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career is first, family and marriage is second
Men and women are equal in every matter.
Accept woman as a leader of the people.


Are you saying that God doesn’t want Muslim women to have a career, to believe they are equal to Muslim men and Muslim men cannot have a Muslim woman as their leader? Well indeed you are that is what you’ve said but surely God made us all equal?
 
Are you saying that God doesn’t want Muslim women to have a career, to believe they are equal to Muslim men and Muslim men cannot have a Muslim woman as their leader? Well indeed you are that is what you’ve said but surely God made us all equal?

Open a biology book. Does a female look like a male? We are not talking about souls here nor knowledge. But science does say that woman think differently than men, in some way. However, that doesn't mean that woman are stupid, or that men are smarter.A Muslim woman can have a career.
 
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Please read this article. We are going off topic.

WOMEN IN ISLAM


In the name of Allah the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

Islam is the fastest growing way of life in the west with 80% of the converters to Islam in the USA and the majority in the UK being women ( The Times newspaper) if you know little about women in Islam you should ask your self why so many liberated western women want to become Muslim? Why not ask practicing Muslim women about their faith and oppression rather than listen to the propaganda we hear regularly in the media.

THE LIBERATION OF WOMEN

Islam liberated women 1400 years ago and continues to liberate women today. Many people are surprised to find out that Islamic law guaranteed rights for women 1400 years ago that women in Europe and America only obtained recently. For example Islam clearly teaches that a woman is a full-person under the law and is the spiritual equal of a male. They have the right to own property, operate a business and receive equal pay for equal work. They cannot be married against their will, are allowed to keep their own name when married and have the right to divorce. They have the right to inherit property and to have their marriage annulled due to neglect and mistreatment. The right that women received 1400 years ago under Islam were almost unheard of in the west till the 1900s and some of these rights women are still fighting for today…..

Let’s look at some of these right and privileges in more details……

KINDNESS TO THE WIFE

At the time of the emergence of Islam it was socially accepted by most societies to treat women poorly and to favour males. Islam made it a part of faith to treat women well. The prophet Mohamed (pbuh) taught “the most perfect amongst believers in faith is the best in conduct. And the best of you is the best to his wife”

THE IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATION

Islam emphasises the importance of education and bringing up girls well. The prophet (pbuh) said “seeking of knowledge is obligatory on every Muslim”. He (pbuh) also taught that those who educated and provided for 2 daughters or sisters till they became independent the Allah (swt) would grant them paradise.

THE HONOUR OF THE MOTHER

The mother has a very honoured position in Islam. The prophet (pbuh) advised a man who asked “o messenger (pbuh) of Allah who among the people is the most worthy of my good company?” The prophet (pbuh) said, “Your mother”. The man asked, “Then who else?” the prophet said "your mother”. The man asked “then who else?” so the prophet (pbuh) replied again “your mother”. Then the man asked “then who else?” the prophet (pbuh) said “your father”.
This shows that the mother is given three times the likes of kindness and good treatment as the father.
Kindness to both parents is considered in Islam to be next to the worship of Allah (swt).
“your lord has decreed that you worship none save Allah, and that you be kind to your parents”. If one of them or both of them attain old age in your life, say not to them a word of disrespect, nor shout at them but address them in terms of honour”. (Qur’an 17:23).

THE RIGHT TO WORK, EQUAL PAY, INHERITANCE

In Islamic law women have the right to own and inherit property, operate a business and receive equal pay for equal work. Women are allowed to work, especially in positions which are needed by society e.g. nursing, teaching and medicine. However it should be stated first that Islam teaches that a women’s role in society as a mother and a wife are the most sacred and essential. The man in Islam has to provide and maintain his wife, his children and in some cases his needy relative especially the females. This responsibility is not reduced even if his wife is wealthy or she has her own personal income. This variation of financial responsibility between man and women is reflected in the inheritance rights, she inherits less because her financial responsibility is less.

MARRIAGE

Marriage in Islam is based on love and mercy as mentioned the Qur’an (30:21). It is a means to perpetuate human life and is a source of emotional well being and spiritual harmony. The Qur’an emphasises this essential unity of man and women in a beautiful simile: “they (your wives) are your garment and you are a garment for them.” (Qur’an 2:187).
Just as a garment hides our nakedness a husband and a wife, by entering into the relationship of marriage, secure each other’s chastity. The garment gives comfort to the body; similarly the husband gives comfort to his wife and vice verse. The garment is grace, beauty and embellishment of the body, so too is the wife to the husband and the husband to the wife. Instead of being forced to marry against her their will, Muslim women are allowed to play an active part in choosing their husband. And do not (like many people believe) have to marry anyone against their will. Indeed a marriage against the will of the girl is invalid in Islamic law. The status of being an individual partner in marriage is emphasised by the fact the woman keeps her maiden name after marriage. This is the opposite of what occurs in the west which itself is based on the Greco-roman culture, where women took the name of the husband, because the women was considered the property of the men.

THE RIGHT OF DIVORCE

Unlike other religions where women are not allowed to divorce and are considered adulteresses if they marry again (Mathew 5:32). Divorce is allowed in Islam. However it is not encouraged. If it is done, it must be amicable and both parties must speak kindly and with dignity to each other.

THE EQUALITY OF WOMEN

Numerous verses of the Quran make it clear that men and women are equal in the sight of Allah. According to Islam the only thing that distinguishes a person is their level of Allah-consciousness. “For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah’s praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward” (Qur’an 33:35).

RAPE

The respect in which women and their bodies are held in Islam is emphasised by the punishment men for rape. In this country men can get out of jail in a few years. In the Judaeo-Christian teachings, there is hardly a punishment at all for the man; the suffering seems to be for the girls!!! “If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they discovered, he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives” (Deuteronomy 22:28-30). However, a man found guilty of rape in an Islamic society could face the death penalty. This indicates the gravity with which Muslims view crimes against women.

