Is it just me

[Thinker]

Hi

I haven't posted here for a long time for many reasons not least of which was because for a long time I thought I'd been banned. It all started after I was infracted for some misdemeanour. When I log in, I don’t get logged in, that’s why I presumed I was banned. On several occasions since and even today I log in and re-enter the ‘log in’ details many times and it doesn’t log me in but if I then click on something else I see I am logged in and can go to my user CP but then when I go to the forum I am logged out again and whenever I go anywhere to try and post a message I get logged out again. In the end I give up. Have the forum police put some restrictions on my account to make it so difficult I just give up; if I am that much trouble why not just ban me? And before I get infracted for posting this question in the wrong section, it is the only section I could get into to post a question. I’ve tried to get to the sections which are accessed solely by moderators and I just get logged out. I’ve tried to email moderators and I get logged out. What’s going on?

Thinker

PS I came on here today because I thought I might find some interesting discussion / observation on last night’s Channel 4 documentary on cousin marriage.

 

[أحمد]

It sounds more like a browser cookie problem; IE users tend to experience this problem more than others. Cookie cleaners may not always solve the problem, but its worth trying. The alternative solutions include deleting the AppData folder of the browser and reinstalling it altogether.

:wa:

 

[S_87]

Hi

I haven't posted here for a long time for many reasons not least of which was because for a long time I thought I'd been banned. It all started after I was infracted for some misdemeanour. When I log in, I don’t get logged in, that’s why I presumed I was banned. On several occasions since and even today I log in and re-enter the ‘log in’ details many times and it doesn’t log me in but if I then click on something else I see I am logged in and can go to my user CP but then when I go to the forum I am logged out again and whenever I go anywhere to try and post a message I get logged out again. In the end I give up. Have the forum police put some restrictions on my account to make it so difficult I just give up; if I am that much trouble why not just ban me? And before I get infracted for posting this question in the wrong section, it is the only section I could get into to post a question. I’ve tried to get to the sections which are accessed solely by moderators and I just get logged out. I’ve tried to email moderators and I get logged out. What’s going on?

Thinker

PS I came on here today because I thought I might find some interesting discussion / observation on last night’s Channel 4 documentary on cousin marriage.

the same thing happens with all 3 computers. i click remember me then after ive 'logged on' i click a subject on the right which logs me on for real. majorly frustraiting cuz sometimes i have to log in several times before im logged in

 

[جوري]

:lol: thinker.. I am starting to think you have a self aggrandizing problem? Yes you are singled out because you ask the tough questions that Muslims would rather hide!
now what would you like to know of cousin's marriages?
let me save you a long trip by quoting you this:

Higazi - Egypt​

Title

Islamic View on Marrying Cousins​

Question

What is Islam's position on marriages between cousins? I ask you this question because of the growing controversy that such marriages are not healthy and are very likely to cause serious birth defects in the offspring. Please answer this question in the light of the Holy Qur'an and the Sunnah. I would also like if you could give your own opinion on this subject matter keeping in mind the health risks posed by such marriages. Thank You.​

Date

02/Jan/2003​

Name of Counsellor

Group of Muftis​

Topic

Marriage​

Answer​

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Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner, we would like to thank you for the great confidence you place in us, and we implore Allah Almighty to help us serve His cause and render our work for His Sake.

Answering the question in point, Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi, former President of the Islamic Society of North America, states:

"Marriages between first cousins are allowed in Islam. In surat an-Nisa' (4:22-24), Allah mentioned the women who are forbidden for marriage and then He said, "… Lawful to you are all beyond those mentioned, so that you may seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock…" In surat al-Ahzab (33:50), Allah mentioned to the Prophet that he may marry the daughters of his uncles and aunts from the father's side or the mother's side. It is the consensus of the jurists that this permission was not only for the Prophet, but it is also a permission for other believers. Muslims have practiced marriages between first cousins in all countries since the time of the Prophet.

Such marriages are allowed in many other religions and cultures as well. In United States, most of the states allow marriages between the first cousins. There is nothing wrong in this marriage.

However, it is a good practice to have a blood test before marriage. If one suspects some hereditary disease or any other problem then he/she should seek the advice of a medical expert in this field. The chances of health risk in this marriage are very rare. Most of the marriages have been good and children quite healthy."

