ISIS and Kharijits [OPINION]

Masha Allah....you may all have your own opinion...Alhamdulillah...If you dispute Quran, well then you tread dangerously...


And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know." #Quran 2:30


Al-Qurtubi, as well as other scholars, said that this Ayah (2:30) proves the obligation of appointing a Khalifah to pass judgements on matters of dispute between people, to aid the oppressed against the oppressor, to implement the Islamic penal code and to forbid evil. There are many other tasks that can only be fulfilled by appointing the Imam, and what is necessary in performing an obligation, is an obligation itself. We should state here that Imamah occurs by either naming a successor, as a group among Ahl As-Sunnah scholars said occurred - by the Prophet - in the case of Abu Bakr, or hinting to a successor. Or, the current Khalifah names a certain person as Khalifah after him, as Abu Bakr did with `Umar. Or, the Khalifah might leave the matter in the hands of the Muslim consultative council, or a group of righteous men, just as `Umar did. Or, the people of authority could gather around a certain person to whom they give the pledge of allegiance, or they could select one among them to choose the candidate, according to the majority of the scholars.


The Khalifah must be a responsible adult Muslim male, able to perform Ijtihad (independent legal judgments), bodily able, righteous, with knowledge of warfare, politics. He also must be from the tribe of Quraysh, according to the correct view, but it is not necessary that he be from the tribe of Bani Hashim, or that he be immune from error, as the Rafidah (Shiites) falsely claim.


When the Khalifah becomes an immoral person (Fasiq), should he be impeached There is disagreement over this matter, but the correct view is that he is not to be removed, because the Messenger of Allah said, Unless you witness a clear Kufr regarding which you have clear proof from Allah. )


Does the Khalifah have the right to resign from his post There is a difference on this issue. It is a fact that Al-Hasan bin `Ali removed himself from the position of Khalifah and surrendered it to Mu`awiyah. However, this occurred because of a necessity, and Al-Hasan was praised for this action.


It is not permissible to appoint two Imams for the world or more at the same time. This is not allowed because the Messenger of Allah said, (Whoever came to you while you are united and tried to divide you, then execute him, no matter who he is.)
 
Masha Allah....you may all have your own opinion...Alhamdulillah...If you dispute Quran, well then you tread dangerously...


And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know." #Quran 2:30


Al-Qurtubi, as well as other scholars, said that this Ayah (2:30) proves the obligation of appointing a Khalifah to pass judgements on matters of dispute between people, to aid the oppressed against the oppressor, to implement the Islamic penal code and to forbid evil. There are many other tasks that can only be fulfilled by appointing the Imam, and what is necessary in performing an obligation, is an obligation itself. We should state here that Imamah occurs by either naming a successor, as a group among Ahl As-Sunnah scholars said occurred - by the Prophet - in the case of Abu Bakr, or hinting to a successor. Or, the current Khalifah names a certain person as Khalifah after him, as Abu Bakr did with `Umar. Or, the Khalifah might leave the matter in the hands of the Muslim consultative council, or a group of righteous men, just as `Umar did. Or, the people of authority could gather around a certain person to whom they give the pledge of allegiance, or they could select one among them to choose the candidate, according to the majority of the scholars.


The Khalifah must be a responsible adult Muslim male, able to perform Ijtihad (independent legal judgments), bodily able, righteous, with knowledge of warfare, politics. He also must be from the tribe of Quraysh, according to the correct view, but it is not necessary that he be from the tribe of Bani Hashim, or that he be immune from error, as the Rafidah (Shiites) falsely claim.


When the Khalifah becomes an immoral person (Fasiq), should he be impeached There is disagreement over this matter, but the correct view is that he is not to be removed, because the Messenger of Allah said, Unless you witness a clear Kufr regarding which you have clear proof from Allah. )


Does the Khalifah have the right to resign from his post There is a difference on this issue. It is a fact that Al-Hasan bin `Ali removed himself from the position of Khalifah and surrendered it to Mu`awiyah. However, this occurred because of a necessity, and Al-Hasan was praised for this action.