POLYGAMY

Polygamy, as a practice has exited for centuries. Interestingly many Jews and Christians criticise Islam for polygamy. However, most of the prophets in the Old Testament had numerous wives. Also Jesus (pbuh) never criticized or cancelled the Jewish law on polygamy, thus implicitly agreeing with it. In the past, polygamy was almost completely unrestricted, men taking as many wives as they wanted, and often abusing and maltreating them Islam, however restricted the practice to a maximum of 4, and men were ordered to deal justly between them. Each wife has rights and must be provided for equally. “Marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then marry only one.” (Qur’an 4:3). Although polygamy is allowed, in Islam, it is unusual to see men with more than 1 wife. However, the practice of polygamy has many benefits. There are more women in the world than men (i.e. women live longer, the extra genetic information in a women’s extra x-chromosome has been shown to protect female babies from death in the womb or soon after birth) and this is worsened in times of war. Therefore, polygamy is a way of ensuring all women can get married. Thus as married women they can be maintained financially and can be a wife & a mother.

CONCLUSION

To understand the status of women in Islam, we need to realise that Islam asserts that although men and women are equal in the sight of Allah (swt), they are inherently different; therefore the laws governing them are different. It is clear that many “Muslims” (often due to ignorance or culture) treat their wives badly, but this is a flaw of the individual and not the religion. The basic reason why Muslims do anything is because we believe that the Qur’an is one of Allah’s (swt) miracles, the word of Allah, in a complete and unadulterated form, and Mohamed (pbuh) is his final messenger, and as such we fol low the divine teachings. Why not find out for yourself if the Qur’an is really a miracle, it is still unchanged today (as prophesised). Check yourself if they are the words of god. Why not find out more about the man Mohamed (PBUH)? Was he really a messenger of god? “and if you are in doubt as to what we have revealed to our servant then produce a chapter like it and call your witnesses or helper beside god if you are truthful, but if you cannot, and of a surety you cannot, then fear the fire whose fuel is men and stones which is prepared for those who reject faith.” Qur’an 2:22-3. You owe it to yourself to find out, after all women are not badly treated in Islam. Maybe Islam is not what you thought it was either….

May allah guide us all.....amiin

 
This is for the muslims !

Assalamu Alaikum


Question:Is It Always Impermissible To Imitate the Dress of Non-Muslims?
Answer:

salamu `alaykumHave you ever seen a brother walking around with a t-shirt on? Someone wearing a tie? Dress pants? A sister wearing jeans, modestly covered by a lengthy upper-garment? If you have, then you have also probably seen someone mentioning the impermissiblity of doing so due to it being an imitation of the non-Muslims, something the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) emphatically forbade.

It is narrated in the Sunan of Abu Dawud (#4032) that the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said:

من تشبه بقوم فهو منهم

“He who imitates a nation is from them.”

He (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) also said, as narrated by Imam Tirmidhi in his Sunan:

“He is not from us who resembles other than us.”

Similarly, there are many other narrations from the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) that command the Muslims to avoid imitating specific groups. For the sake of brevity these narrations will not be mentioned.

From this, one may conclude that imitating the non-Muslims in any way, shape, or form is interdicted by the shari`ah . This, however, is not the case as the scholars of the religion make clear in their expositions.
The Linguistic Meaning of “Shabbaha”

The word is derived from the root sh-ba-ha and indicates “likeness, similitude, assimiliation, parable, resemblance”. For example, it is said:

شبہه به

“He made it to be like it”

It also comes in the meaning of مثله , as in Urdu we say “ mithal ke tor pe “, to mean “comparison” or “likeness”. Thus, one states:

شبہت الشىء بالشىء

“I placed the thing [in place] of the other thing.”

What is signified by this is a common attribute shared by the two “things”. So, here it comes in the meaning of, for example, “The brightness is like this brightness” or “The hardness is like this hardness” or “`Ali is like a lion” and so forth. Another eample of this is:

ومنه : أشبه الولد أباه : إذا شاركه في صفة من صفاته

“The son resembled his father, when he shared in an attribute from his attributes.”

The Legal Definition & Conditions Of Impermissibility

The Mawsu`at al Fiqhiyya states that the scholars of law did not stray from this linguistic usage of “ shabbaha”. This is because the linguistic meaning of a word is taken into consideration when formulating the legal meanings of expressions. Thus, for example, the reason why the Hanafi scholars consider intention to be an obligatory condition for the validity of one’s tayammum is because the word “ tayammum ” - in its linguistic sense - carries the meaning of “directing oneself” (qasd). This is mentioned by Imam Zayla`i in his Tabiyin al Haqa’iq :

التيمم في اللغة القصد قال الله تعالى { ولا تيمموا الخبيث } أي لا تقصدو

Defining “imitation”, Mufti Taqi `Usmani states in his Taqrire Tirmidhi (Vol 2, Pg: 331):

“‘Imitation’ (tashabbah) is (a word) used for one who directs himself (qasd), of his own accord, to a specific group in order to imitate them and be like them.”

It is important here to note the stipulation of “directing oneself” or “resolving” to imitate the disbelievers as a condition for impermissible “imitation”. This condition was also mentioned by Ibn `Abidin in his Radd al Muhtar and Imam Haskafi in his Durr al Mukhtar . Imam Haskafi stated:

وجوزه الشافعي بلا كراهة وهما بها للتشبه بأهل الكتاب : أي إن قصده ؛ فإن التشبه بهم لا يكره في كل شيء ، بل في المذموم وفيما يقصد به التشبه ، كما في البحر .

“(s: Regarding reading from the mushaf in salah ) And it was permitted by Shafi`i, without dislike, and the two companions (s: of Abu Hanifa) considered it disliked because it was an imitation of the People of the Book i.e. with the intent/resolve to do so. Indeed, imitation of them is not disliked in all things, but (only) in (the imitation) of the unlawful and in imitation with the resolve to be like them.”

