Israel intensifies Gaza offensive, rejects ceasefire

[nimrod]

Isaac, just so you know "The white Supremacist groups in the Western world are fundamentalist Christians" is incorrect.

Thanks
Nimrod

 

[catmando]

this is just a golden opporunity for the jewish terrorist to destroy the alreday weakned and poor infrastructure of palestine. Come of it, the murders blew up the only gas and electricty unit in ghaza, whih has cut of anny electricty and safe wter. if they are after the hamas militia, why on earth blow something like that u which is being used by all residents within ghaza.

It should be clear now that Israel is punishing the Pals for electing Hamas. If they wanted their soldier back they could have sat down and negotiated.

 

[GARY]

It is also clear that hamas only wants to fight or they would have returned the soldier by now to avoid any more bloodshed.

 

[S_87]

It is also clear that hamas only wants to fight or they would have returned the soldier by now to avoid any more bloodshed.

nah hamas is showing israel they dont bow down to spoilt brats

 

[catmando]

nah hamas is showing israel they dont bow down to spoilt brats

Who's the "spoilt brat"??

 

[muslim_friend]

I agree they are in the press. If the media is so prejudiced, why is John Esposito printed so much more than Daniel Pipes? In fact when was DP's last mainstream media appearance? I have just looked at his website and he seems to be published by two "papers" only - Frontpage (a website not a newspaper) and the New York Sun (a Murdoch tabloid). Esposito got an article in the Guardian yesterday.

So you rate the prejudicism in the media on the number of anti islamic vs islamic articles? Is it about numbers? If there are repeated anti-islamic articles in the guardian or the nyt, it would mean the media is prejudiced.. wouldn't it? You can see it everyday as well.. "Islamist/Islamic terrorism", "Islamic militiants"

The term "Islamic terrorism" was first used by secrteray rice when she came to power. why the change of phrase all of a sudden? if you'de notice, 'Islamic terrorism" is more indicative of Islam being the cause behind the terror attacks, than of "Islamist terrorism". I'm willing to bet that, in a few years time, you'll find "Islamic terrorism" replaced by "islam" instead.

Also, DP is not a scholar of Islam, yet Esposito holds a degree. But why do you think DP is as famous as Esposito? Or even respected? Those who speak against Islam are given more attention today.. there is this woman in the netherlands who's written a book on the issue of muslim woman, this woman isn't a scholar.. yet they are applauding her efforts as 'brave'.. I forgot her name though.

Why am I very wrong? I agree the BJP is not nice and they justify bad things. But they do not blow people up on the London Underground. The few have a disproportionate influence on us - you know, blowing thing up tends to attract attention.

Well the BJP aren't fools to blow people up and get a nation wide condemnation, instead they massacre muslims with swords.. have you heard of the Babri masjid demolition?

But what else are Muslims doing? Where are the good news stories? Where are the Muslims building hospitals or schools?

You'll never find them on BBC or CNN, i can assure you that.

France only bans them in schools and the police have to raid suspected terrorist houses. What is wrong with that? The problem is the lack of sensitivity in return - why are you and other Muslims complaining about the Forest Gate raids? Why aren't you supportive?

Two different topics, but in no way are they justifiable. I'm not supportive of either, because for the first one.. those oppressors are violating the right to pratise religion. As for the second one, they are not breaking down, house doors of terrorists, but of innocent muslims, who came to the UK purely for academic work.

 

[HeiGou]

I agree they are in the press. If the media is so prejudiced, why is John Esposito printed so much more than Daniel Pipes?

So you rate the prejudicism in the media on the number of anti islamic vs islamic articles? Is it about numbers? If there are repeated anti-islamic articles in the guardian or the nyt, it would mean the media is prejudiced.. wouldn't it? You can see it everyday as well.. "Islamist/Islamic terrorism", "Islamic militiants"

Sure it is everyone else who is calling the media prejudiced because it only prints "anti-Islamic" articles. If the Guardian ever printed an anti-Islamic article it would say a lot. But I don't think it has or does. You say you can see it every day - where? Take today for instance. Where are there any anti-Islamic articles in the Western press? Islamist terrorism is obviously not a prejudiced statement. Islamic terrorism might be. Where do they say that? What is wrong with Islamic militants anyway?

