Is it possible for me to become a Muslim and remain uncircumcised?

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I am thinking of reverting to Islam but this is one of the things that I am unsure about. I would be a bit scared of getting circumcised and I know there is anesthetic but I would still be scared of the pain.

Also, doesn't Allah forbid altering the body? That is what I heard a few weeks ago.
 
I am not sure if it is compulsory or not, I hope someone can shed light on that aspect.

I want to say that it is normal to be scared but you should understand that it is only a minor surgery which heals very quickly. Second, God will help you in the process and make it easy for you inshallah since your intention will be to ultimately please Allah by following his commands.

That being said, you should also realize that there are many medical benefits of being circumcised (prevention of STD etc). just do a quick youtube search on circumsision in Islam and you will find many answers and perspectives, pay attention to zakir naiks responses.

yes you are right, Allah does forbid one to alter the body, ie. getting tatoees and enlarging ones earlobe but in terms of circumcision I believe it pre-dates the Quran and it is something which we do in an attempt to follow our beloved prophet.

 
I would not let the fear of circumcision prevent you from becoming a Muslim. This is a private matter that only you, your wife and Allah (swt) will know. It is preferable to follow the sunnah as much as is possible without becoming overburdened.

In Bukhari Narrated Abu Huraira : I heard the Prophet saying. "Five practices are characteristics of the Fitra: circumcision, shaving the pubic hair, cutting the moustaches short, clipping the nails, and depilating the hair of the armpits."
 
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

shouldn't this have been a brothers only thread.......

Appears to be based upon who is submitting
 
sabr* said:
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

shouldn't this have been a brothers only thread.......

Appears to be based upon who is submitting
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brother sabr,
you've been on the forum a whole year longer than me,
are you not aware that curious incident doesn't yet have ACCESS to the brothers' thread?

and this is a medical and religious issue, not a sexual one,


brother curious, it is not as painful as one might think, the actual process is not painful at all,
it is done under anesthesia, then for the next week or two, you are advised to lay low and let it heal,
just like any cut on the hand.

i had my son's done in the first three months,
it was the plastibell ring method which seemed the simplest
but the doctor you go to may prefer a different method depending on their observations
please also be aware that many atheists also have this done simply for the purposes of hygiene,
as that area is most susceptible to bacterial growth after intimacy,
or with some people who don't wash anyways =)
it makes life a lot easier when showering etc and requires only a week's investment
i guess you may also be aware of the sensory benefits it has for the partner since the skin is not stationary,
but let's not go too deep into that now ;)
DO IT!
 
Hi Brother

Mashallah you are way to go, you have a very small concern, dontworry about it

Here in ME we have lots of Indians and you say huge percentage of them (except Muslims) are NOT circumsized and they are doing it after they come here, many due to health issue

anyway you will just need maximum a week to heal, Ive seen my young brothers when I was young and it didnt take so long


One more thing, circumsition is also being taught in the Bible, Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was circumcised few days after birth. Luke 2:21
 
you should get circumcised. because as Muslims, at least the ones in living in Middle East, they feel disgust towards someone whose phallus is not circumcized. Such people are considered unclean and impure. For example, one common joke that Pakistanis make of Hindus is by mocking their uncircumcized phalluses. I am not sure what Islam's take on it is, but Islam obligates the circumcision of a Muslim male child born to Muslim parents.
 
Evangelist said:
Why would you need circumcision? That is the old law. That doesn't apply to us today. Does it?
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it does, and always did, unless you believe Abraham (pbuh) through Jesus (pbuh) were all wrong and paul was right.
Judeo-Christian actually sounds funny too, since it makes me think you have to see Jesus as an impostor and God at the same time
another contradiction 4 u 2 deal with, sorry if u have 2 many on your plate already.
 
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Abz2000 said:
it does, and always did, unless you believe Abraham (pbuh) through Jesus (pbuh) were all wrong and paul was right.
Judeo-Christian actually sounds funny too, since it makes me think you have to see Jesus as an impostor and God at the same time
another contradiction 4 u 2 deal with, sorry if u have 2 many on your plate already.
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dude don't be harsh.. the man just asked a question no need to hurt his feelings
 
Thank you everyone for your kind words but I am still a bit scared and you could say that it is one of the many things that are stopping me from becoming a Muslim. I am still unsure. On some websites, it says that reverts do not have to be circumcised but it is highly recommended. Can someone tell me clearly if it is obligatory or only highly recommended?
 
Brother CI ...