Ibn `Abidin states in his commentary:

قال هشام: رأيت على أبي يوسف نعلين مخصوفين بمسامير ، فقلت : أترى بهذا الحديد بأسا ؟ قال لا قلت : سفيان وثور بن يزيد كرها ذلك لأن فيه تشبها بالرهبان ؛ فقال { كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يلبس النعال التي لها شعر } وإنها من لباس الرهبان . فقد أشار إلى أن صورة المشابهة فيما تعلق به صلاح العباد لا يضر ، فإن الأرض مما لا يمكن قطع المسافة البعيدة فيها إلا بهذا النوع . ا هـ وفيه إشارة أيضا إلى أن المراد بالتشبه أصل الفعل : أي صورة المشابهة بلا قصد .

“Hisham said: ‘I saw on Abu Yusuf two sandals with crampons and said, ‘Do you wear this out of distress?’ He replied, ‘No’. I said, ‘Sufyan and Thawr ibn Yazid disliked it because it resembles the monks’. He stated, ‘The Prophet wore sandals which had hairs on it.” (Ibn `Abidin states) Indeed, it (such sandals) are from the dress of the monks. Verily this points to the fact that such appearance of imitation linked to the righteous servants was not harmful… and in it is also an indication regarding the basis of such imitative action - it was an appearance of imitation without resolve (s: to be like them).”

In the Mawsu`at it states:

والتشبه في غير المذموم وفيما لم يقصد به التشبه لا بأس به

“And imitation in other than the unlawful and in what one does not resolve to imitate (the non-Muslims in), then there is no harm in it.”

Mufti Taqi `Usmani further says:

“Imitation, without resolve or intent (s: to imitate the non-Muslims) is not prohibited even though one resembles the non-Muslims due to it.”

Another aspect that falls into impermissible “imitation” is something that is specifically a sign of the non-Muslims, such as wearing a cross, a yamaka , and its like - such that an onlooker would consider that person from among such people. This is prohibited.

أن يكون التشبه في الوقت الذي يكون اللباس المعين شعارا للكفار ، وقد أورد ابن حجر حديث أنس رضي الله عنه أنه رأى قوما عليهم الطيالسة ، فقال : كأنهم يهود خيبر ثم قال ابن حجر : وإنما يصلح الاستدلال بقصة اليهود في الوقت الذي تكون الطيالسة من شعارهم ، وقد ارتفع ذلك فيما بعد ، فصار داخلا في عموم المباح ا

Therefore, it can be stated that “Prohibition of Imitation” of the non-Muslims comes into effect in one of two ways:

(1) Either through one’s directing oneself in imitating them, of his own accord, with the intention of being like them, or

(2) Through imitation of something religiously or otherwise unique to them, in a way that would allow an onlooker to consider one as “one of them”.

Interpreting the Narration “He who imitates a nation…”

From what has preceded, it can be seen that the narration prohibiting imitation can be interpreted in two ways:

(1) If “imitation” here is taken in its linguistic capacity to mean “general likeness” then the the general usage of the word “imitation” will be considered as an application of “the universal used in terms of the speicifc” (`aam makhsus). This is easily gleaned from the fact that specific aspects such as eating, drinking, sleeping, and so forth are precluded - by default - since imitation in them cannot be avoided. Imam Ibn `Abidin states in his work:

مطلب في التشبه بأهل الكتاب ( قوله لأن التشبه بهم لا يكره في كل شيء ) فإنا نأكل ونشرب كما يفعلون بحر عن شرح الجامع الصغير لقاضي خان

“(imitation of them is not disliked in all things) such as our eating and drinking…”

(2) If “imitation” is taken in its legal sense then the narration is specific from the very get go to mean what was mentioned earlier. Thus, what is meant is that imitation of the non-Muslims is only prohibited if one of the two conditions previously mentioned above are met.

The Role of Custom (`Urf) In Defining “Imitative” Aspects

Despite the fact that the conditions for prohibited imitation are fundamentally twofold, some people may still argue that these conditions are actually effectively met by wearing the clothes of the “westerners”.

The fallacy of such an argument is, firstly, that no Muslim in the west wakes up in the morning and intends to wear jeans to imitate the non-Muslims, or T-Shirts, or Calvin Klein dress shoes, or Nike. Even if specific people do, this is not a sufficient criteria for a general ruling or prohibition.

Secondly, the “west” as a “nation” includes both Muslims and non-Muslims and it can no longer be said that the western dress is an exclusively “non-Muslim” one. Thus, such clothing is *not* a distinct and unique sign of non-Muslims. The principle here is, as Maulana Ashraf `Ali Thanawi and others mention, that if something becomes customary and general in a land then the prohibition of imitation is lifted.

Maulana Thanawi states in his Tuhfat al `Ulema (Vol 2, Pg 130):

“If wearing coats and pants became customary here (in India)… then it will not be prohibited to wear.”

Similarly, he stated (Ibid, Pg: 131):

“It was asked whether it is permitted for women to wear cuffs on the sleeves of their upper-garments? The reply was that wherever it is considered an imitation of men it is forbidden and wherever it is not then it is permitted.”

(Note here that the same conditions apply for women imitating men and vice versa as stipulated previously)

He also said (Ibid, Pg: 130; Imdad al fatawa, Vol 3):

“A person inquired that if a Muslim is residing in London and dresses in a shirt and pants does this count as imitiation of the non-Muslims? It was replied that this is not considered imitation because there, in London, such dress is not thought of as something extrinsic to the land. Rather, everyone wears such clothing. If over here (the subcontinent) coats and pants become customary then it would not be forbidden here also.”

Mufti Taqi `Usmani On The Principles Of Dress

Mufti Muhammad Taqi `Usmani, one of the elading scholars of the Hanafi school in our times, said ( Taqrir ):

“The law has given much flexibility as it relates to the fiqh of dress, and has not made necessary on the ummah any specific form of dress whose opposing would be impermitted. Rather, Islam has laid down general principles related to dress and has made permissible for people to wear any type of clothing as long as it conforms to these guidelines. “

These principles are, in summary:

(1) The covering of the `awra , which for men is from just below the navel upto and including the knee and, for women, all of her body except her hands, face, and feet.

(2) The total avoidance of imitating the opposite sex.

(3) The total avoidance of imitating the non-Muslims.

(4) The total avoidance of wearing dress for the purpose of displaying arrogance and not being excessive.