It is not permissible to appoint two Imams for the world or more at the same time. This is not allowed because the Messenger of Allah said, (Whoever came to you while you are united and tried to divide you, then execute him, no matter who he is.)
Brother what you are failing to understand is that muslims who follow quran and sunnah they do not object nor reject the idea of khalifa or jihad

But they are really careful about this subject,
Do you know that the kawarij their prayers and ibadah are really good and quality yet they were called dogs of hellfire !

Killing an inncocent life is not a simple thing !

in middle of all these chaos in sham muslim groups killing other muslim groups while fighting bashar

How can one muslim kill another muslim ?

Now can you tell me whats ur so called caliphates stance on other factions who are fighting against bashar?

How many other faction members have isis killed ?
 
if i may...im a sister...lol

The better question brother is ...Is these scholars on the battlefield? Have they witnessed Isis clear kufr? Have they walked away from it after they have witnessed it? Are you on the battlefield? have you witnessed it? Or have you all been influenced...dont follow blindly...what have any of you, including these scholars given up? Have they sat in prison, spoke out ruthlessly about dar-al kufr?...How have you taken the fight to the kufaar? What difference did you make, did you help your sisters that cry day in and day out for help in war torn countries?...gosh...it seems evident that we can all sit on our mighty thrones and condemn a people, name brand etc, we find an excuse not to Fight Jihad, call it what it is...'love of dunya'...dont hide behind khawarij!!!!

lets take your mufti for instance...

He goes what does a 16year old know, how does he have more knowledge than a 60year old (i found that hilarious)

At-Tirmidhi, An-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah recorded that Abu
Hurayrah said, "The Messenger of Allah sent an expedition force
comprising of many men and asked each about what
they memorized of the Qur'an. The Prophet came to one
of the youngest man among them and asked him, ' What
have you memorized (of the Qur'an) young man?'

He said, "I memorized such and such Surahs and also
Al-Baqarah.'

The Prophet said, "You memorized Surah Al-Baqarah.'

He said, * Yes.'

The Prophet said, "Then you are their commander.'

One of the noted men (or chiefs) commented, ' By Allah!
I did not learn Surah Al-Baqarah, for fear that I would
not be able to implement it.


The Messenger of Allah said, Learn Al-Qur'an and recite it, for the example of whoever
learns the Qur'an, recites it and adheres to it, is the
example of a bag that is full of musk whose scent fills
the air.

Sadly we will have scholars among us that will speak eloquently, that will endear us to their train of thort (meaning that is what we want to hear)...but that knowledge means nothing if Quran is not implemented, the description of someone that knows Quran and dont implement the verses is like a bag of closed musk...so yes he might have studied at the most prestigious school but that means aught, because he does not implement it...

Do you think the Isis Mujahideen dont get rebuked and punished for their wrongs? They do, let me tell you.

Merciful towards the believers, hard towards the disbelievers...

You can view it in which ever light you want...you can refute what the Quran says...you can deny the verses if you want...you can call me whichever name you want to, ''Isis lover, Khawarij, Wahabi...whichever you can think of...just be prepared for it on Qiyaamah...

This Ummah is indeed strange, everyone will come to the defense of the Shia, but the muslim they will call names....**** go figure???!!!!
Something to take not of also...Obama and his cronies calls it the Caliphate, we still persist in refuting its existance and calling them khawarij...funny

We have certainly changed the ayahs around to suit ourselves... merciful towards the disbelievers and harsh towards the believers...AoothubILLAH...

i will end this off with...i fear Allah, not man...i will not sell my soul for man and love of this dunya....

Wa salaam thread...
 
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i will end this off with...i fear Allah, not man...i will not sell my soul for man and love of this dunya....
Wa salaam thread...

I see, Sister...
Sounds more like a fight for the freedom and true...
Feel no right to persuade you...
But worried that your battlefield is only a part of the big game and there are evil powers which are benefitting from your sincere fight.
I'll pray Allah for mercy and ease the way to freedom and dignity for all of us.
Ma sha Allah!
 
Amazing that i'm thinking a bit like the last two people to post are thinking
 
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May be Daesh is driven by hypocrisy, which in turn is driven by fear. Fear of other people instead of fear of Allah.

People under Daesh control may realize that many things contradicts Islam, but being afraid of punishment, they try to conform and thus become hypocrits.
 

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