If Adam and Eve were white where did all the other races come from?

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I was telling someone at work about Islam and he said to me,

"If Adam and Eve were white or black or whatever they were, how did all the different races come about like chinese, black, white, shouldn't we all be white if that's what our parents Adam and Eve were.

He also asked me this,

"Adam and Eve's children were brother and sister, so does that mean it's ok to sleep with your sister? cos they did it."
 
AnonymousGender said:
I was telling someone at work about Islam and he said to me,

"If Adam and Eve were white or black or whatever they were, how did all the different races come about like chinese, black, white, shouldn't we all be white if that's what our parents Adam and Eve were.
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I'll leave this one to Skye - she knows more about this topic than me, and she'll explain it better.

He also asked me this,

"Adam and Eve's children were brother and sister, so does that mean it's ok to sleep with your sister? cos they did it."
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No. Adam and Eve wore very little - do that today and you go to jail for exposing yourself. So that's that logic dealt with!

It was allowed then because logically speaking it was the only way the human species could have survived beyond two people! It's now disallowed (unanimously apart from certain urban areas cough chav-cities/redknecker-woods cough) for sociological reasons; there are also medical reasons too (which I'll let the scientists on board to deal with).
 
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Genetically speaking, incest can lead to all kinds of kinds of genetic diseases and complications. Not a very safe way to start off the entire human race.

There are of course some who consider the creation story to be a figurative account, rather than a literal one ...



Alpha, according to your understanding was incest allowed until Muhammed brought the new law against it?
Would the prophets who came before him not spoken out against incest too?

I never understood that Muhammed brought new laws - I thought he brought the same message other prophets had brought before him.
 
Greetings,

You only have to deal with awkward questions like this if you take the story of Adam and Eve literally.

Peace
 
check out Ibn Katheer's stories of the Prophets, this stuff is dealt with there
 
I guess Allah had placed the genes of all nations in Adam and Eve.

Rules at that time were different. For example, Eve was created from Adam (A.S) yet was made his wife.
 
Salaam/Peace

AnonymousGender said:
..."If Adam and Eve were white or black or whatever they were, how did all the different races come about
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I read in an article that Eve was black . Anyway , He who created the whole Universe , Human , Jinn ,angels , skies , oceans and everything between Heavens and earth , is it hard/ impossible for Him to create different races ??

O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another.

Verily, the most honourable of you with Allah is that (believer) who has At-Taqwa (i.e. one of the Muttaqoon (pious - see V.2:2). Verily, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware.

( سورة الحجرات , Al-Hujraat, Chapter #49, Verse #13)


"Adam and Eve's children were brother and sister, so does that mean it's ok to sleep with your sister? cos they did it."
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This has been answered in the forum earlier . Regarding Hadith , Adam and Eve (pbut) had 100 pairs / twins kids. Bro of one pair was allowed to marry sister of another pair. Marriage between bro and sis of same pair was not allowed .

When number of humans increased , then marriage between bro and sis became illegal / totally forbidden .
 
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There is a hadith in which Prophet(S.A.W) told "Everyone has a different face, thinking, personality because everyone is made from the different part of the earth".
 
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And at those times, IT WAS ALLOWED TO MARRY FROM THE SIBLINGS FOR THEY HAD TO INCREASE THEIR NUMBERS.
Was there any other way?
 
The genetics offf Adam and Hawya are very complicated. They would have had between them all of the genes responsible for every Human trait between them.

Without turning this into a long discussion over the science of genetics, just sop and think. They had they had the potential to produce children of every race.


It is over time and environment we lost some genes in the various races leaving just specific sets for each race. The easiest description as to how this took place is in the Hadith:



MMohammed said:
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There is a hadith in which Prophet(S.A.W) says "Everyone has a different face, thinking, personality because everyone is made from the different part of the earth".
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Thinking about it that is a very good explanation and a good description of genetics in daily language.
 
Greetings,
Woodrow said:
The genetics offf Adam and Hawya are very complicated. They would have had between them all of the genes responsible for every Human trait between them.
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Is that possible?