(5) The total avoidance of wearing that which has been interdicted, such as silk (for men), dragging the garment out of pride (for men), and so forth.

An Answer On Women’s Clothing: Ustadha Shazia Ahmed

Q. Must a teenager wear a jilbaab once she reaches puberty? If her clothes are not tight fitting, does it not suffi

In the name of Allah, the most Merciful, the most Compassionate.

Once a woman reaches the age of puberty (and a little before it, too), she must in front of marriageable men:

a) cover her body with clothing that is

1) loose; tight-fitting clothes are unlawful

2) thick enough such that the color of the skin does not show through

3) and long enough to cover the body;

She should also try not to wear clothing that attracts attention according to the culture of the area where she lives. For example, bright colors are perfectly normal in some parts of Africa, whereas they would turn heads in some parts of Canada.

As long as she fulfills these conditions, she is not obliged to wear the Arab style jilbab or abaya.

More importantly though, is modesty in her character. The Prophet, may Allah bless him and give him peace, said that modesty is a branch of faith and in another hadith, he said that it only brings good. Modesty is lacking in today’s times, so whoever is blessed with this characteristic, has indeed been given a beautiful quality.

And Allah knows best.

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Further, for men, somewhat tight clothing that does not clearly define their `awra is slightly disliked. Tight clothing that fully defines the shape and form of the `awra would be prohibitively disliked and sinful.

Conclusion

This was a general summary of the issue. Simply, wearing the everyday clothes most of us wear is perfectly fine. One should, though, try to avoid modern day fashion brands that are signs of the corrupt - as wearing such clothes does have spiritually negative effects regardless of whether we “feel” it or not.

However, one should equally strive to emulate the prophetic sunna . It is highly recommended to follow the sunnas of dress, which are general principles one should follow not limited to any specific type of clothing. The prophetic message was for all mankind and not merely a specific group. Thus, we see in the sunna these general principles that are applicable everywhere.

Among the sunna actions of dress are:

(a) Keeping the pants above the ankles,

(b) For women to keep their garments lengthy, such that one’s `awra does not become uncovered when doing everyday actions,

(c) Being moderate i.e. neither too lavish nor too tattered. Imam Sarkhasi said that the way of moderation in dress is sometimes wearing ones best clothes (even when alone to test one’s intention for Allah, not only doing so in front of people), usually wearing moderate clothes, and sometimes wearing old and worn-out clothes. The latter is for the purpose of realizing one’s blessings and being thankful.

(d) Wearing white (sign of purity) and black (sign of majesty) are both from the sunna ,

(e) For men to cover their heads,

(f) Being generally modest, and

(g) Not causing undue attention, and striking a balance between following the sunna and this.

Further, one should also avoid pride, arrogance, and forgetting the Divine favors bestowed upon one. One should be wary of ulterior motives.

Like food and drink, clothing is a blessing from Allah. It is like a gift and the least that is expected of one is to not use such a gift in disobeying or doing anything against the giver of the gift. This is the lowest level of thankfulness (shukr).

It is pertinent to note here that the blessings bestowed upon us by Allah are aspects which we have done nothing to earn. Rather, it is out of Allah’s generous nature that we are able to attain these blessings. These blessings should become indicators pointing to the greatest blessings bestowed upon us, which are that of life and faith. Take these small things as aspects reminding you of Allah. This is the state of the “knower” for he sees the signs of God in everything for “Verily in these are signs for people of understanding.” (20:128)

Be thankful to Allah, since thankfulness is the key to increase of one’s love, faith, and general good, turn to Him in true submission and humble yourself.

Wasalam

Salman Younas


Approved by Faraz Rabbani
 
That's not quite the same thing - ardianto said that doing the following were examples of imitating the Kufr and consequently haram and my question was directed to him. Do you agree with him?


career is first, family and marriage is second
Men and women are equal in every matter.
Accept woman as a leader of the people

I agree with Islam. If you would like to know what Islam teaches. I have pasted a nice article.
 
It seems that once again there has been in-depth discussion on the finer points of a question – 'Imitating the kufr' without anyone knowing why it is not allowed. Or is it that some scholar has once again extended what obviously might be decreed haram e.g. imitating another religion and extended it to include everything else? Or is it that you just don’t know?

Imitating what?
Clothes? Because woman in Islam cannot wear tights etc...
 
It seems that once again there has been in-depth discussion on the finer points of a question – 'Imitating the kufr' without anyone knowing why it is not allowed. Or is it that some scholar has once again extended what obviously might be decreed haram e.g. imitating another religion and extended it to include everything else? Or is it that you just don’t know?

This:

Or is it that some scholar has once again extended what obviously might be decreed haram e.g. imitating another religion and extended it to include everything else?


Has happened on occasion and will probably happen again. Which is one reason we should not blindly follow any scholar and verify all we read.

In simplicity I see that we should not "Imitate the Kufar(non-Muslims)" as in doing so we may either neglect or alter our own worship or be lead into doing that which is haram. Some of the things that non-believers do, we believe to be sinful and to be honest some of them are attractive and tempting.

As far as what is considered to be "Imitating the Kufar" seems to have been well covered in the preceding posts.
 
The article relating to womans rights in Islam points to a side of Islam we are not shown very often in the Western world i agree. In relation to womens rights regarding rape however i have read numerous reports of young girls being tried for adultery under Sharia law after being raped and amnesty international have recently been involved with a case of this nature in Africa. These reports cause much concern to those trying to expand there knowledge and understanding of Islam. Please understand I am not wishing to grossly generalise or insinuate this happens often in the Muslim community but this is in stark contrast to the article and serves to breed fear.
 
The article relating to womans rights in Islam points to a side of Islam we are not shown very often in the Western world i agree. In relation to womens rights regarding rape however i have read numerous reports of young girls being tried for adultery under Sharia law after being raped and amnesty international have recently been involved with a case of this nature in Africa. These reports cause much concern to those trying to expand there knowledge and understanding of Islam. Please understand I am not wishing to grossly generalise or insinuate this happens often in the Muslim community but this is in stark contrast to the article and serves to breed fear.

