(saw) has given us directions on each and every aspects.

So give those proofs and then let the Questioner decide his path. Instead don't give a rough suggestion. In case if he needs to help his friend then he needs proof.

without which nothin is believed in this current era.

So Bro's and sis who knew that Music is haraam please provide the relevant proof in terms of Hadith's or quranic versus

Assalamu alaikkum(warah)
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:sl: True, I agree.
 
hassaanejaz said:
http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/ Please go to Surah Luqman=Surah 31 and use Eng- Yusuf ali. How do we know that music is idle tales/talks
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we take the interpretation of the companions of the prophets when it comes to the verses, if the companions interpret it to be talking about music, then thats what we take it as. We understand the quran as the companions understood it

radhiallahu ta'ala anhum
 
hassaanejaz said:
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:sl: Thank you heaps, I have got my answer!
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Excuse me if i'm wrong, but it seems like you want to believe that music is halal. Think carefully and examine the evidence. The vast majority of scholars are agreed upon that music is haram. SO don't take the opinion of just one scholar.

Concerning the ayah:

“And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…” [Luqmaan 31:6]

The scholar of the ummah, Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: this means singing. Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this means playing the drum (tabl). (Tafseer al-Tabari, 21/40).

And ibn 'Abbas (ra) was amongst the most knowledgeable of the companions, and no scholar today can debate with his understanding of the Qur'an.

Read here for more info:
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=5000&ln=eng&txt
 
^ sis i think he thinks that music is haram and wants to prove it to his uncle.

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One of the places in the Qur’an in which music and singing is forbidden is the following;

“And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead men from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, the Verses of the Qur’an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment.”
[Qur’an, Surah 31, Verse 6]

In this verse, the term ‘lahwal-hadees’ (Idle talks) is taken to mean music and singing.

The great Companion Hazrat Abdullah ibn Mas’ud (R.A) states:
“By Allah its meaning is music.”
(Sunan Al-Bayhaqi, 1/223 & authenticated by Al-Hakim in his Mustadrak, 2/411)

Hazrat Ibn Abbas (R.A), another Companion says;
“The meaning of the word is music, singing and the like.”
(Sunan al-Bayhaqi, 1/221 & Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba, 132/5)

Hasan al-Basri (R.A) said:
“This verse was revealed in relation to singing and musical instruments.”
(Tafsir Ibn Kathir, 3/442)

So, the above verse of the Qur’an, along with the statements regarding its meaning is clear in the prohibition of music.

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This is a really interesting discussion for two reasons:
1. The evidence that Music is Halaal is good but there is some doubt.
2. It shows me a bit about how Muslims think through difficult issues and read the Qur'an.

Thank you.

I'm curious why recitations are musical since music is generally forbidden. And why do places like Iran and Afghanistan and Malaysia and Turkey have such a rich musical history?
 
Hello brenton,

I'm curious why recitations are musical since music is generally forbidden.
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One of the reasons why music is considered to be forbidden in Islam is because it occupies people's attention and distracts them from Allah's worship and remembrance and also invites to His disobedience. So in this regard, the Qur'an is very different to music in that it is actually the Words of Allaah, the Exalted, Himself, and therefore it is the best of speech and the best of things with which to occupy one's time.

Muslims have been ordered to recite the Qur'an and beautify it with one's voice, as Allaah says:

...and recite the Qur'ân (aloud) in a slow, (pleasant tone and) style. 73:4


And the recitation of the Qur'an has its own rules and it does not involve any instruments. An important point to note is that:

It is not permissible for the believer to recite Qur’aan with melodies like those of songs or in the manner of singers. He has to recite it as it was recited by our righteous predecessors, the companions of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and those who followed them in truth. So it should be recited with the proper intonation (tarteel), in a solemn and humble manner, so that it may have an effect on the hearts of those who hear it and on the heart of the reciter himself. ​
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Reading it in the manner or way of singers is not permitted.

Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li Samaahat al-Shaykh al-‘Allaamah ‘Abd al-‘Azzez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him), vol. 9, p. 290​
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I hope it is clear, therefore, that there is a great difference between music and the Qur'an.​
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Thank you for your question.​
 
I am not sure that I understand. Would "idle talk" just be singing? What if it is just music (like classical) with no words?
 
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