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hm.. ironic isn't it? Since the mongols actually became muslims and accepted Islaam. :)
 
Oh grow up sinband and quit deluding yourself.

perisa fell and as did roman and byzantine empire. persians accepted islam, and today iranians proud themselves to be Muslims. Baghdad was a world known education city where muslims and non-muslims alike came from 4 corners of the globe to seek knowledge. Khengis Khan and his son killed 20million muslims in his genocide, but his grandson converted to islam and fought and defeated his father and mongals brought the Islam back to the land where they almost destroyed it, all by the will of Allah.

So please go educate yourself before you start rambling again. here's 90 seconds of 5000yrs of history for you.

http://www.thelastoutpost.com/site/1379/default.aspx
 
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Even today milions of egyptians hate islam, there are still many christian egyptian that dont convert even if they might get killed.

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let me put a huge dent in your argument and let the rest of it unravel... Egypt has a population of 75 million only 10% of those are Christians... now ask the Christians of Egypt why they are so brazen as to make clandestine tapes with anti-Islamic sentiment circulating them randomly if they felt the least bit threatened?
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2005/766/eg7.htm they speak of violence but violence almost never erupts unprovoked.. as you can see from the article written by a christian egyptian journalist btw...
further, it seems to me any one that insecure in their faith instead of occupying themselves with their own affairs, they go persecuting their own nuns who converted to Islam.. see what Shenouda III and his posse did to a couple of nuns who converted...

Anyhow none of this is the issue!
You can't speak for Egypt or its Egyptians... if things were so horrid for them it would be easy for America and other Christian parts of the world to grant them political refugee... You can read clearly in the Article that here is a community that has managed to thrive side by side for centuries!

BTW--- I think that there is so much politics involved in trying to create havoc for Egypt's copts and Muslims... they were able to peacefully co-exist for ages... you use your own mind and see who can stand to see places in ruins as the division that is eating up Lebanon alive while their waters are smuggled to Israel. There is political gain from propaganda...
pls rise above the silly tactics of media warfare... otherwise there really is no point to a debate... it becomes shallow and pedantic.

peace!
 
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I know that hes son converted, but thats not important. I was showing that people never embraced islam in the beginning. And yes its a lot of politics crossing my mind.

When I think of Islam I think of the Islamic Republic and Irans suffering. Theology is never a good goverment, Iran competed with Japan in the 70s, Iran made nuclear weapons and was going to send a man to space, this was a big achievment in those days. The islamic revolution destroyed it all.

Today the goverment is changing persian words for arabic, and changing the language, in 20 years persian will be another arabic accent.

And when I think of Islam I think of the "arab gulf", the prophet muhammed called it the persian gulf wh should they change it? And why do Arabs hate persians and love Saddam Hussein? Palestianians worshipp Saddam, And hate Iran and call it the enemy of the arabs. It is cause of Iran that they can eat.
 
?? we don't hate persians...
The only reason I am pseudo tolerant to some of your unusual questions is because some of my best friends are Iranians... I think the problem with your country is the Muslims aren't following the path of the prophet ... in other words Iranians are Shiites, save the small front that is bordered with the Arabian part and they are usually persecuted against... You can't really blame it on islam, rather your govt. I know Many Iranians who will concede that under the shah and his numerous women, the people were very neglected... BTW where is your shah buried now when even Iran wouldn't have him? that is actually a rhetorical question... with it I hope you can understand that if we hated you, we wouldn't welcome your shunned shah and burry him in one of our mosques.

pls leave the Palestinians alone -- to them there is only G-D.. not one Arabic country wants to extend them a hand, lest America or Israel frown upon them...

Lastly Arabic is the language of the Quran... you can learn more than one language it is actually proven to halt Alzheimer.. to learn that is!
peace!
 
Yes, some say that the arab leaners are cruler to the palestinians than the israelis. This thing is very uppsetting.

When Saddam the pan-arabist invaded Iran, all the palestinians and arab leaders cheered. Kuwait to, its arab leaders gave money to saddam to aid him, kuwait also had a lot of palestinian refugees.

But the arabs in Iran loved Iran and fought him in their own home towns, this stopped saddam. And made him lose the war, wich he started to "liberate2 the arabs from their beloved Iran.

When the pan-arabist saddam decided to invade kuwait instead, the arab leaders fled. When they came back they forced all the palestinians to leave, cause paestinians where known for supporting Saddam Hussein.

They where back in the refugee camp in Palestine.

You didnt answer the persian to arabian gulf thing? Cause that is very uppsetting, changing a name like that when its been called the persian gulf even by arabs since 3500 years ago.

The "arabian sea", used to be the persian sea, but the brittish didnt like Iran having so much. So they invaded Iran with Russia, taking, turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Baluchistan,

and Oman, todays UAE et c, Baharin was the last one being lost in the 60s.
 
Speaking of Egyptian Christians not converting...when I had myspace (which I dont now, cuz its stupid anyway), I encountered an Egyptian who became Muslim. So I dont know where u get your facts from? From an anti source or just your mind?
 
If anything this should tell you that no one has benefited from dividing and conquering us more than the west and Israel... I can't stand politics and I won't get into it here...

My identity is a Muslim, it is in my heart and I take my heart with me everywhere on G-D's good earth! Muslims EVERYWHERE are my brothers and sisters... it is so funny I got into an argument like this with a colleague from Kurdistan the other day-- at the end I hope he realized that though I don't come from Kurdistan, the condition of all Muslims matters to me on the same level! I don't care what the so called leaders do, they care more for their throne than the people... read about George the V of England, though he supposedly loved his cousin, the Russian Nicolas the II, he loved his throne more, instead of granting him refugee, he let him and his family get gunned down. That is just the nature of people on a throne... it gets to their head... I don't feel hatred toward people Muslim or otherwise unless they willingly create hostility and hatred, and threaten the well beings of their fellow humans... And that certainly isn't in concert with the teachings of Islam...

peace!
 
Yes the west have their divide and counqer, when im angry i blame islam for the iraqi civil war. ut then again, i think if it could be the brittish. The West have capacity to divide one nations people, influence them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Mossadegh

Iran was a democrasy in the 50s, but CIA and brittish intelligence managed to divide the people so they could put the shah back in power. If they wanted they could have done the same in Iraq so that they would let the people kill eachother instead of attacking them.

Some say that when Tito died, the Western European nations could finally divide Yugoslavia that Was Europes 3d strongest and tichest Nation.

And then we got this, that the brittish created arab nationalism to divide the islamic world.
 
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I thought this thread was about ISLAM? We don't seem to have been talking about Islam since the first five posts or so...:rollseyes
 

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