Yes you are correct that is in contrast to the article. Do you have any idea as to why most Muslims worldwide are like the article and a few are like you have read about? Can it be Muslims are human and not perfect beings and some mistake national cultural practices for religion?
 
The article relating to womans rights in Islam points to a side of Islam we are not shown very often in the Western world i agree. In relation to womens rights regarding rape however i have read numerous reports of young girls being tried for adultery under Sharia law after being raped and amnesty international have recently been involved with a case of this nature in Africa. These reports cause much concern to those trying to expand there knowledge and understanding of Islam. Please understand I am not wishing to grossly generalise or insinuate this happens often in the Muslim community but this is in stark contrast to the article and serves to breed fear.

I am not the type person who lectures no-Muslims about Islam. If you have a questions about sharia please start a new thread.However, I am glad that you want to hear the both sides. That is what smart people do.



Are raped women punished in Islam?


Name Nina -
Topic Ethics & Values
Title Are raped women punished in Islam?
Question Dear respected scholars,

My question is simply about raped women...

I know that Islam doesn't punish a rapped woman because simply it's out of her hands. But some people say that THEY SHOULD be punished!!


Jazakuallah khayran
Date 2002/6/23

Name of Consultant Kamal Badr
Content of Reply

Dear sister, thanks for your question.

As the question mostly revolves around raped women, I would confine my answer to that point, without delving into the issue of punishing the rapist, on which there is no controversy that if it is proven, beyond reasonable doubt, that he is guilty of the crime, he will serve the punishment.

But I would like to make it clear that this crime can be proved either by confession or testimony or even through any modern means, thanks for the great revolution that has taken place in the field of science. This has made it easier for criminal experts to lay their hands on clear evidence that paves way for justice to run its course.

So what I am trying to say is that, contrary to what some Westerners claim, the issue is not just "bring four witnesses or set the accused free". Shari`ah is not a legal system that keeps itself away from realities of life. Rather, it is practical in the sense that its mechanism of justice operates in a quite flexible way that makes all its precepts and rulings applicable at all time. Anyway, as I have said, I will not go into details on that now.

Moving to your question. Yes, sister, raped women are not punished in Islam. What punishment? This is like saying that a person robbed of his property should be punished.

It is a fact that, to be absolved from guilt, the raped woman must have shown some sort of good conduct, in the sense that what befell her must be something beyond her control. This is where Islam excels.


In dealing with a certain issue or addressing a certain problem, it brings forth a comprehensive panacea that uproots the problem and eliminates its causes. Rather than stipulating a temporary measure that will act as sedatives, Islam gets down to the root of the problem itself with the aim of uprooting entirely.


It sets noble codes of conduct that should prevail in the society; it addresses women to maintain their modesty, as not to open the door for evils:


*{… be not too complacent of speech, lest one in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire: but speak ye a speech (that is) just.}* (Al-Ahzab 33: 32)


The above verse, despite addressing the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) actually, in an implicit way, calls upon Muslim women in general to preserve their dignity and modesty, just to save themselves from any harassment.

This injunction sounds more explicit in the following verse:

*{O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.}* (Al-Ahzab 33: 59)


This is Islam. As we have reiterated before, it does not hunt for crimes just to punish; rather, it works towards the means of blocking the avenues of crimes. Even when it punishes, it does not punish blindly; rather, it strikes the guilty hand.

So, for a rape victim to be absolved from guilt, she must not be the one that opens her house for robbery and her dignity for deflowering. If, after trying her best to resist the attack, she gets overcome by the assailants, she is totally absolved from punishment.

Muslim scholars are unanimous on this. They maintain that any woman, who, despite doing her utmost to resist these thugs and their ilk, is raped, is not guilty of any sin. This is since the situation is beyond her control, and anyone who is forced to do something is not guilty of sin. This is even in the case of disbelief, which is worse than zina (sex out of marriage), as Allah says what means:


*{… except him who is forced thereto and whose heart is at rest with faith}* (An-Nahl 16: 106)


The Prophet said: "Allah has forgiven for my Ummah for their mistakes, what they forget and what they are forced to do."

In showing reaction to this heinous crime, Islam takes into consideration the terrible effects it has on its victims. Most rape victims have their self-esteem diminished after an assault or abuse, driving them to be hunted by frequent shame, humiliation and loss of control.

This situation may even exacerbate to the point of making rape victims find it difficult to be intimate with others. That is why Islam lays down certain strategies, which all in all, aim at soothing the rape victim, opening for her new channels of hope and survival.

That is why Islam makes it clear that any Muslim woman who falls prey to a rapist will be rewarded for bearing this calamity with patience, if she seeks Allah's reward for the harm that has befallen her.


The Prophet says:

"No stress or exhaustion befalls the Muslim, nor worry or distress, even a thorn which pricks him, but Allah will forgive his sins because of that." (Al-Bukhari)

The society also has a role to play in rehabilitating the rape victim. Instead of deserting her or considering her a person non grata in the society, for the crime she has no hand in, Islam calls upon the society to rush to assist her in modifying and improving her life. We should show her the way out the pain of abuse.

Thus, many Muslim scholars, led by Sheikh Al-Qaradawi, have maintained that young Muslim men should hasten to marry women who fall as rape victims, so as to reduce their suffering and console them, to compensate them for the loss of the most precious thing that they possess. This reflects mutual love, rapport and altruism that prevail in the Muslim society.

This is, in brief, how Islam caters for raped women. Please keep in touch.

As for the site you referred to, I've checked it and I see that you don't have to bother yourself with such things. What every Muslim should busy himself or herself with, is how to get acquainted with the teachings of Islam, and how to acquire that from a proper source.

May Allah help us!


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And I’m still waiting for someone to tell me why Mohammed wants you to dress like him or not dress like me. Nobody seems to know why and although there seems to be agreement amongst you that you should dress and do everything else differently, (notwithstanding that you don’t know why) there seems to no understanding of how exactly. The natural obvious way to be different is to be different from those horribly decadent westerners but as most of the members of this forum live in the west, that seems to be in the too hard to do box.

