Jesus is unique above all!!

[Caller الداعي]

55. And (remember) when Allah said: "O 'Iesa (Jesus)! I will take you and raise you to Myself and clear you [of the forged statement that 'Iesa (Jesus) is Allah's son] of those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you (Monotheists, who worship none but Allah) superior to those who disbelieve [in the Oneness of Allah, or disbelieve in some of His Messengers, e.g. Muhammad , 'Iesa (Jesus), Musa (Moses), etc., or in His Holy Books, e.g. the Taurat (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel), the Qur'an] till the Day of Resurrection. Then you will return to Me and I will judge between you in the matters in which you used to dispute."

56. "As to those who disbelieve, I will punish them with a severe torment in this world and in the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers."

57. And as for those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah) and do righteous good deeds, Allah will pay them their reward in full. And Allah does not like the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers).

58. This is what We recite to you (O Muhammad ) of the Verses and the Wise Reminder (i.e. the Qur'an).

59. Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was.

60. (This is) the truth from your Lord, so be not of those who doubt.

61. Then whoever disputes with you concerning him ['Iesa (Jesus)] after (all this) knowledge that has come to you, [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus)] being a slave of Allah, and having no share in Divinity) say: (O Muhammad ) "Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves - then we pray and invoke (sincerely) the Curse of Allah upon those who lie."

62. Verily! This is the true narrative [about the story of 'Iesa (Jesus)], and, La ilaha ill-Allah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah, the One and the Only True God, Who has neither a wife nor a son). And indeed, Allah is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

63. And if they turn away (and do not accept these true proofs and evidences), then surely, Allah is All-Aware of those who do mischief.

64. Say (O Muhammad ): "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians): Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah. Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims."

 

[glo]

Do we all agree then with Followers original statement that there is indeed "no other or has there ever been a man on the face of the earth like Jesus"?
Except for those who don't believe that Jesus ever existed, all others would have to agree ... wouldn't they?

Now, we can turn this thread into a heated debate on whether Muhammed or Jesus is the greater, whether Christianity or Islam is truer ... or we can just run with Follower's original statement and rejoice in how much we all respect and love Jesus.

Does anybody have a problem with that?

Peace

 

[Caller الداعي]

252. These are the Verses of Allah, We recite them to you (O Muhammad ) in truth, and surely, you are one of the Messengers (of Allah).

253. Those Messengers! We preferred some to others; to some of them Allah spoke (directly); others He raised to degrees (of honour); and to 'Iesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), We gave clear proofs and evidences, and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus [Jibrael (Gabriel)]. If Allah had willed, succeeding generations would not have fought against each other, after clear Verses of Allah had come to them, but they differed - some of them believed and others disbelieved. If Allah had willed, they would not have fought against one another, but Allah does what He likes.




Volume 4, Book 55, Number 627:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "None should say that I am better than Yunus bin Matta."

 

[Danah]

I agree with your position on Hart's ranking. I don't really believe that the ranking carries any weight. However, I have to point out that this is an incorrect understanding of the verse sister because Allaah says elsewhere in the same surah: "Those messengers - some of them We caused to exceed others. Among them were those to whom Allah spoke, and He raised some of them in degree." Some Messengers are in higher ranks than others, such as the Messengers of great determination (ulul 'azam) as mentioned by Allaah in the last verse of Surah al-Ahqaf. The verse you quoted refers to those people that believe in some Messengers and disbelieve in others thus causing a distinction between them as Allaah says in surah an-Nisa: "Indeed, those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers and wish to discriminate between Allah and His messengers and say, "We believe in some and disbelieve in others," and wish to adopt a way in between -" Not making a distinction between them refers to believing in all the Prophets and Messengers from Adam (alayhis salam) to the final Messenger Muhammad (salalahu 'alayhi wa sallam) as Allaah says two ayaat later in the same surah: "But they who believe in Allah and His messengers and do not discriminate between any of them..". Hope that clears this up.

jazak allah khair for ur explanation, but can u clarify this to me please?
as u said that Allah gave or granted each messanger with a specific trait so they are in different ranks. But for us as followers, can we consider that ranking as well? for us they are all deliver the same message, each one of them was given a miracle according to the era they have been sent in.

in other way, the messangers of great determination (ulul 'azam) (Noah, Ibrahim, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed) were different than the others because they faced the most hard difficulties when they called people to the message. The ranking is from Allah in tasks and miracles, but to us followers is this mean that some of them are better than the others?

I hope you got what I meant...

 

[Whatsthepoint]

He did seem a good fella.
As for who's the greatest person in history, I think it's Confucious.

 

[Keltoi]

Mark 13. Many of the parables also are clearly threats. They characterize God as a slaveowner and humans as slaves, who had better be good, obedient slaves or the slaveowner will torture them and/or kill them when he gets back.

I suppose as a Christian I view the verses in Mark quite differently. I'm not threatened by it in the least. It contains one of my favorite parables:

34
It is like a man traveling abroad. He leaves home and places his servants in charge, each with his work, and orders the gatekeeper to be on the watch.
35
Watch, therefore; you do not know when the lord of the house is coming, whether in the evening, or at midnight, or at cockcrow, or in the morning.
36
May he not come suddenly and find you sleeping.

 

[Qingu]

I suppose as a Christian I view the verses in Mark quite differently. I'm not threatened by it in the least. It contains one of my favorite parables:

34
It is like a man traveling abroad. He leaves home and places his servants in charge, each with his work, and orders the gatekeeper to be on the watch.
35
Watch, therefore; you do not know when the lord of the house is coming, whether in the evening, or at midnight, or at cockcrow, or in the morning.
36
May he not come suddenly and find you sleeping.

You're not threatened because you follow Jesus, so the parable-lord won't kill you in your sleep.

Point being, if you don't follow Jesus, you will be killed in your sleep.

What a wonderful way to get people to follow your ideology. Again, this is why I'm no fan of Jesus.

 

[AntiKarateKid]

You're not threatened because you follow Jesus, so the parable-lord won't kill you in your sleep.

Point being, if you don't follow Jesus, you will be killed in your sleep.

What a wonderful way to get people to follow your ideology. Again, this is why I'm no fan of Jesus.

Get over it. God has power over you, if He was as "cruel" as you make Him out to be, you would have been struck by lightening for your self-professed atheism.

Instead you are allowed to live and breath another day, be exposed to Islam, and have the chance to change your ways.

 

[Qingu]

Get over it. God has power over you, if He was as "cruel" as you make Him out to be, you would have been struck by lightening for your self-professed atheism.

Instead you are allowed to live and breath another day, be exposed to Islam, and have the chance to change your ways.

Similarly, you still have the chance to give me $1000. Space Emperor Zargon hasn't come to abduct you in the middle of the night and torture you yet.

Should I PM you may Paypal account?

 

[Muezzin]

There is no other or has there ever been a man on the face of the earth like Jesus.

Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers
[1:285]

I suppose we can leave it at that. The rate things are going, this thread will turn very hostile, very fast. So I'm closing it.

If you disagree, simply PM myself or another mod.