I waited a LONG time to revert. For some very personal reasons. They weren't incorrect... but for a lot of things, I was seeing the trees but not seeing the forest ... while I can understand being cautious ... I also learned over the time I was studying.... that the leap is really really important. I'm not trying to push you into anything you aren't ready for.. though i will say.. * after my own experiences... * a lot of your replies look like some of mine... maybe your more ready than you think... be patient w/ yourself..... but don't sell yourself short on knowing what is right...

hope i made sense... I can't really answer your main question here, just replying to the last thing you said.
Serena
 
I think it is safe to assume that circumcision is highly recommendatory and not obligatory. Allah hu alim
 
here's some info from wiki, though it's not always reliable, some good scholars do often keep tabs on pages like this:

The origin of circumcision in Islam is a matter of religious and scholarly debate. It is mentioned in some hadith, but not in the Qur'an. Some fiqh scholars state that circumcision is recommended (sunnah), others that it is obligatory.[SUP][36][/SUP] Some have quoted the hadith to argue that the requirement of circumcision is based on the covenant with Abraham.[SUP][37][/SUP]
The timing of Muslim circumcision varies. Turkish, Balkan, rural Egyptians and Central and South Asian Muslims typically circumcise boys between the ages of six and eleven.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] Traditionally, Turkish circumcisions are celebrated with sweets and the Sünnet Düğünü, or "Circumcision Feast/Celebration," and performed rarely with no anesthetic. It is considered a very important celebration in man's life as apassage to manhood. Many parents of children born in hospitals now choose to have their sons circumcised in the hospital setting, a few days after birth.[SUP][38][/SUP] In Pakistan, Muslims may be circumcised at all ages from the newborn period to adulthood, though the medical profession has encouraged medical circumcisions in the first week after birth to reduce complications: "Circumcision is performed by barbers, medical technicians, quacks and doctors including paediatric surgeon [and as] yet there is no consensus for the best age and method."[SUP][39][/SUP] In Iran, Dr. Paula Drew states that “circumcision, which formerly celebrated the onset of manhood, has for many years now been more customarily performed at the age of 5 or 6 for children born at home, and at two days old for those born in a medical setting.…By puberty, all Muslim Iranian boys must be circumcised if they are to participate fully in religious activities.”[SUP][40][/SUP] Kamyar et al. describe circumcision as an "obligatory custom" and note that it is not necessary for the circumciser to be a Muslim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_male_circumcision


i believe it's because you've got so used to seeing it as normal that it seems like a giant leap, i would however assure you that the 2.1 billion Muslims
http://www.religiouspopulation.com/ and the remaining jews and some christians and atheists and a few others
see it as a piece of extra skin in the way and not to be treasured =)
surely you're not afraid to cut your nails or shave
man up to it:)

 
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syed1 said:
I think it is safe to assume that circumcision is highly recommendatory and not obligatory. Allah hu alim
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There is no question but that this is the correct view. Don't let those who say otherwise and tell you to 'be a man about it', implying you are some kind of wimp, keep you from becoming a Muslim.

There is no question that keeping a beard is a sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (saaws) and yet few are the Muslim men today who have a beard of any sort. Furthermore, there are many Muslimahs who publically refuse to wear the hijab even though this is another undisputed sunnah that borders on obligatory. These are examples of Muslims who publically refuse to follow a sunnah (for their own private reasons) yet who, except your wife and Allah, will know whether or not you are circumscised?

Do not hesitate to become a Muslim. Other than the point about obediently following a sunnah, the main advantage I see for circumscision is the ease of cleaning yourself of all traces of urine after urinating. This point is obligatory as ritual cleanliness is essential for prayer to be accepted. You can acknowledge circumscision to be an accepted sunnah and have the intention to 'go all the way' one day when your faith is stronger.
 
Asalam Brother

All I can say is Believing and living life for ONE GOD is beyond important than circumsition
it takes one to know one, if you think you are ready to be Muslim and there is no doubt in your mind, inshallah you will take shahada

I have found some interesting fatawa which explain the matter distinctly and
wisely, masha'Allah:

"While circumcision is an incumbent religious duty
in Islam, it is not a condition for being a Muslim. Given that, it doesn't
affect the validity of his prayer, or your marriage." http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...=1&cate0&t=rss

"Because
of this difference of opinion, scholars are generally easy-going and gentle with
recent converts to Islam on the issue of circumcision." http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...3&cate=0&t=rss

May Allah swt guide you to the right path,Amen
 
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May Allah guide your way to the path of the endless happiness O my respected brother Ameeeeeen
 
Evangelist said:
Why would you need circumcision? That is the old law. That doesn't apply to us today. Does it? :hiding:
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Of course it does as Jesus(PBUH) said he didnt come to abrogate the old law

Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them"
 
Predator said:
Of course it does as Jesus(PBUH) said he didnt come to abrogate the old law

Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them"
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Exactly what I was thinking.

Matthew 19:16-17 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”

“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
 

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