(9:68) Allah promiseth the hypocrites, both men and women, and the disbelievers fire of hell for their abode. It will suffice them. Allah curseth them, and theirs is lasting torment.
I have been telling you why since the first time you have asked, but you kept ignoring what I said. Typical of your kind.

Why doesn't Muhammad,saws, want us to dress like you? Because He,saws, doesn't want us to be like you. We are Muslims, following the Qur'an and not west.We are leaders not to be led. That is why. You want us to tell you what pleases your brain? We will not. This is what Islam says period.

You wanted my personal opinion in the past, I'll give it to you. Not all of us are born in a Muslim family. Not all of us are Arabs. Not all of us even know all the commands of Islam. Every Muslim desires to live under Islamic law. I do. I wish I could wear a sheet over myself and not these peaces of cloathing. I wish I could fly but I can't. Muhammad,saws, said when he commands us something to follow it as much as we can.
Got this from another forum..
First Khutbah
I advise you, as well as myself, to fear Allaah in times of prosperity and misfortune, in secret and in public: "O mankind! Worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous." (Al Baqarah: 21).

O people! When a person meditates upon the histories of past nations and populations, he will be instantly amazed at the revolutions and transformations they went through. For instance, there was a pioneering nation (i.e., the Muslim nation) which led the world for many centuries but then, it faltered and lost its leading role; it fell in the midst of blind imitation and followed the paths of other nations in terms of manners and beliefs. Once it was at the acme of development and reached the highest level of power and glory, but it later fell to the lowest point and was afflicted with misery. It died after it had been living, deteriorated after it was once flourishing and withered after it was blossoming. It was the nation that discovered the sources of knowledge and developed the Islaamic civilization and sciences, which the West later obtained significantly, without having to exert the least of efforts. Thus it seems as if the gates towards progress had been shut off for the Muslims as they turned into artificial consumers of the Western civilization. They even began to adopt certain features of it, which were originally theirs but had been stolen away from them.

O Muslims! When a Muslim blindly imitates the West, he turns into a loyal supporter of their beliefs and customs; he is like one who tries to reform something but spoils it while he is unaware. He is just like a defeated follower, like a baby who bites and severs his mother's breast while it is in his mouth. Such a person does not know that blind copying of the West involves hidden hazards and that our rights, honor and dignity are violated by such imitation and imbecilic pride.

O Muslims! The Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam said: "You will imitate the nations before you very closely to the extent that if they went into a lizard's hole, you would enter it as well” his companions, may Allaah be pleased with them, inquired: “(Do you mean) the Jews and Christians, O Messenger of Allaah?” He sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam replied: "Who else?” (Bukhaari & Muslim). The Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam also said: "The Day of Judgment will not come until my Nation closely imitates the nations before them.” It was asked: “Like the Persians and Romans, Messenger of Allaah?” He sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam replied: "Who are the nations (I could mean) except those?” (Bukhaari).

The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam foretold that some of his nation will imitate the People of the Book, namely the Jews and Christians, as well as other non-Arabs, namely the Persians and Romans. Allaah says that which means: "[You disbelievers are] like those before you; they were stronger than you in power and more abundant in wealth and children. They enjoyed their portion [of worldly enjoyment], and you have enjoyed your portion as those before you enjoyed their portion, and you have engaged [in vanities] like that in which they engaged…" (At-Tawbah: 69). Ibn ‘Abbaas, may Allaah be pleased with him, commented on this verse by saying: “These are the Children of Israel that we will imitate.” Ibn Mas’ood, may Allaah be pleased with him, also said in this regard: “You are closely similar to the Children of Israel as far as outside appearance and manners are concerned, but I do not know whether you will worship the calf (as they did) or not.”

O servants of Allaah! The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam used to prohibit imitating other nations. It is worth mentioning that these traditions do not indicate that the entire Muslim nation will commit this sin as he sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam also foretold that a group of his nation will continue to stick to the Straight Path until the Day of Judgment.

The Muslims constitute the most guided and well-mannered nation in this life; and on the Day of Judgment Allaah will make them witnesses over all other nations as He says that which means: "And thus We have made you a median [i.e., just] community that you will be witnesses over the people and the Messenger will be a witness over you…" (Al-Baqarah: 143). Indeed, this is a very prestigious position. How is it, then, that Muslims imitate others in their customs, traditions and feasts? The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam even forbade the Muslims from acquiring religious information from the People of the Book; once, ‘Umar ibn Al-Khattaab, may Allaah be pleased with him, was reading some parts of one of the scriptures of the People of the Book to the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, so he got angry and said: "I have conveyed to you a clear religion. Do not ask them (the People of the Book) about anything, for they may tell you the truth while you belie them or they may lie and you might believe them. I swear by Him in Whose Hands is my soul, if Moosaa was alive, he would not have any choice but to follow me.” (Ahmad & Ibn Abi Shaybah).

Allaah made human beings and all other creatures accustomed to interacting with their similar counterparts. When the degree of similarity increases, such interaction and hence imitation in morals and characteristics becomes more complete, until it is hardly possible to distinguish between them. Accordingly, human beings are affected by each other and acquire each other's traits through cohabitation and imitation. It is also known that if a human being stays in the company of a certain type of animal, he would pick up some of its features; that is why, for example, those who tend camels are known for their pride and arrogance, while shepherds are known to be humble and calm, whereas those who raise both camels and mules acquire some of the bad attributes of both. Similarly, a domestic animal acquires some human characteristics, such as the ability to live with others.

Furthermore, when a person puts on the clothes usually worn by scholars, he may feel himself as somehow closer to them, because similarity and imitation in outward appearance leads to resemblance in inward characteristics such as personal characteristics and morals, as is witnessed in reality and is confirmed by Islaamic jurisprudence and common sense. In the old times, it was said: ‘Birds of a feather flock together’; this is a realistic proverb which conforms to the manner in which Allaah has formed His creation. The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam spoke the truth when he said: "Whoever imitates a people is one of them." (Ahmad & Abu Dawood)

Shaykh Al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah, may Allaah have mercy on him, said: “We have seen that the degree of polytheism is less in those Jews and Christians who reside with Muslims, and that the degree of faith in the Muslims who have dealt extensively with the Jews and Christians is lesser than that of the pious Muslims.”