The term "Islamic terrorism" was first used by secrteray rice when she came to power. why the change of phrase all of a sudden? if you'de notice, 'Islamic terrorism" is more indicative of Islam being the cause behind the terror attacks, than of "Islamist terrorism". I'm willing to bet that, in a few years time, you'll find "Islamic terrorism" replaced by "islam" instead.

While she might have used it in the past, when Muslims object to things the White House stops using them. I assume that if there was a change in phrase it was because Muslims did not like it. The trend has been the other way - the EU for instance has issued guidelines for European governments and the US repeatedly tries to make it clear this has nothing to do with Islam. But what is wrong with Islamist terrorism? Islam, as the bombers understand it, is what drives them. They are not Buddhists and they are not killing people for secular reasons. They think they are Muslims and they do what they do for what they consider Islamic reasons. They may be wrong, but who can judge that? Not me that's for sure.

Also, DP is not a scholar of Islam, yet Esposito holds a degree. But why do you think DP is as famous as Esposito? Or even respected? Those who speak against Islam are given more attention today.. there is this woman in the netherlands who's written a book on the issue of muslim woman, this woman isn't a scholar.. yet they are applauding her efforts as 'brave'.. I forgot her name though.

Weren't you the person who brough Daniel Pipes up? I don't think he is. I think the Western media is much happier with a friend of Muslims like John Esposito than someone like Pipes. Clearly Pipes is not given as much media attention as Esposito. Hirsi Ali I assume. She is likely to be kill for what she wrote or at least live the rest of her life in protective custody. I think that is brave. She is not a scholar but she used to be a Muslim woman and clearly she has things to say about being a Muslim woman.

Why am I very wrong? I agree the BJP is not nice and they justify bad things. But they do not blow people up on the London Underground.

Well the BJP aren't fools to blow people up and get a nation wide condemnation, instead they massacre muslims with swords.. have you heard of the Babri masjid demolition?

I remember the Babri Mosque demolition. The Hindus reclaimed one of their religious sites. What is wrong with that? There have been riots where Muslims have been massacred but I do not think he BJP has planned it. They just do not punish it. As I said, bad people.

But what else are Muslims doing? Where are the good news stories? Where are the Muslims building hospitals or schools?

You'll never find them on BBC or CNN, i can assure you that.

I don't see them on Al-Jazeera either. Where are the good news stories?

France only bans them in schools and the police have to raid suspected terrorist houses. What is wrong with that? The problem is the lack of sensitivity in return - why are you and other Muslims complaining about the Forest Gate raids? Why aren't you supportive?

Two different topics, but in no way are they justifiable. I'm not supportive of either, because for the first one.. those oppressors are violating the right to pratise religion. As for the second one, they are not breaking down, house doors of terrorists, but of innocent muslims, who came to the UK purely for academic work.

I have problems with France's ban so I won't try to justify that. But the house raid was entirely justifiable. They had information that there was a terrorist plot there. They raided. Justly. If the police do not have good information it is because the Muslim community as a whole, which contains the only people who might have good information, has been less than 100 percent supportive. The police make mistakes. We all know that. What everyone needs to do is support the police and help them in their work. The leaders of the British Muslim communities have not done this but have tried to impede their work at every stage. Apart from releasing nice press releases. Which Muslims have they raided who have just come here for academic work?

 

[Asyur an-Nagi]

israel? they spit on our face and tell us that it's raining.

 

[S_87]

Who's the "spoilt brat"??

israel of course

 

[Geronimo]

not justfying his actions, but does anybody remeber the gi that made a song about killing innocent iraqis and using them as a practice target.

Have you heard the song? That's not what the song is about. Stop falsely misleading people.