Excerpted, with slight modifications from: http://pakistanlink.com/religion.html

Elaborating on this issue, we'd like to cite the fatwa issued by Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer and author. He states:

"There is no objection whatsoever in the Islamic religion for a man to marry any of his relatives except those forbidden for marriage whom Allah mentioned in surat an-Nisaa' (4: 23) Thus, when Allah mentioned for us the relatives to whom marriage is forbidden, we then come to know that there is no objection for the remainder of the family relations.

Among the most prominent evidence of this fact is that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) married his daughter Fatimah to `Ali (may Allah be pleased with them) and he is the son of her father's uncle, as well as the marriage of the Prophet himself to Zaynab bint Jahsh (may Allah be pleased with her) and she is his aunt's daughter (i.e. his cousin); and there are many other such examples.

However, a different question may be asked, namely: "Is it better or preferable for a Muslim to marry someone he is not related to rather than a relative?"

The answer to this question varies from case to case, and perhaps it may be preferable to marry people who are non-relations, for example if one aspires to form new social ties or bonds, and regards the existence of a marriage relationship with a different family as constructive in widening the circle of social bonds." (Source: www.islam-qa.com)

Elaborating on the issue whether it is preferable not to marry close cousins, we’d like to cite for you the following fatwa:

“Islam permits marriage between first cousins. If we read the Qur'anic verses which enumerate women to whom a Muslim cannot be married, you will find that this list does not include cousins.

The Islamic view is that while marriage between cousins is permissible, it is preferable to choose a marriage partner from outside one's family. We have to distinguish between what is permitted and what is advocated. Some clans restrict marriages to amongst their kin only – a practice far from what is advocated. It is worth stressing here that when marriage of cousins is repeated over several generations, they are bound to have more effects on children.

By permitting such marriages Islam does not encourage them. It advocates the cementing of social relations through marriages between totally unrelated families.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) once told one of his Companions to choose a wife from a tribe different to his, and then to choose for his son a wife from a third tribe, and to seek for his second son a girl from yet another tribe.

Preferring this course of action, Islam nevertheless permits marriage between cousins because it meets a social need.”

Excerpted, with modifications, from: www.islamicity.com

In conclusion, it is clear that Islam, undoubtedly, permits marrying cousins. As for the issue of preferring to choose a marriage partner from outside one's family, this varies from one case to another. Yet, Islam is generally keen to widen the circle of social bonds. As for the fear of hereditary diseases, it is a good practice to have a blood test before marriage. If one suspects some hereditary disease or any other problem then he/she should seek the advice of a medical expert in this field.

May Allah guide you to the straight path and direct you to that which pleases Him, Ameen.

Allah Almighty knows best.​

Read more: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503544772#ixzz0xYsPBe9W

better question is, what do you think of siblings marrying siblings?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6424337.stm

Incest: an age-old taboo

Forward thinking? Napoleon dropped incest from France's penal code

In 2007, a German brother and sister took their fight for the right to a sexual relationship to the country's highest court, the BBC News website's Clare Murphy looks at the history of the incest taboo and how it is changing.

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all the best

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

Salam


I got there before you....

http://www.islamicboard.com/health-science/14900-there-health-risks-marrying-your-1st-cousin-2.html

I bump this thread (there were so many but picked one). I think you can continue discussing there or here. Not pointing creating another thread.

Good day!

 

[Muezzin]

Hi

I haven't posted here for a long time for many reasons not least of which was because for a long time I thought I'd been banned. It all started after I was infracted for some misdemeanour. When I log in, I don’t get logged in, that’s why I presumed I was banned. On several occasions since and even today I log in and re-enter the ‘log in’ details many times and it doesn’t log me in but if I then click on something else I see I am logged in and can go to my user CP but then when I go to the forum I am logged out again and whenever I go anywhere to try and post a message I get logged out again. In the end I give up. Have the forum police put some restrictions on my account to make it so difficult I just give up; if I am that much trouble why not just ban me? And before I get infracted for posting this question in the wrong section, it is the only section I could get into to post a question. I’ve tried to get to the sections which are accessed solely by moderators and I just get logged out. I’ve tried to email moderators and I get logged out. What’s going on?

Thinker

PS I came on here today because I thought I might find some interesting discussion / observation on last night’s Channel 4 documentary on cousin marriage.

While I find the implication the moderators are evil consipirators to be perversely hilarious, the technical problems you're experiencing are most likely due to your web browser. I have similar problems to those you describe when attempting to sign in using Firefox, but the site functions properly on Internet Explorer. Your mileage may vary.

 

[Yanal]

I use to have issues while using Internet Explorer,alhumdulilah the issue is now resolved.

 

[Asiyah3]

The same thing happens to me in school.