O servants of Allaah! Imitating polytheists and atheists in their clothing, customs, rules, politics and economics has become widespread among many Muslims to a very large extent, so much so that the one who blindly imitates and tries to Westernize might even be respected by the foolish masses and the youth, including the rich, intellectuals and even the poor, who are attracted to such a person. Woe to imitation and subordination! What weighty and oppressive constraints they have! What a dark path theirs is! What a great loss for whoever follows them!

Yes, woe to imitating and following the West! It has trapped some Muslim generations in the dark, narrow prisons of subordination and dependence, and prevented them from thinking, meditating and heading for glory. It has blocked the means to the real happiness of their souls.

Woe to imitation and dependence! They are obstacles for the intellects and prevent everything that may revive them.

The Muslim Nation should lead, not be led; others should depend on us and not the reverse. Our Nation should not be deceived by the artificial adornments possessed by some devastated people, as Allaah says that which means: "And do not extend your eyes toward that by which We have given enjoyment to [some] categories of them, [its being but] the splendor of worldly life by which We test them. And the provision of your Lord is better and more lasting." (Taa-Haa: 131).

The Western civilization is like a mirage, which, when seen from a distance is like a large sea, but it is as Allaah says which means: "But the disbelievers – their deeds are like a mirage in a lowland which a thirsty one thinks is water until, when he comes to it, he finds it is nothing but finds Allaah before him, and He will pay him in full his due; and Allaah is swift in account." (An-Noor: 39).

The weak and ignorant Muslims, who try to remodel the principles of our nation through imitation, should know that even though such temporal morals may ruin some of the deeply rooted ones, they will never remain or become innate. If some people believe that our nation must change its ways for development, then let it be known that our resorting to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam is the best means for change. Allaah says that which means: "…Indeed, Allaah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves. And when Allaah intends for a people ill, there is no repelling it. And there is not for them besides Him any patron." (Ar-Ra`d: 11).

If we embrace the means to be powerful, stick to deep-rooted principles such as strong will, piety, courage and Islaamic zeal and adhere to our distinctive code of life which indicates that we are religious and ethical people, what harm would we get from it? Are these not the true Islaamic morals? Are there any other solid foundations for progress besides them? Allaah says that which means: "[And say, ‘Ours is] the religion of Allaah. And who is better than Allaah in [ordaining] religion? And we are worshippers of Him’” (Al-Baqarah: 138) and also: "[Say], ‘Then is it other than Allaah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book [i.e., the Qur’aan] explained in detail?’…" (Al-An’aam: 114)

However, if we are to adopt foreign customs and traditions alien to our religion, from the West, we should remember that Islaam is Islaam and polytheism is polytheism, and that they live in one hemisphere and we live in another. We were the masters before we assumed these Western traditions that ruined the free Muslim nation – its men and especially its women, who have rushed after the unknown in a breathless attempt to imitate the West. They are amazed by the eye-catching products of its industries and have followed its disgraceful women to the extent that their clothes became almost the same as those of Western models. When you see any Muslim woman wearing a dress barely covering her private parts, you should know that this is an example of their kind of clothing. The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam said about such women: "I have seen none lacking in common sense and failing in religion and (at the same time) robbing the wisdom of wise men, besides you (women).” (Bukhaari & Muslim).

This is why when Allaah says that which means: "…and amended for him [i.e., Zakariyya] his wife…” (Al-Anbiyaa’: 90) it denotes that He thereby bestowed much grace upon Zakariyya, peace be upon him: He also says which means, "…So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allaah would have them guard…" (An-Nisaa’: 34)

O Muslims! The restrictions imposed by our religion on the human being are not meant to torture or deprive him from the pleasures of this life. Rather, their aim is to elevate him from mere animalism to complete humanity. Thus, a Muslim will become capable of overcoming subservience and dependence, and his faith and piety will overpower animalistic lusts.

Whenever a society ignores such restrictions or belittles them, it jeopardizes and opens itself to serious problems and positions itself on the brink of destruction, as Allaah says that which means: "…And whoever transgresses the limits of Allaah – it is those who are the wrongdoers [i.e., the unjust]” (Al-Baqarah: 229) and also: "…And who is more astray than one who follows his desire without guidance from Allaah? Indeed, Allaah does not guide the wrongdoing people." (Al-Qasas: 50).

Second Khutbah
Our Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam prohibited whatever acts lead to the imitation of the polytheists to such an extent that one of the Jews said about him: "This man does not wish to set aside any of our affairs until he acts in nonconformity with it." (Muslim).

It is also reported that the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam forbade Muslims from offering prayers after dawn until the sun rises and following the afternoon prayer until sunset. He explained that the sun rises and sets between the horns of the devil and at this time, the polytheists prostrate before it. It is well-known that a believer never prostrates himself to anything except Allaah; most people may not even be aware that the sun rises and sets between the horns of the devil and that the polytheists prostrate before it, yet, the Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam commanded Muslims not to pray at this time so as not to imitate the polytheists in any way.

Imitating the People of the Book and the non-Arab polytheists will surely lead to some degree of affection towards them. For this reason also, imitation is prohibited in order to block the way before such love transpires and to prevent allegiance to them; this is aside from the legal evidences that prohibit such imitation.

It is plainly evident that some people who copy the polytheists in their clothes, manners, traditions or speak their language, harbor love and admiration for them. In this way, the polytheists succeed in disseminating ideas such as globalization and a universal religion which affect some sick-hearted Muslims; all of these aim at weakening the Muslim character and identity. Whenever a person objects to such ideas, he is labeled as an introvert, an isolationist and even a narrow-minded person alienated from this world and who should have died in his cradle.

Such people seem to ask why the bells of churches do not chime along with the minarets reverberating "Allaah is the Greatest." They ask why there are not many religions being practiced in the Arabian Peninsula, but they forget or seem to forget that the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam said: "There must not be two religions in the Arabian Peninsula.” (Maalik & Ahmad).