Peace
 
asalaam alaikum


Adam and Eve had children, and these like Alpha said on the first post - twins were born [as mentioned by Ibn Katheer], and one from each pair would marry the other from the other pair.


Now in regard to the mutation aspect - this is a response by Abdul Fattah;

Mutations also aren't as common as you make it seem, and it is very unlikely that the first children already all had these mutations. It would probably take several generations.

Secondly, merely for the sake of argument, even if their children would have these mutations, it's highly unlikly for them to all have the same mutations, hence the second generation will not have an issue with this either.

And thirdly, again, as muslims we don't believe in the existence of chance, everything follows a cause and effect. And you build on the premise that indeed an omnipotent and omniscient God created them, then it seems perfectly plausible that God didn't "cause" any mutations to occur in the first few generations, untill there was a large enough population to intermingle.

http://www.islamic-life.com/forums/atheism-agnosticism/questions-confusions-existence-god-2082/page3#post10256
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The majority opinion about that specific issue of Adam's children that is adopted by many muslim scholars based on the collectives of stories regarding them is that Qabeel was given a woman from the Jinn, and Habeel were given women from the Hour Al-Ain of Janna, which Qabeel felt jealous considering he was the older. They did not have children.

The other main son of Adam Shaith is the grandfather of prophet Idris and Noah and Ibrahim.

In other stories the wives were twin sisters who were mixed up and Qabeel got Habeel's twin while Habeel got Qabeel's twin who was more beautiful, making Qabeel jealous that he got the less beautiful wife.

Anyway, the recorded tradition and hadith say that the races were not then, they were after Noah's ark landed and the families who believed woke up to different languages and separated to found their own tribes and nations. Noah's three sons formed the three main races of Abysinians (africans), Greeks, and the son Sam was the father of Ibrahim, from him were the Arabs and Israelites.

God knows best there is much conjecture and sources are mixed with jewish scripture so authenticity is hard to determine.
 
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Glo, to my knowledge, it was only allowed for the children of Adam.
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The grandchildren of Adam and eve would still be genetically awfully close to produce healthy offspring.

I think unless we pull the God-performed-a-miracle-card (which, of course, he may have done), we cannot really explain the creation of the entire human race as descending from one couple ... not scientifically or genetically speaking.
 
AnonymousGender said:
"Adam and Eve's children were brother and sister..."
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I was a student at a christian grade school for 8 years... We were also learning about christian faith.
They teached me, Adam and Eve's children were brothers, Kain and Abel. Kain didn't like Abel, so Kain killed Abel.

Did my teachers and the whole christian thing is a big lie?????????^o):uuh:<_<:-\
 

Assuredly the creation of the heavens and the earth is greater than the creation of mankind; but most of mankind know not. (Al-Ghaafir: 57)


I think unless we pull the God-performed-a-miracle-card (which, of course, he may have done), we cannot really explain the creation of the entire human race as descending from one couple ... not scientifically or genetically speaking.
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God can do anything he wills.So it is not compulsary for science to explain everything :)
 
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Sorry to divert the thread but

Is it true that Christianity it is believed that prophet Lut (as) got drunk and commited incest with his daughter then the next night his other wanted to commit incest so got him drunk.... ??
 
Allah (swt) commanded the angels to take the soil/ clay from different part of the earth, and thus created man, from dark, browns, yellow etc shaded of dirt from the earth.

Mentioned in Ibn Kathir commented by Imam Anwar Awlaki
 
i studied this subject and its a very long subject which is clear you need to gain knowledge on.

every pregnacy eve had were all twins boy and girl. the twins that came from the same tummy were not allowed to marry eachother but they were allowed to marry the next set of twins, one boy from the first tummy to the girl from the next tummy if that makes sense.

Allah made it allowed then but its not allowed now brother. remember reading in news paper once, a guy wanted to marry his sister because they were attracted to eachother, he thought it was allowed because it was allowed in the old times but he ended up getting arrested anyway. :)
so not only is it not allowed its also a big crime also and there so many mix ups that can happen, diseases you name it.. its an endless list and he didnt have an answer then to give to the judge.
 

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