Allaah says that which means: “And never will the Jews and the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say: ‘Indeed, the guidance of Allaah is the [only] guidance.’ If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allaah no protector or helper.” (Al-Baqarah: 120). He also says that which means: "They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike…” (An-Nisaa’: 89).


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I read through that explanation of why although Mohammed said Muslims should dress like him it didn’t really mean that and was hanging in there struggling to understand how he rationalised that on the presumption that whoever he was he had thought it through then I got to the end where he said “Among the sunna actions of dress are: (men) Keeping the pants above the ankles.

He starts off with what I presume are hadeeth stating that Mohammed appeared to suggest that Muslims should look like them (Mohammed and his clan) and if they didn’t they are not Muslims. He then goes into 6 pages of reasons why it’s probably OK to wear western clothes because, for example, some Muslims are westerners and so you’d be looking like western Muslims but then ends up by adding but the trousers must finish above your ankles. I’d bet a sizeable sum of money that 99% of the Muslim men on this forum living in the west do not wear their trousers to a length finishing above their ankles – why is that?

Wow, a non-Muslim commentary on the hadeeths and fatwas. Are you American?Muhammad,saws,said this,that.
He then goes into 6 pages of reasons why it’s probably OK to wear western clothes because, for example, some Muslims are westerners and so you’d be looking like western Muslims but then ends up by adding but the trousers must finish above your ankles.
He probably was explaining what we can wear what we can not wear. As simple as that. These are the things men cannot wear.And do not judge what you do not understand.4) There are a few conditions that men must meet when wearing clothes.
a: It must cover what is between the navel and the knees and should be loose enough.
b: It must not reach below the ankles.
c: It must not be clothing worn with the intention of imitating disbelievers.
d: It must not imitate the dress of women (including jewelry such as necklaces, bracelets and earrings).
e: It must not contain gold or silk.
There, a Muslim summary.Understand?

I’d bet a sizeable sum of money that 99% of the Muslim men on this forum living in the west do not wear their trousers to a length finishing above their ankles – why is that?

You need to visit a mosq or a Muslim community.I'd bet that you haven't ever seen a practicing Muslim.

I read through that explanation of why although Mohammed said Muslims should dress like him it didn’t really mean that and was hanging in there struggling to understand how he rationalised that on the presumption that whoever he was he had thought it through then I got to the end where he said “Among the sunna actions of dress are: (men) Keeping the pants above the ankles.
The description I gave you of how man should dress is the sunna actions of Muhammad,saws. The scholar no where said that man can wear what I said they cannot. What I said that men cannot wear are th eonly prohibited ways in imitating kufar. Clear?
 
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Oh, and about Muslims abiding in non-Muslim lands. There is a ruling on that. It is permissible for a Muslim to live in a non-Muslim country under specific circumstances.Which? too long for me to answer. If you're interested, seek it yourself.It would also depend on an individual's situation. For example, I am born in a non- practicing, European,Muslim family and I don't have a choice but to live with my family.
 
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Are you saying that God doesn’t want Muslim women to have a career, to believe they are equal to Muslim men and Muslim men cannot have a Muslim woman as their leader? Well indeed you are that is what you’ve said but surely God made us all equal?
Sorry, I cannot reply your post instantly. There was a trouble with electricity, and luckily I follow a statement that say candle is not totally haram.

Okay, back to topic.

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In Islam women are allowed to work and have career but not allowed to forget their role as a wife and mother.
This statement is pointing to some women who think, marriage, pregnancy or having children can give a bad effect in career.
Also pointing to career women who forget to serve and take care their husbands and child because they are too busy in their career.

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In Islam men and women are equal but not in certain matter. In example, man can be imam for woman is shalaath, but woman cannot be imam for man in shalaath.
This statement is pointing to some extreme feminists who want absolute equality in Islam. Their famous statement was "If man is allowed to marry four women, let me marry four men".
Extreme feminists like these are really exist in Indonesia.

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About accept woman as people leader (President / Prime Minister).
Sorry, wrong translation, the right word is not allowed to VOTE a woman for leader. But in case of emergency (only in case of emergency) Muslims can accept a woman as leader. Megawati became Indonesian president caused by emergency situation.
 
:sl: Imitation is when you deliberately set out to resemble someone, be like them or be accepted by them and therefore attempt to change, mask or make confusing your own true identity. Celebrating Christmas to fit in so that Christians think you are like them, making your life void of islamic signs/expressions, and dressing like them (non muslims) to be accepted socially by appearing less islamic/foreign is an imitation. Wearing coats/jackets, jeans etc, in cold climates to protect yourself is a necessity, not an imitation.
 
On the presumption that you believe that Sheikh Xyz is stating the will of God. . .

Why does God decree that Muslims look and act differently from non-Muslims?

Is it because everything the non-Muslims do is bad?
Nope.

Is it because non-Muslims are the enemy and there is a need to be able to identify friend from foe?
Some other reason?
Nope.

It's about physical identity. In Islam there is the physical and mental conditions that are to be followed. Mental conditions are that of prayer, dhikr, your language etc. The physical is your mannerisms, your dress code, your physical actions.

Now, regarding the question on imitating kufar. First off, the point is: you are a muslim so you should act like a muslim. We have clear instructions on the dos and don'ts of Islam (for the most part): don't eat pork, don't drink yadda yadda. Do pray salah, do act in accordance of the Sunnah yadda yadda.

So with that in mind, there is simply no need to imitate the kufar - because our ''system'' is the one we should be following. The comment about not imitating the kufar acts as reinforcement to that point.

Thus, in very simple terms: we have a system, follow it, and don't follow anyone else's.
 
Greetings,

Thinker, your re-interpretations of Islamic texts, refusal to accept clear answers and persistent undue questioning is clearly not doing you any favours nor serving any constructive purpose. If you wish to ask sincere questions about Islam on multiple issues, you can use the Clarifications about Islam section. But derailing someone else's thread with needless nitpicking straying all over the place is unacceptable and not the first time you have done so.

I think the important points in this thread were mentioned quite early on and anything further can be added by contacting me through PM.

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